Blown away

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aoh & Dan, Thanks for the replies. I can always count on Dan for a reply on anything dealing with music, short though they are. And, I'll give you a short bio shortly, but first, I need to discuss what I read in the Red Book yesterday. I was so blown away I need some feedback as to whether or not I'm over reacting. It's the chapter called Death on page 273. It starts out like many other chapters, like a parable, but by the end it's pure stream of consciousness. I re-read the last three paragraphs six or seven times. They start out as if he's talking about the repression of the shadow only to have it arise within one's conscious reality in some form or other, but then the piece seems to transform into an actual

description of what happens when you physically die: "For if the wretchedness and poverty of this life ends, another life begins in what is opposed to me. This is opposed to such an extent that I cannot conceive it. For it is opposed not according to the laws of reason, but thoroughly and according to its own nature. Yes it is not only opposed, but replusive, invisibly and cruely repulsive, something that takes my breath away, that drains the power from my muscles, that confuses my senses, stings me poisonously from behind in the heel, and always strikes just where I did not suspect I possessed a vulnerable spot." It sounds as if he is describing how a new born enters the world. In the next paragraph: "For three nights I was assaulted by the horrors of birth." Even though this "opposed" life can't be conceived by reason, I seem

to sense that this is true. It would explain how the memory is entirely erased if the new world you enter is not only completely ailian, offering zero references which could stir a rememberance, but is at the same time keeping you so occupied in fending off its assault, there's no reprive in which to ponder what just happened to you. Many who believe in reincarnation believe you return immediately to this world in some form or another, but, if you do return to this world, according to this theory, it wouldn't be until after you've spent a lifetime in a world completely opposed to this one. When you die in that world, then this world could once again be the one that is opposed to that one. Am I reading too much into this? Did Jung, in a sense, come back from death to tell us what happens? I've experience ego death on pyschodellics, but this is different. thawstone