Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Hi Brande, Are you bracing purely for the spasticity or for weakness and stability as well? If you are wanting to brace purely for spasticity is may not work as well because if you brace otherwise stable joints, you really will only restrict your movement. Also it would be worth it to really discuss this with your PT or Orthotist because if your spasticity is bad enough, you will be constantly fighting the braces and have to worry about sore legs and skin issues. Brande wrote: I was wondering if anybody here has tried any Bracing for their Spasticity/Spasms? How did it work? The thought of it entered my mind, so I am looking for information. What I am seeing is that there are Braces for the Knee for Spasticity...........however, mine are in my entire leg(s), including the Buttocks. So, how does that work? How does it stop the Spasms? How does this all work with Tethered Cord, especially active Tethered Cord (meaning still there, still tries to cause problems). I am kind of thinking that if I tried this, it would be more like beating a dead Horse, counterproductive. In a way, it is kind of tricky trying to figure out if this type of Bracing is for Spasticity, or Spasms, as they are 2 different things, yet easily interchanged. I have both. I don't really have any other Bracing needs, just looking for info in regards to Spasticity. Brande mymocha@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Brande, Sorry for the slow response. I've been setting up a new computer (way too time consuming) and running my poor kitty to kitty-ICU for the second time in less than a week. I have KAFOs. I can't remember if you are a FT w/c user or not, but while I can " walk " with KAFOs, they are not especially efficient as a means of transportation. Since I am a T12 para, they do allow me to stand and walk on a treadmill for about 20-40 min. What that helps with is preventing my osteopenia from progressing and helps with the tightness caused by my spasms. It also allows me to get some " real " exercise (most arm bikes don't really let me get my HR up high enough - walking with KAFOs on a treadmill sure does and I sweat like a little piggy). I have not really heard of using braces (HKFO, KAFO or AFO) for spasms, specifically. For example, I started with AFOs between my 2nd and 3rd surgeries. I had developed drop foot and spasms. The AFOs (along with forearm crutches) allowed me to continue walking by supporting my drop feet and keeping my spasms from throwing my feet in some contorted position that would make me trip. It just kept them at a fixed 90 degree angle. Since my paralysis, I was fitted with KAFOs. As I mentioned, while I can walk with them (if you want to call it that), it is a very inefficient mode of transportation and not very practical, nor safe. I have to hold myself up constantly, so I can't cook or carry anything b/c my hands are occupied by holding myself upright. It is like I have 2 separate bodies, divided at T12. The KAFOs hold my legs straight so I can move them to walk (I have some movement and sensation below T12), but its like there is a major disconnect at T12, so I just don't have the strength to hold myself upright. That is the best explanation I can give of the experience. Difficult to explain if you haven't felt it yourself. But as far as using the KAFOs with regard to my spasms - they certainly don't prevent them. When I was a good girl and walking 2-3 times a week, I felt like my spasms improved a bit. But since I have been off my regimen (and I just finished standing for about 2 hrs), they are by FAR worse. The reason is that spasms can cause your muscles to become tight (and eventually develop contractures) if they are not stretched out. So, if you are not standing, it can be particularly hard to stretch out your heels/ankles, in particular (those are the muscles that I find very difficult to get an adequate stretch on my own. I just do not have the leverage to pull them enough and against my spasms. And I can't pay a therapist to do it for me forever. Back to spasms and tightness. Since I have been in the chair and not very consistent with using my KAFOs, my ankles are very tight. My left ankle will not go to the neurtral position anymore. Well, it will if you really force it (which takes a strong therapist). Sitting in a chair with the footplate placed such that you get dorsiflexion will help, but it is not the same as when you are standing and can use your body weight to stretch your ankles. Also, my left knee will not fully straighten (we had it there when I quit therapy in Nov), but after these 2 months of no standing, has returned to where it was before I went to therapy from June to Nov last year. The problem was that I developed a very nasty UTI that took 3 courses of antibiotics to fix and I have a hard enough time staying dry with a UTI, let alone when I am vertical and have the aid of gravity. So, now I'm getting back to it, but I have to start all over --- standing and getting that back before I can start walking again. So, while I've never heard of bracing used for spasticity specifically (not that it can't be done, I've just not heard of it), I think it can help prevent the effects from spasticity (does that make sense at all??) I was referred by my physiatrist to an orthotist, who fitted me with my braces. They cast your legs and then make plastic braces with metal " skeletons. " But, there are better, lighter KAFOs that are made of carbon fiber that I am going to try to replace my old ones with. My old AFOs were carbon fiber ones and they were great. The plastic kind are not very practical for everyday use (as far as for walking). They are heavy and very HOT. Not to mention they contort any flab on your legs to make your legs look very funky. Its not very practical to wear them under your clothes b/c you really need some kind of cloth between you and the KAFO (I know not everyone does this), but they make my legs sweat so badly (how can your skin breathe with thick plastic covering it?). So, without either pants or a stockingette under them (which would make you really hot in the summer to wear the two layers), it is just difficult. The carbon fiber ones are make by a company called " Walk On. " Their AFOs were awesome. I hope this gives you so me info that is helpful. If you want anymore info about me and my KAFOs, feel free to ask onlist or off. Jenn From: tetheredspinalcord [mailto:tetheredspinalcord ] On Behalf Of Brande Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:44 AM To: tetheredspinalcord Subject: Bracing for Spasticity/Spasms I was wondering if anybody here has tried any Bracing for their Spasticity/Spasms? How did it work? The thought of it entered my mind, so I am looking for information. What I am seeing is that there are Braces for the Knee for Spasticity...........however, mine are in my entire leg(s), including the Buttocks. So, how does that work? How does it stop the Spasms? How does this all work with Tethered Cord, especially active Tethered Cord (meaning still there, still tries to cause problems). I am kind of thinking that if I tried this, it would be more like beating a dead Horse, counterproductive. In a way, it is kind of tricky trying to figure out if this type of Bracing is for Spasticity, or Spasms, as they are 2 different things, yet easily interchanged. I have both. I don't really have any other Bracing needs, just looking for info in regards to Spasticity. Brande mymocha@... <mailto:mymocha%40charter.net> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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