Re: Mycotoxins and organ donation

[Guest guest]

Interestingly my internet security software, Trend Micro, put up a sign on site

when I went there that says " This website has been identified as Dangerous "

I've never seen that before. Never the less I looked it over and only saw one

office in Norcross, GA. Is that the one you are referring to KC?

>

> I never have heard of this center. It's not to far away and if I get a chance

in the near future I will ride down and check them out. They don't seem to have

much info on there web site, or a list of physicians. Not even an address, just

Norcross. That is a big area.

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> KC

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[Guest guest]

Alpha Lipoic Acid. I think it's supposed to deactivate toxins in the body

rather than pull them out, but I'm not sure but it is advised for toxic

exposure. I tried it years ago but got a rash, but had trouble with CSM also at

that time. I haven't tried it again but forget what it is supposed to do

exactly.

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> What is ALA? You can take most meds with CSM but wait for at least an hr to

> eat & . before taking the CSM.

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[Guest guest]

If you are taking CSM with meds, doesn't it absorb them, too, and rob you of

nutrients while it takes out whatever it is supposed to take out?

I use Welchol and take it with food, not meds.

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> What is ALA? You can take most meds with CSM but wait for at least an hr to

> eat & . before taking the CSM.

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> Does anyone know if you can take ALA with CSM??

> Thanks D. I have had my amalgams taken out.

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[Guest guest]

Barb,

I have heard that Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) can protect against, or

reverse, the adverse health effects of mycotoxins.

The Pubmed Abstract about ALA and mycotoxins:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259433?ordinalpos=4 & itool=EntrezSys\

tem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed\

_RVDocSum

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259433?ordinalpos=4 & itool=EntrezSy\

stem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubme\

d_RVDocSum>

Some more about this:

http://tinyurl.com/ks5vqc <http://tinyurl.com/ks5vqc>

And and as long as you take the ALA a few hours before or after taking

the CSM then I would think that taking the ALA would be OK.

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> > > Jeri, What dose and brand of ALA did your husband take that helped

him so much?

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[Guest guest]

I think if you take it far enough from foods/fats, you are okay. I thought

Welchol had a similar but milder effect to CSM. Are the directions to take it

with food? I'd like to try Welchol, but it was so hard to talk my doctor into

the CSM, that it wore me out and I don't care to revisit the topic for awhile.

>

> If you are taking CSM with meds, doesn't it absorb them, too, and rob you of

nutrients while it takes out whatever it is supposed to take out?

>

> I use Welchol and take it with food, not meds.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I've never quit figured out how to use PubMed. Are links to a one

paragraph 'abstract'?, or is there somewhere a longer article.

I think SA is Sherry who has written alot about subject and wrote

a respected book on detoxing.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_0_9?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks & field-key\

words=sherry+rogers & sprefix=Sherry+Ro

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> Barb,

>

> I have heard that Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) can protect against, or

> reverse, the adverse health effects of mycotoxins.

>

>

> The Pubmed Abstract about ALA and mycotoxins:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259433?ordinalpos=4 & itool=EntrezSys\

> tem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed\

> _RVDocSum

[Guest guest]

Find the info on Welchol. It also reduces cholesterol (its purpose) and blood

sugar. This can help with the A1C level. I tried the other and found I was

choking with it. This is much more tolerable and you can take it when you are

out at a restaurant or whatever.

Much more " user-friendly. " Your doc is there to work for you.

>

> I think if you take it far enough from foods/fats, you are okay. I thought

Welchol had a similar but milder effect to CSM. Are the directions to take it

with food? I'd like to try Welchol, but it was so hard to talk my doctor into

the CSM, that it wore me out and I don't care to revisit the topic for awhile.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I believe Dr. Lieberman uses Alpha Lipoic. In fact, I am pretty sure that I was

given it in IV form when I went through his detoxification program recently.

K.

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> Barb,

>

> I have heard that Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) can protect against, or

> reverse, the adverse health effects of mycotoxins.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Diane are there any other caveats about the ALA iv? I just heard from a friend

whose husband has heart trouble and is thinking of doing it.

Thanks,

Sam

---I just thought I would add that it is not advised that you take ALA in

IV or oral if you have any amalgam fillings in your teeth. This was told to me

by my doctor in Boston. D

[Guest guest]

-I have been taking ALA IV's-it is a drip-takes about an hr and a half for

600mg-for almost a year. It removed the very last symptoms of mold exposure I

had-chronic fatigue, food reactivity, lymph clogging. But it cannot cure the

sicker-quicker, which is what I wanted. So I am sick again since feb from

another exposure-feeling better now. It is a gene expression modifyer, among

other things-it turns all your cells aerobic, and can rejjuvenate all organs.

Read-the Alpha Lopeic Acid Breakthrough by Dr Berkson. He has never said you

can't have it if you have amalgams. It is the best way to chealate heavy metals

also. He perscribes it orally, along with many pharmasuitical grade vitamins,

but says with the oral type-it is metabolized by the liver and is not available

to heal organs and other good stuff.

