Re: burning hands - possible causes

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I'd consider several solution areas. Also, the symptoms as posted

seemed incomplete.

Type of burning, down the wrist or not, etc.

Did you post about this several months ago? There was a thread 5-8 weeks ago.

I had a long reply then. Briefly...

Nerve pinching, in the wrist, shoulder, or neck can cause this.

Any medication can cause this. Medication put on the hands can cause it.

Your bar soap can cause this. Or your shampoo. Or your pillow, how you sleep.

Something you touch each morning, the car steering wheel (I put

leather on mine),

the bathroom door knob, the tap handles at a sink, or shower/tub, your belt,

running your hands through your hair (grease), a towel you use too frequently

and should throw out, a kitchen sponge or towel (1 week infects them

with germs),

biting your nails, fungus on the skin (should be dry, patching as well).

Most of these " causes " are not western medicine, but I included them as

any MCS could cause localized swelling in the hands, or the nerves.

MCS takes you out of the normal western medicine " comfort zone. "

A nerve that swells up, or is pinched from bone growth, a tumor or cyst, a

spinal lesion, will cause swelling. Uncontrollable swelling. Until the

nerve source of pinching is treated.

Pinching can occur at any point from the extremity to the neck. The neck

is a common cause of hand pain. Read up on Dr McKenzie's neck exercises.

I'm going to buy this book at Amazon, about $10 used, as I am tired my

forearms tingling, and I know pushing my chin back towards my neck

will stop the tingling, so I know the nerve is pinched in my neck.

Try " everything " at least a few times. I agree the swelling must be brought

down, and icing is only a temporary symptom reduction, of just one symptom.

All symptoms must be brought under control, pain, burning, etc.

Good luck. Let us know what works.

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- It's definitely an MCS reaction limited to when I'm reacting to triggers,

although I can't seem to figure out what about my

laundry/clothes/house/car is a trigger yet. It doesn't seem at all to be a

pinched nerve but

sounds like neuropathy or vasculitis when I look up the symptoms. I used to

get it when I was around mold all the time, but now we've purged and moved

and blah blah and it was fine, then started again again, especially at night

and in the morning, and especially in the house.

It's a hot, swollen feeling in the fingertips - just the tips. They

appear reddish, too. When in the car, I have the uncontrollable urge to put my

fingers in my mouth and chew on them. I've ruined my nails and cuticles

because of this, but it seems to be automatic honestly. When I get out of the

car or the situation where my hands burn (in bed at night, around " bad "

clothes I washed), it stops. I thought EMF but it's not just around EMF....

I continue to test out everything and just can't seem to determine the

exact irritants in the house just yet...but in the meantime was hoping maybe

there was something I could take/do to minimize the pain!

I'll try the below...thanks!

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I'd consider several solution areas. Also, the symptoms as posted

seemed incomplete.

Type of burning, down the wrist or not, etc.

Did you post about this several months ago? There was a thread 5-8 weeks

ago.

I had a long reply then. Briefly...

Nerve pinching, in the wrist, shoulder, or neck can cause this.

Any medication can cause this. Medication put on the hands can cause it.

Your bar soap can cause this. Or your shampoo. Or your pillow, how you

sleep.

Something you touch each morning, the car steering wheel (I put

leather on mine),

the bathroom door knob, the tap handles at a sink, or shower/tub, your

belt,

running your hands through your hair (grease), a towel you use too

frequently

and should throw out, a kitchen sponge or towel (1 week infects them

with germs),

biting your nails, fungus on the skin (should be dry, patching as well).

Most of these " causes " are not western medicine, but I included them as

any MCS could cause localized swelling in the hands, or the nerves.

MCS takes you out of the normal western medicine " comfort zone. "

A nerve that swells up, or is pinched from bone growth, a tumor or cyst, a

spinal lesion, will cause swelling. Uncontrollable swelling. Until the

nerve source of pinching is treated.

Pinching can occur at any point from the extremity to the neck. The neck

is a common cause of hand pain. Read up on Dr McKenzie's neck exercises.

I'm going to buy this book at Amazon, about $10 used, as I am tired my

forearms tingling, and I know pushing my chin back towards my neck

will stop the tingling, so I know the nerve is pinched in my neck.

