Could someone recommend book?

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Hi Mats,

What a synchronicity!

Just now ended the movie "A Dangerous Method" on TV

dramatizing the turbulent relationship between Jung and Freud.

I enjoyed this movie.

"Memoirs, Dreams and Reflections" as a biography is an excellent book on

the life of Jung.

Steve

Re: Could someone recommend book?

By the way, it wasn't Jung who broke with Freud, it was the reverse. Freud broke with many people. He could not accept even the slightest deviation. People around him showed a striking tendency to die, especially by suicide. Herbert Silberer wrote a book on alchemy (this was before Jung adopted the subject). http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/27755But Silberer showed a slight deviation towards Jung's views. That was enough for Freud and Silberer was ostracised. He hung himself and arranged a lamp so that his wife could see him through the window before she entered the house.Jung, who suffered a tremendous crisis when he was ostracised, managed to survive (unlike many others). Truth is that he came into contact with Freud only after he had established himself as a theorist. He had already written important works on schizophrenia and the feeling toned complexes (his studies in word association). So, unlike Adler, he was never Freud's pupil. He was already an independent theorist and the basis of his life-work was already in outline. However, Freud could never accept that Jung had ideas of his own.Mats> >> > I would like to read about Jung's life when he broke with Freud. I'm interested in the spiritual crisis he went through and what he did to help himself resolve it. Can someone recommend a book?> > Thank you,> > Bonnie> >> > If you want to get an objective account of it, you should, I suppose, read several books. Deirdre Bair's "Jung" is the most thorough biography, to date. Jung said that taking patients was essential to him during this period. It helped him to get a stabile focus in life. But I don't remember how long she dwells at this. I only skimmed through it.> > Mats>------------------------------------"Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and suffering."H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama

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I haven't seen this film. I think I will order it, although I have little

interest in Jung's life. It was Sabina Spielrein (Keira Knightkey) who wrote

the essay " Destruction as cause of being " ( " Die Destruktion als Ursache des

Werdens. " ) (1912). It is an age-old tenet belonging to matriarchal culture. It

is necessary to make sacrifice for new life to emerge, and for the world to

continue. It amounts to a circular view of existence. The sun must die in order

to be born again. The seed must fall into the earth and die in order for new

crop to grow. It is an archetype which have been central to people's worldview

in the greater part of our history. Today, we won't allow room for this central

insight of matriarchal culture. My Thanatos argument builds on this fact. Since

we repress Thanatos, it takes pathological expression, like the shooting at

Denver, and a general nastiness in the population. Modern people always show a

readiness for bullying, and readily cast suspicion on people.

Mats

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interested in the spiritual crisis he went through and what he did to help

himself resolve it. Can someone recommend a book?

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> > If you want to get an objective account of it, you should, I suppose, read

several books. Deirdre Bair's " Jung " is the most thorough biography, to date.

Jung said that taking patients was essential to him during this period. It

helped him to get a stabile focus in life. But I don't remember how long she

dwells at this. I only skimmed through it.

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> " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby beings

may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and suffering. "

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