Re: reactionary conservatives

[Guest guest]

reactionary conservatives

says:

>>I'd wager that many a reactionary conservative would

like to return to the Rule of Thumb to keep women from

appealing to

the new way of Lysistrata - divorce.<<

--I don't think that's fair to reactionary

conservatives. They don't want to beat women. They

want to reassure themselves that they are men.

N: Is that wry humor, ? I hadn't supposed that rc s 'wanted to' beat

women for just the sake of it, but as a means to the end of 'feeling like

men'. It's their definition of 'manhood' I believe to be the flaw.

I'm a product to a degree of my own experience. When my European ex

struck me in the breast with his fist when pregnant and the next day

justified it by saying " It shut you up didn't it? " . . . shall we say, it

made an indelible impression.

I feel that many rc s believes are of similar ilk such as the death

penalty.

M: There

is, however, an instrument called " The Rod " that was

being sold a while back for " child discipline " . It was

similar to fetish gear used in bondage, a little

flexible whip. I'm not sure if people managed to get

the company to stop selling it or not. Not sure what

percentage of conservatives approve of that kind of

thing.

N: There was a church here in Georgia (Atlanta) last year where children

were regularly beaten. Kids from very you to those in their mid teens were

not exempt.

http://www.corpun.com/usd00103.htm

When the end justifies the means humanitarian treatment tends to

disappear.

Bush ordered the attack on Alfganistan with its 'collateral damage' to

innocents when emotions were running high in the US because of 9/11 despite

the fact that Alfganistan, the country, hadn't attacked the US or its

allies. Generally speaking 'wars' are between countries, not over the

behavior of factions.

With the shifting of the Supreme Court women are now in danger of

losing control over their own bodies. The chances of joining the rest of

the civilized world in banning capital punishment - even for the mentally

deficient - is also greatly reduced.

There is also another side to this discussion when extreme liberals

rule. Take the example of Sweden who outlawed corporal punishment in 1979

before seeing to it that alternate methods, education and understanding were

in place. The immediate result was a huge increase in both child abuse and

serious child misbehavior.

Changes urged by either side need to be implemented only after careful

study. One might say that this is the virture of the two party system and

of checks and balances.

Blessings,