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- In , " barb1283 " <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Alpha Lipoic Acid. I think it's supposed to deactivate toxins in the body

rather than pull them out, but I'm not sure but it is advised for toxic

exposure. I tried it years ago but got a rash, but had trouble with CSM also at

that time. I haven't tried it again but forget what it is supposed to do

exactly.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

PubMed usually just list the abstracts of articles. But you can access

the entire article on the link bellow. You have to pay a fee to access

the entire article though.

http://tinyurl.com/ks5vqc <http://tinyurl.com/ks5vqc>

And yes, Dr. Sherry is the author of that article.

>

> Thanks. I've never quit figured out how to use PubMed. Are links to a

one paragraph 'abstract'?, or is there somewhere a longer article.

> I think SA is Sherry who has written alot about subject

and wrote a respected book on detoxing.

>

[Guest guest]

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Sam: I was just given the information about he amalgams. I guess s doctor

does not agree. What they told me was that the ALA leaches mercury from the

amalgams and if you are not detoxing well the mercury will build up. It makes

sense to me. The hardest thing about this condition is that you will not get

two doctors to agree on anything. D

In , Sam <yaddayadda53@...> wrote:

>

> Diane are there any other caveats about the ALA iv? I just heard from a friend

whose husband has heart trouble and is thinking of doing it.

> Thanks,

> Sam

>

>

> ---I just thought I would add that it is not advised that you take ALA

in IV or oral if you have any amalgam fillings in your teeth. This was told to

me by my doctor in Boston. D

>

[Guest guest]

My Dr says that ALA is the best chelatpr of Mercury and other heavy metals,

therefor it would not build up. He has an IV room filled with happy being cured

or already cured people to prove it.

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> ---

> Sam: I was just given the information about he amalgams. I guess s doctor

does not agree. What they told me was that the ALA leaches mercury from the

amalgams and if you are not detoxing well the mercury will build up. It makes

sense to me. The hardest thing about this condition is that you will not get

two doctors to agree on anything. D

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Diane,

I seem to remember the same thing was said about not doing hydrogen peroxide

iv's if you had amalgum fillings. It is hard to know when different credible

docs have totally different pov on something.

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, dianebolton52 <dianebolton@...> wrot

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Sam: I was just given the information about he amalgams. I guess s doctor

does not agree. What they told me was that the ALA leaches mercury from the

amalgams and if you are not detoxing well the mercury will build up. It makes

sense to me. The hardest thing about this condition is that you will not get

two doctors to agree on anything. D

[Guest guest]

where do you get your ALA?  is it expensive>?

v.

Hi Jeri,

Welcome to the group! A sick building can cause a host of illnesses. I have

studied up on Dr Lieberman and he seems like an excellent doctor. He is located

in ton, SC. Here is his website:

http://www.coem. com/

I sure hope your husband can get on a way to recovery soon.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

, I wasn't sure who this question was directed to...

We currently purchase at Walgreen's the Natura's Bounty L-Carnitine 400 mg

with Alpha Lipoic Acid 200 mg. I watch for the buy 1 get 1 free deals at

Walgreens. However, I'm considering purchasing it through Nutrabulk when I

place our next order for d-ribose.

http://www.nutrabulk.com/index.php?_a=viewProd & productId=21

If you are wondering what d-ribose is, look at my review here:

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http://www.amazon.com/NutraBulk-D-Ribose-Powder-ONE-KILOGRAM/dp/B0011G6HCM/ref=s\

r_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1246244460

>

I initially purchased it through Amazon (prime member = free shipping) but

once I discovered the NB website I found it was cheaper to order directly

from them. It's by far the best price I've evern found for d-ribose.

Jeri

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Frohna <vafrohna@...> wrote:

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> where do you get your ALA? is it expensive>?

> v.

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[Guest guest]

With all due respect to drug stores, Dr Berkson and other Drs who cure people of

ailments like sbs or lupus,or liver failure, only allow pharmaceutical grade

vitamins they say the cheap brands have nothing in them.-Metabolic Maintenance

ALA-300mg-3x a day-with meals. Make sure you get a lot of B's while taking

ALA-Pharm grade of course.

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> > where do you get your ALA? is it expensive>?

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[Guest guest]

thanks, Jeri--it was for whoever had the answer, LOL!

v.

, I wasn't sure who this question was directed to...

We currently purchase at Walgreen's the Natura's Bounty L-Carnitine 400 mg

with Alpha Lipoic Acid 200 mg. I watch for the buy 1 get 1 free deals at

Walgreens. However, I'm considering purchasing it through Nutrabulk when I

place our next order for d-ribose.

http://www.nutrabul k.com/index. php?_a=viewProd & productId= 21

[Guest guest]

thanks, karen.

me

ALA

With all due respect to drug stores, Dr Berkson and other Drs who cure people of

ailments like sbs or lupus,or liver failure, only allow pharmaceutical grade

vitamins they say the cheap brands have nothing in them.-Metabolic Maintenance

ALA-300mg-3x a day-with meals. Make sure you get a lot of B's while taking

ALA-Pharm grade of course.