Re: Stages of Mycotoxicosis

[Guest guest]

Do not take me wrong. I live by the one statment my major professor said to me

and fellow students when we were in graduate school developing the research for

our Ph.D. theses. He said to: " If you have thought about it somone else has

published on it. Go back and search all of the literature and find the original

statements and ideas and give due credit. " I suggest that one read the all 28

pages of the text of the paper by Newberne and all of the research published by

Forgacs on Stachybotrycosis. These individuals were among the early pioneers and

give full credit to those before them where it is due. I give credit to Dr.

Croft who published on trichothecenes in humans and illness resulting from his

observations. I also give full credit to others who have contributed to the

biological complexity of damp indoor spaces, such as Etzle, Dearborn, Brazel,

Calderon-Garciduenas, Wallace, among many others. I suggest that one approach

this subject from a historical point of view for a better undestanding of the

problem. For example, Wallace et al of the EPA TEAM program in the early 1980s

were the first to show that indoor air contains VOCs in greater concentration

than outdoor air, even in heavily polluted cities such as N.Y. and L.A. What

does this mean? Humans are responsible for listening to those who suggest our

homes and buildings become air tight in order to conserve on energy. This

research showed us that it was wrong to make homes and buildings with limited

ventilation.

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

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[Guest guest]

Sence the old terms are sicking around wouldn't it be safe to say, I have sick

building syndrome, (MCS,chronic sinus desease and chronic inflamatory disease)

caused by exposure the accumalated fifth and contamination produced by water

damaged buildings.

and it should be reconised that severe exposures can and do cause fungal,

bacterial and or toxic memungitis that can result in BBB breajdown abd brain

swelling and CLOSED HEAD TBI. weither it starts from the sinuses or the stomach.

because we all know when you are exposed it is from every route. and that brain

scans can and do show damage not only to the ofactory tracts but also the spinal

cords.

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> Carl, I have been in the background and silent for sometime now for various

reasons but I happen to read this. You know I respect and believe everything you

say because you know what you do and have proved it. I must say though I am a

little confussed at this statement. Here, I will not say much but will leave

with just that. I am confused.

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> Love ya Carl,

> Chris

[Guest guest]

I acrually fell that mold does play a hudge role, but I think it is the

fermentation process and what is involved in fermentation.

and I think theres some majuor fermentation going on in water damaged building,

some of them amyway, those toghtly close up, poor air ventalation or long time

setting, festering water damaged buildings.

you go into high hummidity, long time mold infested house when its hot outside

and just after a rain and the fermenting going on there will take your breath

away. I think theres not much difference between our illness and a acoholics

illness, inly theri main route is threw the stomach. I think much could be

reconized by looking at the fermentation process. is what happens to our insides

much different than what happens when a apple rotts? and even if you cut out the

bad spots theres always some you could see that continues the process.

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> Carl, I have been in the background and silent for sometime now for various

reasons but I happen to read this. You know I respect and believe everything you

say because you know what you do and have proved it. I must say though I am a

little confussed at this statement. Here, I will not say much but will leave

with just that. I am confused.

>  

> Love ya Carl,

> Chris

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