Are we considered trained psychotherapists?

December 4, 2008

Hello Everyone,

I am a Licensed art therapist and I am training to become a certified group psychotherapist. Does anyone know if I am allowed to practice group psychotherapy (verbal not creative arts) with my current license? I ask because the board of education outlines our scope of practice to include arts and says nothing of verbal groups. If anyone knows who I should be contacting please email me at marshcatherine@....

Thanks so much,

Marsh

LCAT, ATR-BC

Woodhull Medical and Mental Health Center.

December 5, 2008

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Found this at: http://www.op.nysed.gov/article163.htm

If you have been trained to run groups as an Art Therapist, you are qualified to run groups as a licensed CAT. Teh group training that you are doing now means that you are doing extra training to run "talk" groups.

Hope this helps,

Jenn Tantia, ADTR, LCAT

former NYCCAT board member

§8404. Creative arts therapy.

Definition of the practice of creative arts therapy. The practice of the profession of creative arts therapy is defined as:

the assessment, evaluation, and the therapeutic intervention and treatment, which may be either primary, parallel or adjunctive, of mental, emotional, developmental and behavioral disorders through the use of the arts as approved by the department; and the use of assessment instruments and mental health counseling and psychotherapy to identify, evaluate and treat dysfunctions and disorders for purposes of providing appropriate creative arts therapy services.

Practice of creative arts therapy and use of the titles "creative arts therapist" and "licensed creative arts therapist". Only a person licensed or exempt under this article shall practice creative arts therapy or use the title "creative arts therapist". Only a person licensed under this article shall use the title "licensed creative arts therapist" or any other designation tending to imply that the person is licensed to practice creative arts therapy. Requirements for a professional license. To qualify for a license as a "licensed creative arts therapist", an applicant shall fulfill the following requirements:

Application: File an application with the department; Education: Have received an education, including a master's or higher degree in creative arts therapy from a program registered by the department or determined by the department to be the substantial equivalent thereof, in accordance with the commissioner's regulations. The graduate coursework shall include, but not be limited to, the following areas:

human growth and development; theories in therapy; group dynamics; assessment and appraisal of individuals and groups; research and program evaluation; professional orientation and ethics; foundations of creative arts therapy and psychopathology; and clinical instruction;

Experience: Have completed at least fifteen hundred hours of post-master's supervised experience in one or more creative arts therapies satisfactory to the department and in accordance with the commissioner's regulations; Examination: Pass an examination in creative arts therapy satisfactory to the department and in accordance with the commissioner's regulations; Age: Be at least twenty-one years of age; Character: Be of good moral character as determined by the department; and Fees: Pay a fee of one hundred seventy-five dollars for an initial license and a fee of one hundred seventy dollars for each triennial registration period.

Tantia, MS, ADTR, LCAT

Subject: Are we considered trained psychotherapists?To: NYCCAT Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:24 PM

Hello Everyone,

I am a Licensed art therapist and I am training to become a certified group psychotherapist. Does anyone know if I am allowed to practice group psychotherapy (verbal not creative arts) with my current license? I ask because the board of education outlines our scope of practice to include arts and says nothing of verbal groups. If anyone knows who I should be contacting please email me at marshcatherine@ gmail.com.

Thanks so much,

Marsh

LCAT, ATR-BC

Woodhull Medical and Mental Health Center.

December 5, 2008

Sorry about that...I was trying to send this to only...

Apologies.

~ Jenn

Tantia, MS, ADTR, LCAT

From: Marsh <marshcatherine@ gmail.com>Subject: Are we considered trained psychotherapists?To: NYCCATyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:24 PM

Hello Everyone,

I am a Licensed art therapist and I am training to become a certified group psychotherapist. Does anyone know if I am allowed to practice group psychotherapy (verbal not creative arts) with my current license? I ask because the board of education outlines our scope of practice to include arts and says nothing of verbal groups. If anyone knows who I should be contacting please email me at marshcatherine@ gmail.com.

Thanks so much,

Marsh

LCAT, ATR-BC

Woodhull Medical and Mental Health Center.

December 8, 2008

Dear Ms. Tantia,

Thank you for responding. I just want to be clear. Are you saying that once my training is complete then I have the legal right to run a verbal group and call it a verbal group?

:

Found this at: http://www.op.nysed.gov/article163.htm

If you have been trained to run groups as an Art Therapist, you are qualified to run groups as a licensed CAT. Teh group training that you are doing now means that you are doing extra training to run " talk " groups.

Hope this helps,

Jenn Tantia, ADTR, LCAT

former NYCCAT board member

§8404. Creative arts therapy.

Definition of the practice of creative arts therapy. The practice of the profession of creative arts therapy is defined as:

the assessment, evaluation, and the therapeutic intervention and treatment, which may be either primary, parallel or adjunctive, of mental, emotional, developmental and behavioral disorders through the use of the arts as approved by the department; and the use of assessment instruments and mental health counseling and psychotherapy to identify, evaluate and treat dysfunctions and disorders for purposes of providing appropriate creative arts therapy services.

Practice of creative arts therapy and use of the titles " creative arts therapist " and " licensed creative arts therapist " . Only a person licensed or exempt under this article shall practice creative arts therapy or use the title " creative arts therapist " . Only a person licensed under this article shall use the title " licensed creative arts therapist " or any other designation tending to imply that the person is licensed to practice creative arts therapy. Requirements for a professional license. To qualify for a license as a " licensed creative arts therapist " , an applicant shall fulfill the following requirements:

Application: File an application with the department; Education: Have received an education, including a master's or higher degree in creative arts therapy from a program registered by the department or determined by the department to be the substantial equivalent thereof, in accordance with the commissioner's regulations. The graduate coursework shall include, but not be limited to, the following areas:

human growth and development; theories in therapy; group dynamics; assessment and appraisal of individuals and groups; research and program evaluation; professional orientation and ethics; foundations of creative arts therapy and psychopathology; and clinical instruction;

Experience: Have completed at least fifteen hundred hours of post-master's supervised experience in one or more creative arts therapies satisfactory to the department and in accordance with the commissioner's regulations; Examination: Pass an examination in creative arts therapy satisfactory to the department and in accordance with the commissioner's regulations; Age: Be at least twenty-one years of age; Character: Be of good moral character as determined by the department; and Fees: Pay a fee of one hundred seventy-five dollars for an initial license and a fee of one hundred seventy dollars for each triennial registration period.