Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 It is nice to be here on the list. Thank you Alice for your writings and for the opportunity to be here. I am a friend and colleague of Burmeister. He is the one who introduced me to the list. It is nice to be out in this world in this way interacting a little with others that are exploring the world of the psyche. For my own part I don't have the Jungian background that does. My intro to all of this has been from being a client of Marc's and then going through the North of Eden teacher and therapist training. I have loved learning from my dreams and being with others who have allowed themselves to be guided by their dreams. I am excited to continue that process here and in the rest of my life. Sincerely, Bill St.Cyr PS The title " Deep Well Tapes " comes from a couple things. The deep well is from a story Marc wrote as a child where the main character jumps into a " deep well " . It of course also refers to the archetypal world. The book started out as tape recordings of Marc answering questions about the work - hence the title " Deep Well Tapes " . dwatkins5qwestnet wrote: > > I think that it is certainly true that, if we are not right, we are > attracted to what is not right. > > The title - " The Deep Well Tapes " - appears to be a take-off on " The > Screwtape Letters " . Is it in effect a critique of the book? > > regards, > > Dan Watkins > > > > > > Dear Jung-Fire Friends, > > > > > > > > Below is an excerpt from a forthcoming book in progress by Marc Bregman, > > with Sue Scavo, entitled " The Deep Well Tapes - Sex, Trauma and > Conjunctio. " > > It touched me in a powerful way and I hope some of you resonate with it > > also. > > > > > > > > Marc's previous books, " The Deep Well Tapes " with Sue Scavo and > Ellen Keene, > > and " The Secret of the Pomegranate " with Sue Scavo, can be purchased at > > www.amazon.com, as can Rodger Kamenetz' " The History of Last Night's > Dream. " > > I recommend them to you and I invite your comments on this profoundly > > touching excerpt. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > Choosing Victimization or Choosing Responsibility > > > > The reason we turn to people rather than the Divine is that people > always > > disappoint us and it always justifies our victimization. It is like the > > Darwinian theory of evolution. There is always something to fulfill > the need > > for something else. > > > > For example, there was a flower discovered in Brazil where the > throat of the > > flower that contained the stamen was incredibly deep. The only way > to reach > > the stamen was for a creature with an incredibly long nose or beak or > > tongue, a creature that had never been seen before. Scientists > filmed the > > flower, which only bloomed at night, for months while it waited for > > something to come. And something did come. An insect that had never been > > seen before. This creature had a rolled up tongue that when unfurled > was 8 > > inches long. It landed on the flower, unfurled its tongue and > fertilized the > > flower. It is a miracle of nature - build it and something will come. > > > > If we are victims, we will look for someone to victimize us. If we are a > > lover, we will look for someone to be our lover. Whatever we are, we > will > > get exactly that back. > > > > Only the child self wants the love. Anything that is not the child > self will > > want to be abused or want to find someone who will reflect and support > > whatever it is that we have become. If we are not the core of who we > are, > > that what comes is going to be malignant. Whatever we think we want, > if it > > does not come from the core of ourselves, it is not going to be > right for > > us. We can then, of course, blame it for not being right, but really > we are > > not right. Because we are not right, we are attracted to what is not > really > > right. > > > > It is very difficult to differentiate and know ourselves enough to > know when > > we are choosing something away from our core selves. Normally, we > believe > > that everything is okay and we are okay and that the problem is that > we have > > idiots around us. But actually, there is a great deal of beauty > around us. > > > > If we are the beauty, then we find the beauty. If we do not find the > beauty, > > it is because we are not deep enough in ourselves. If we do not find > God, it > > is because we are not the soul that can receive God. Instead of > standing in > > the truth of this, it is easier to say that we have a soul but that > there is > > no God to receive and there is no love. Then the fix is in and we > are left > > bereft. There is no way to win unless we find our soul, unless we > find the > > part of us that is open and vulnerable and waiting to receive. > > > > If we are bereft, we always get the worst out of the relationship rather > > than the best. We get what we are. If we want more out of people, we > have to > > get more out of ourselves. The limitation of our own self-awareness > becomes > > what we do not see in others. Often people we choose have nothing to > give to > > us. When people do have something to give us, we do not get it > because we > > are not able to see it nor are we able to receive or even be open to > receive > > it. > > > > We may find that there is a great deal more love in this world than we > > realize. What a tragedy that because of our own unawareness of the > parts of > > ourselves that could receive the love, if only we were awake to the > love, we > > do not receive the love. > > > > It is always right in front of us but we are not showing up to > receive it. > > Once we open to ourselves and have the Divine connection, many > things that > > appear not so good become wonderful. The problem becomes less a > problem and > > we see the beauty behind the problem. It is as of all we see is the > shadow > > cast by the earth on the moon that creates the eclipse, never seeing the > > light. Or the eclipse of the sun. The shadow of the moon when it passes > > between the earth and the sun at just the right angle darkens the > sun, but > > the sun is always there. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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