Try " everything " at least a few times. I agree the swelling must be brought

down, and icing is only a temporary symptom reduction, of just one symptom.

All symptoms must be brought under control, pain, burning, etc.

Good luck. Let us know what works.

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At 09:01 AM 7/27/2009, JSverdlove@... wrote:

>- It's definitely an MCS reaction limited to when I'm reacting to

>triggers, although I can't seem to figure out what about my

>laundry/clothes/house/car is a trigger yet. It doesn't seem at all

>to be a pinched nerve but sounds like neuropathy

Hmm, my understanding of neuropathy is they do not know what causes it.

My theory is neuropathy is caused by swelling that reduces the nerve

conduction at that area.

Another way to say 'pinched nerve'.

So, as neuropathy is not treatable, I suggest you treat swelling in case it's

due to a pinched nerve. Now, I have not itemized the 5 or so number of ways

I know that swelling can reduce nerve conduction. It can be indirect. The

amount of swelling does not need to be " visible " .

One day, if several people express enough interest I will itemize a dozen

ways that swelling can cause extremity neuropathy. I've posted about

6 ways in the past 6 years. As my father had it, before he passed on,

I did more research. I've had it for 19 years. So, my interest is very high.

> especially at night and in the morning, and especially in the house.

Why night and morning? Do you leave for work during the week?

Is that why? Or do you notice it on weekends? Do spend the

weekend indoors, or keep finding reasons to be out of the house,

and then find reasons to keep away from the house as long as possible?

Avoidance behavior is a big clue, in my book. It's absence does not mean

anything, though. It's presence is very meaningful.

Nights and morning are cool. Could it be something in the air?

I'm thinking the cool air changes the air flow in/out of your home.

Prevailing wind direction might be measured, and upwind examined,

for trees, flowers, garden soil gone moldy, a home gone moldy,

a factory releasing fumes at night, a construction project (house,

apartment, building), a basement being dug, etc. Anything that

puts a type of dust in the air.

Now, as you had the symptoms before, and have a known a cause,

then perhaps you need to think of some source of that cause that is

now in the house, or nearby? Did you sell your sofa to someone?

Did you take a box out of storage, and open it?

Are you allergic to moon light? ;-)

Now, my mold hypersensitivity symptoms came back when chronically

exposed to sewer gas coming from the hot water heater. Do you smell

sewer gas? Rotten egg smell? It turns off your sense of smell within

5 seconds or less, at low levels.

Night and mornings are times that everyone uses the sewer, making

dinner, showering, breakfast, and a slow pipe can back up, and

force out sewer gas, bubbling up the toilet, or other drain trap.

Even with enough force to push water out of the trap so constant

sewer gas enters the home.

Do disinfect all your drains. Do a visual inspection for algae in the

shower/tub drain. Remove the drain grill and shine a strong flashlight

and get as good an angle as possible to see as far down. A coat

hanger can drag out algae, as it grows 1-2 inches long.

>

>It's a hot, swollen feeling in the fingertips - just the tips. They

>appear reddish, too. When in the car, I have the uncontrollable urge

>to put my fingers in my mouth and chew on them. I've ruined my

>nails and cuticles because of this, but it seems to be automatic

>honestly. When I get out of the car or the situation where my hands

>burn (in bed at night, around " bad " clothes I washed), it stops.

These are GREAT CLUES, if I only had read down this far first.

I've run out of time this morning. I hope I can post more later

this week. Remind me if I do not.

Do you treat under your fingernails for fungus?

Do you have any facial acne? And boils? White heads? Black heads?

Treatment can be as easy vinegar soak, peroxide, or what I do,

iodine put under the nails, each night.

As it involves the tips, under the finger nail is a KEY area for the

cause, imho.

>I continue to test out everything and just can't seem to determine

>the exact irritants in the house just yet...but in the meantime was

>hoping maybe there was something I could take/do to minimize the pain!

White willow bark is the precursor for aspirin.

Neuropathy is pretty much untreatable as an individual symptom.

Pain management web sites abound now, and if you read

Dr Baylock's post, then you know why. Pain management

is not a solution, just reduces your lifetime, and puts money

in the drug company pockets.

