Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Yes I've seen the latest info on Tylenol. I don't use it regularly, sometimes just take the benadryl. It's what's in that that makes you sleepy anyway, so no real need for the acetaminophen. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Hi Stacey, Tylenol depletes glutathione, which is needed to detoxify heavy metals, peticides and other things in the environment which are toxic to our kids. I have two boys with autism, the youngest is severely affected. He is the one I gave Tylenol to before and after shots, per his pediatricians recommendation. I now know that this is a factor in the severity of his condition. Giving babies Tylenol when given vaccines, as well as for pain from ear infections and teething, has been standard pediatric advice for the last 20 years - which many people (including me!) believe poured gasoline on the autism epidemic. My youngest son has tested as having genes that make him naturally be on the low side for glutathione. So giving him poisons in his vaccines, then giving him Tylenol which depletes his already low supply of glutathione, was a recipe for disaster. Sylvia > > I have been against giving my daughter this for teething, but her > molars have been very painful coming through for her. It has helped, > but I prefer the Hyland's teething tabs although at night Tylenol has > helped her keep asleep. > > Can anyone tell me what makes tylenol so toxic? I know it's excreted > through the liver, but does anyone have any other info? > > Thank you! > Stacey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I came across this article and thought I would share. It is a study linking the use of Tylenol or acteminophen giving to babies and Asthma. http://www.emedicinehealth.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=92779 Lorelei From: staceysarros <staceysarros@...> Subject: OT: Tylenol Vaccinations Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 5:50 PM I have been against giving my daughter this for teething, but her molars have been very painful coming through for her. It has helped, but I prefer the Hyland's teething tabs although at night Tylenol has helped her keep asleep. Can anyone tell me what makes tylenol so toxic? I know it's excreted through the liver, but does anyone have any other info? Thank you! Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 At 01:50 AM 9/20/2008, you wrote: >I have been against giving my daughter this for teething, but her >molars have been very painful coming through for her. It has helped, >but I prefer the Hyland's teething tabs although at night Tylenol has >helped her keep asleep. > >Can anyone tell me what makes tylenol so toxic? I know it's excreted >through the liver, but does anyone have any other info? > >Thank you! >Stacey I sent a whole lot of info yesterday The liver is already taxed trying to detox and then add additional stress on the liver from the Tylenol Also gluatathione is produced by the liver to help with detox and Tylenol depletes the glutathione The right remedy should take the pain away - if you figure out the one remedy that matches her best may have better luck with that and also giving it in water and increasing the potency a little each time with a process called succussion I've sent instructions on that yesterday. You should NOT ever need tylenol Sheri >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Exactly Sylvia And I can't prove this, but a friend of mine's son - in his early 30's - stayed home from work one day, not feeling well. He was found dead by his wife when she came home from work that afternoon. He was healthy, did drink a bit too much. I can't prove that he took tylenol.............but coroner could find no 'cause' for his death. I asked my friend, his mother, to check about the tylenol situation - never heard back from her on that. But I can bet you that that probably had something to do with it. Especially bad if liver impaired from alcohol use, also. We will never know Sheri At 03:04 AM 9/20/2008, you wrote: >Hi Stacey, > >Tylenol depletes glutathione, which is needed to detoxify heavy metals, >peticides and other things in the environment which are toxic to our >kids. > >I have two boys with autism, the youngest is severely affected. He is >the one I gave Tylenol to before and after shots, per his pediatricians >recommendation. I now know that this is a factor in the severity of his >condition. > >Giving babies Tylenol when given vaccines, as well as for pain from ear >infections and teething, has been standard pediatric advice for the >last 20 years - which many people (including me!) believe poured >gasoline on the autism epidemic. > >My youngest son has tested as having genes that make him naturally be >on the low side for glutathione. So giving him poisons in his vaccines, >then giving him Tylenol which depletes his already low supply of >glutathione, was a recipe for disaster. > >Sylvia > > > > > > I have been against giving my daughter this for teething, but her > > molars have been very painful coming through for her. It has helped, > > but I prefer the Hyland's teething tabs although at night Tylenol has > > helped her keep asleep. > > > > Can anyone tell me what makes tylenol so toxic? I know it's excreted > > through the liver, but does anyone have any other info? > > > > Thank you! > > Stacey > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I used to work in a hospital pharmacy. One of my first memories of working there was everyone talking about a woman who had just died of liver failure. This is back in 1989, when " drive through operations " was the new thing. Surgeries usually needing hospital stays, were now being treated as outpatient surgeries. Well this woman, in her 50's or early sixties had surgery for something and was sent home with instructions to take Tylenol " as needed " for pain. Well, all the pharmacist were talking about she should have been discharged with pain meds, but because during this time there was a big worry that everyone would turn into drug addicts when treated for pain, she was told to take Tylenol by the doctor. Well, she kept popping Tylenol, but ofcourse this did nothing for her very acute surgical pain she was experiencing. But Tylenol can be lethal in doses not terribly above recommended doses, and she indeed did die. Do you all remember the T.V. commercials not too long ago that featured the Tylenol executive saying that if you are not going to use their product correctly, then she rather you don't use their product at all? That ad campaign was in response to the many deaths reported every year from Tylenol. A lot of people don't realize that Tylenol (acetaminophen) is in a ton of over the product products, as well as in narcotic pain meds such as Vicodin and Percocet. Taking several of these products at the same time can cause an overdose that can cause liver damage or death. Sylvia > > > > > > I have been against giving my daughter this for teething, but her > > > molars have been very painful coming through for her. It has helped, > > > but I prefer the Hyland's teething tabs although at night Tylenol has > > > helped her keep asleep. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what makes tylenol so toxic? I know it's excreted > > > through the liver, but does anyone have any other info? > > > > > > Thank you! > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I heard about this and yes I've been aware of this for awhile. I take Tylenol 3 but only 3 or 4 a day. I do this to avoid having to take steroids. Today I went down to 5 mg. of hydrocortisone. I'm happy about that but if I don't manage my pain I end up having to take more hydrocortisone. I checked the mg. and each one is 30. I don't take anything else for pain. I'm also trying supplements to get better. I'm doing well these days except I have Hashimoto's, secondary adrenal insufficiency and lichen sclerosis. All of these diseases are hormone deficiency related. Talk about Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals and Toxins. > > Off topic but since the issue of Tylenol and the liver has come up before, news says strength of over the counter Tylenol may be reduced and extra strength may become available only by prescription, due to study showing that a major number of deaths by liver failure have been due to accidental over ingestion of Tylenol. One reason is because it is in so many other otc and also prescription drugs that a person doesn't really know how much they are getting. > > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2009/06/what-happens-to-tylenol-in\ -the-liver-.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Sharon - At the height of my sickness I was taking 4000 mg of Tylenol Sinus, just to " sit on " the fever and fibromyalgia-type muscle pain, and to " function. " I had no idea that 5000 mg was the toxic level and of course no one ever mentioned it. It does seem weird that they are taking other medicine off the market. I think it is driven more by patent expiration than anything else. I would not take steroids either. The docs were not happy. But they were not offering me any real solution. > > I heard about this and yes I've been aware of this for awhile. I take Tylenol 3 but only 3 or 4 a day. I do this to avoid having to take steroids. Today I went down to 5 mg. of hydrocortisone. I'm happy about that but if I don't manage my pain I end up having to take more hydrocortisone. I checked the mg. and each one is 30. I don't take anything else for pain. I'm also trying supplements to get better. I'm doing well these days except I have Hashimoto's, secondary adrenal insufficiency and lichen sclerosis. All of these diseases are hormone deficiency related. Talk about Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals and Toxins. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 No, Tylenol news is really driven by liver failure of people taking Tylenol and deaths. I had all the symptoms of liver trouble all of a sudden after starting to take one extra stength Tylenol every night for sleep. My liver had had mold exposure too and the Tylenol was perhaps the last straw but it was on all the major news networks that I saw. The patent on Tylenol has been blown decades ago and is out as generic acetamenophen anyway. It is all acetamenophen, generic as well as Tylenol brand, that is toxic to the liver in doses close to those suggested for treatment, so you have to add all the various ways you are getting acetamenophen in and add them together to see what you are taking. Also if your liver has been damaged by toxic exposure, that may be too much. It's just an off topic FYI. > > It does seem weird that they are taking other medicine off the market. I think it is driven more by patent expiration than anything else. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 When I said taking some drugs off the market I meant Tylenol or acetaminophen " blended " opiates like Vicoden and Percocet which are older and being taken supposedly off the prescription lists. I don't hear the " moneymakers " which have done the most recent damage like Oxycontin, which was approved by the FDA despite the warnings it could be lethal if the time-release properties were destroyed. They've known about liver damage for years but nothing was done under the last administration. I was cautioned in 2002 about Tylenol and the liver damage thing. It is too bad that we need a new President to get accountability back where it belongs. If they don't do the job, the FDA should not be in business. Let them find another enforcement vehicle. > > No, Tylenol news is really driven by liver failure of people taking Tylenol and deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Yes, It is my personal opinion that tylenol is the worst OTC pain med. It does nothing for inflammation, which is a major source of pain, and my dr says that an overdose will melt your pancreas, a very painful way to die that there is no cure for. Also my friend the pharmacist says that 90% of all scripts with tylenol that she gets from Dr ,if taken as directed contain a chronic or immediate overdose of tylenol, she says she used to call the drs office and tell them, but it happens so frequently that she just changes the dose herself. With all the penny pinching and use of non-pharmacists to fill prescriptions these days, I bet the risk of a prescription containing tylenol being an overdose is much greater now than ever. > > Off topic but since the issue of Tylenol and the liver has come up before, news says strength of over the counter Tylenol may be reduced and extra strength may become available only by prescription, due to study showing that a major number of deaths by liver failure have been due to accidental over ingestion of Tylenol. One reason is because it is in so many other otc and also prescription drugs that a person doesn't really know how much they are getting. > > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2009/06/what-happens-to-tylenol-in\ -the-liver-.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 I totally agree! Tylenol is lousy and never helped with any pain I had. I still think aspirin is one of the best pain relievers. As with any drug, it can pose risk but taken in moderation and on a full stomach to prevent stomach irritation, it works better than any than I know of. > > Yes, It is my personal opinion that tylenol is the worst OTC pain med. It does nothing for inflammation, which is a major source of pain, and my dr says that an overdose will melt your pancreas, a very painful way to die that there is no cure for. Also my friend the (SNIP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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