Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I had many bad experiences with doctors not treating me or willing to even make any follow appointments. I had come full circle with Physiatrists, OPT, PT, Neurologists, Podiatrists, Orthotics, Pain Management, etc. All kept passing me along to others and as a last resort I took this groups advice and made an appointment with the MDA. Today was seen by the MDA doctor accompanied by a physical therapist and occupational therapist. After 5 minutes he determined that I was not able to be helped by them and I was " as good as it gets " . I asked if there was something I can do. I am walking around with a straight cane which I think maybe the wrong cane but no doctor including the MDA would prescribe me a cane or show me how to use it correctly. Basically I was told they were not going to help me even though I have an advanced case of CMT and I am falling alot and in a lot of pain. I am at a loss, everyone is afraid of liability and treat me like a hot potato. I am so frustrated and give up all hope. I am looking on going over seas where they have better care for people like us. Because we are such a litigious country we are treated as liabilites. I guess I am just venting and sorry for seeming so negative. I do thank everyone who had offered support and given me suggestions. Thanks Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Andy, If that's what the doctors say, then it looks like that's As Good As It Gets with Doctors and its time to move on by yourself. I recommend to do lots and lots of research. I haven't read all the issues you have with CMT, but the archives have a lot of recommendations for whatever (pain or other) issue you have. Do online research, read as much as you can and decide what is best for you. Its called Mind Over Matter. Good Luck. Debbie from MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Andy, That MDA clinic should be ashamed! And don't accept mediocracy. If you are falling so much and in need of help, before you go out of the US, go see Dr. Shy at Wayne State in Detroit. He is a CMT expert. http://www.med.wayne.edu/Neurology/faculty_staff/shy.asp Phone: (313) 577-1689 To make an appointment http://www.med.wayne.edu/neurology/clin_programs/Labs/CMT/MakeAppointment.htm He will help you and can evaluate your needs regarding the cane, shoes, leg bracing, a scooter, or other. Also ask him about supplements, like Vitamin C, Citicoline, Creatine, ALA, Co Enzyme CQ 10 and Whey protein. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Andy, I'm sorry that you didn't get what you needed from the MDA doctors. Sometimes I think doctors dismiss us when they see there is no cure. They look at the big picture, realize there no cure, and send us away. It's really up to us as an individual to tell them specifically what we are looking for in the way of assistance, so they know how to help us. For example, when it comes to physical therapy, this is prescribed for a specific need when there is a chance of improvement. It's not used, in general, for CMT, since exericise can't bring back atrophied CMT muscles. However, if you say, " I'd like to have a few visits with a therapist who can help me learn how to safely stretch my achilles tendons, build up my core/thigh strength or help with my balance issues " , then you are much more likely to get what you need. It may not seem fair, but you have to educate yourself on the things that may help you and then very specifically request them from your doctors. With pain management, it's the same thing. If you say, " I went to pain management and it didn't help " , then you aren't likely to get additional assistance. If you dismiss it, then they will dismiss it. If, however, you say, " I tried medications x,y & z and they didn't help, is there anything else that you can do to help me with this pain that is keeping me awake at night " , then you are much more likely to get the help you need. You can also ask about specific medications that others have tried with success. You have to be your own advocate. It's also really helpful to have a primary care doctor who you can trust, someone who cares about you. A good primary doctor should take the time to show you have to use your cane and/or order you a new one if you need it. It doesn't take a specialist for this. If you decide to go overseas, please share with us what you learn when you get back, ok? I'm so sorry for your disappointment. If there's something those of us on this site can do to help you, please post. I do wish you the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Andy: Go to Colombia Presbyterian Hospital in NYC. It is the top hospital for neurology in the North East. I never had any problems and I was diagnosed there too. I did all my rehab in Helen Hospital. They are all very supportive and helpful and definatly listen to you. I live in Connecticut now and the doctors are very good too. I go to Bridgeport Hospital but all hospitals in the Yale system are very good. Remember, do your research for the best doctors in your area, you just can't go to any hospital. Look for those that specialize in neurology. Good luck...but I'll know you'll find the right doctor for you. Marin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I want to thank everyone who responded to my post and those of you who offer support. I agree with what everyone has said. We have to be our own advocates and not expect a cure or a miracle treatment. We have a very debilitating disease with little available methods of treatment. I have never (until recently) let my disability make me I have overcome many obstacles, I graduated college, have a good career which takes up most of my time and a wonderful daughter who keeps me going. I think we need to stay as active as possible I truly believe it helps us mentally and phsyically. I do have to learn how to ask for what I need and I will take everyone's advice on how to talk to doctors so that they do not blow me off. I just want to not fall all the time and alleviate this pain that is all consuming at times. I am only 33 and feel like I am 90. It has taken a toll on me and I feel hopeless and helpless at times. I am mostly worried for my daughter who is only 9 and shows signs of the disease yet I have never had her tested. I am so afraid of ruining her spirits by having her live with a diagnosis that can't just be turned off or fixed. I appreciate this group a lot. I admit at times I am very critical and very skepticle about holistic therapy and all the research but I believe this is a disease that is multifacited and many people can do well with many different things. I am trying to be more positive and open minded. If I go overseAs I will keep everyone posted about how I made out. Thanks again for your support. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Andy, The MDA clinic here in Indianapolis was great to me & my son. We made an appointment on the same day, and they had 3 different Dr's. come in the room and examined our feet, our walk, the strength in our hands,feet & legs, and went over many different options they had for medications to help with pain. They have an Orthotists on site, that came in our room about 10 minutes after the Dr's. left and molded us both for AFOs. About a week later we went and picked them up. My son (who is much worse than I am), and had begun falling down an awful lot was in heaven when he felt the difference the AFOS made. He is so use to them now, he forgets he has them on. They told us to come back as often as we needed for adjustments, if after a few days or a few months we began to have sore spots, or any discomfort from the AFOs. MDA of Indy paid for all of this, and actually made us feel like they cared how progressive our CMT had become. Not all MDA clinics are the same apparently. Like Gretchen said...try another before you go out of the country. Donna in Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Andy....I have been going through the same thing ...for a long time. The MDA is nearly 2 12-3 hrs from me and I don't drive! I don't know what to do either! Would be nice to find a doc that gave a Rats A_____ Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Geri: Do you have any family members that can help you or close friends? Marin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Marin, The ride is so far to the MAD...I don't like going in the winter...but my friend will take me in the summer. Just so hard to get going when I have to be gone all day! Wish I could find a good doc close but so far I haven't found one that care to take the time understand me or CMT. Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Unfortunately I have no family around me. The only person in my family I am close to is my sister in Florida who just recently diagnosed with CMT. I have a few good friends that help me emotionally but I am not sure what else they could or would do. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Andy: I would call your local bureau of rehabiltation services. Someone can come to your home as your case manager and work with you for the services you need. There are many things they can assist you with. This is the time to use your social services in your town or city. It would be helpful for them to know if you have Medicaid or Medicare or social sercurity disability. They can help you in attaining or referring those too. Marin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 , Thank you for the information. I still work full time and have had no period of loss of work and only 33 so I do not think I would qualify for SSI/SSD, etc. I have great insurance since I work for the state and where I work is completely ADA accessible. Also since I have a college degree and had mostly office jobs will work against me too, so I was told. Even if did get it I would get more then half of what I make now and I barely get by as it is. Even though I have shared custody of my 9 year old daughter I pay a lot of child support for her. Also being single and having no family around makes it even harder. I will try to call the local bureau of rehabilitation services to see if they will take me. Like I said so far no one is willing to take me on as a patient so forgive me if I an skepticle. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Andy: You have to be your own advocate. You do qualify for SSD benefits if you work under a certain amount of time and how much income you make with the amount of months you work. A case worker can tell you more about that. It's your choice in the end. I use to be a case manager and a case manager's job is to find the assistance you need, no matter what. Don't worry, you have a disability, you are approved to have a case manager work for you. How do you get to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 , Funny thing is I was a case manager almost 8 years and used to help get people benefits too but that was 6 years ago and was in the mental health field exclusively, since then I have been working in the court systems. I work 50-60 hours week but salaried. I make short of 6 figures but I pay out a lot for my pension, my daughter, doctors, medicine, car payments (yes I drive), house payments etc... I would qualify for SSD if I make that much and work that many hours? Also I have never not worked full time. Also I doubt SSD would pay out even half of what I get from my salary and I do not want to struggle making ends meet. I am very good at my job but am falling a lot and the CMT is now effecting my hands. I agree we must be our own advocates and I have been up to this point so I would like for a person to case manage my care so I am not being sent all over the place where none interact with each other. The case manager of the MDA seemed very sweet but in the end I was seen 10 minutes and was told they could not help me and no recommendations were made for any PT or other proactive approaches. I don't know why in NJ with all these so called great hospitals there is no doctor willing to a least do more then evaluate and refer me out. Like I said earlier I can't even get a script for a cane or direction as to what type of cane to use or even how to use the one I have. It's very nice to talk to you and I appreciate you taking the time to offer support and suggestions. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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