[Guest guest]

---

: You mentioned a couple times that neuropathy is not treatable. Have you

ever tried IV-IG (intravenous immunoglobulin)? It is suppose to help

significantly with neuropathy. I have a friend who is doing it now. D

In , <pete-@...> wrote:

>

> At 09:01 AM 7/27/2009, JSverdlove@... wrote:

> >- It's definitely an MCS reaction limited to when I'm reacting to

> >triggers, although I can't seem to figure out what about my

> >laundry/clothes/house/car is a trigger yet. It doesn't seem at all

> >to be a pinched nerve but sounds like neuropathy

>

[Guest guest]

---Do you have or know someone who has a medical ozone machine? If you did you

might try what they call bagging. You put your hands in a plastic bag ( one that

can tolerate ozone0 and ozone it and see if that would work. I do a lot of ozone

for my Lyme and fungul problems as well as mold, MCS and allergies. I do some

via the ears and that helps my sinus area but I also funnel areas like my

stomach. When I inhale mold spores I have gotten a stomach ache for years. This

so far is also helping. It seems to kill the pathogens and give healing through

the oxygen as well. You might want to check the ozone group and see if Dr

Pressman could give you some ideas. cathy

In , Jsverdlove@... wrote:

>

> - It's definitely an MCS reaction limited to when I'm reacting to triggers,

> although I can't seem to figure out what about my

> laundry/clothes/house/car is a trigger yet. It doesn't seem at all to be a

pinched nerve but

> sounds like neuropathy or vasculitis when I look up the symptoms. I used to

> get it when I was around mold all the time, but now we've purged and moved

> and blah blah and it was fine, then started again again, especially at night

> and in the morning, and especially in the house.

>

> It's a hot, swollen feeling in the fingertips - just the tips. They

> appear reddish, too. When in the car, I have the uncontrollable urge to put my

> fingers in my mouth and chew on them. I've ruined my nails and cuticles

> because of this, but it seems to be automatic honestly. When I get out of

the

> car or the situation where my hands burn (in bed at night, around " bad "

> clothes I washed), it stops. I thought EMF but it's not just around EMF....

>

> I continue to test out everything and just can't seem to determine the

> exact irritants in the house just yet...but in the meantime was hoping maybe

> there was something I could take/do to minimize the pain!

>

> I'll try the below...thanks!

> ------

>

>

> I'd consider several solution areas. Also, the symptoms as posted

> seemed incomplete.

> Type of burning, down the wrist or not, etc.

>

> Did you post about this several months ago? There was a thread 5-8 weeks

> ago.

> I had a long reply then. Briefly...

>

> Nerve pinching, in the wrist, shoulder, or neck can cause this.

> Any medication can cause this. Medication put on the hands can cause it.

>

> Your bar soap can cause this. Or your shampoo. Or your pillow, how you

> sleep.

>

> Something you touch each morning, the car steering wheel (I put

> leather on mine),

> the bathroom door knob, the tap handles at a sink, or shower/tub, your

> belt,

> running your hands through your hair (grease), a towel you use too

> frequently

> and should throw out, a kitchen sponge or towel (1 week infects them

> with germs),

> biting your nails, fungus on the skin (should be dry, patching as well).

>

> Most of these " causes " are not western medicine, but I included them as

> any MCS could cause localized swelling in the hands, or the nerves.

> MCS takes you out of the normal western medicine " comfort zone. "

>

> A nerve that swells up, or is pinched from bone growth, a tumor or cyst, a

> spinal lesion, will cause swelling. Uncontrollable swelling. Until the

> nerve source of pinching is treated.

>

> Pinching can occur at any point from the extremity to the neck. The neck

> is a common cause of hand pain. Read up on Dr McKenzie's neck exercises.

> I'm going to buy this book at Amazon, about $10 used, as I am tired my

> forearms tingling, and I know pushing my chin back towards my neck

> will stop the tingling, so I know the nerve is pinched in my neck.

>

> Try " everything " at least a few times. I agree the swelling must be brought

> down, and icing is only a temporary symptom reduction, of just one symptom.

> All symptoms must be brought under control, pain, burning, etc.

>

> Good luck. Let us know what works.

>

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