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>The sun must die in order to be born again. The seed must fall into the earth and die in order for new crop to grow. It is an archetype which have been central to people's worldview in the greater part of our history. Today, we won't allow room for this central insight of matriarchal culture.

Yes I agree with all this. This is very much alchemy, out of the Mortification is generated the resurrection.

> It was Sabina Spielrein (Keira Knightkey) who wrote the essay "Destruction as cause of being" ("Die Destruktion als Ursache des Werdens.")

Her passion on this idea is very well portrayed in the movie. The allegory of the destruction of the man Jesus who was broken

and destroyed to resurrect as a man god and Christ is saying much the same. Mythras kills the bull (so full of the life force, will and ego)

shedding his blood that spills on to the earth and giving it life is almost the same allegory as that of the Christian sacrifice of the old man.

Sabina Spielrein's enjoyment and excitement of being whiped in her bottom by a father figure was explained as being the same thing for

her, as the destruction of the ego as a humiliation that gave rise to a renewed self. This part I found strange, but I guess there are people

who would feel this after a beating. It was a fettish with her as Jung had often beaten her with his belt upon her request. It was as a

therapy for her.

Best,

Steve

Re: Could someone recommend book?

I haven't seen this film. I think I will order it, although I have little interest in Jung's life. It was Sabina Spielrein (Keira Knightkey) who wrote the essay "Destruction as cause of being" ("Die Destruktion als Ursache des Werdens.") (1912). It is an age-old tenet belonging to matriarchal culture. It is necessary to make sacrifice for new life to emerge, and for the world to continue. It amounts to a circular view of existence. The sun must die in order to be born again. The seed must fall into the earth and die in order for new crop to grow. It is an archetype which have been central to people's worldview in the greater part of our history. Today, we won't allow room for this central insight of matriarchal culture. My Thanatos argument builds on this fact. Since we repress Thanatos, it takes pathological expression, like the shooting at Denver, and a general nastiness in the population. Modern people always show a readiness for bullying, and readily cast suspicion on people.Mats> > >> > > I would like to read about Jung's life when he broke with Freud. I'm interested in the spiritual crisis he went through and what he did to help himself resolve it. Can someone recommend a book?> > > Thank you,> > > Bonnie> > >> > > > If you want to get an objective account of it, you should, I suppose, read several books. Deirdre Bair's "Jung" is the most thorough biography, to date. Jung said that taking patients was essential to him during this period. It helped him to get a stabile focus in life. But I don't remember how long she dwells at this. I only skimmed through it.> > > > Mats> >> > > > ------------------------------------> > "Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and suffering."> > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama> > >