Horrible provisions in healthcare bill

[Guest guest]

The Health Care that you will get

.... like it or not!

The government prepared a

legalese nightmare designed to make it difficult for the general voting

population to understand what is being proposed.  It is by design to make it

confusing and

deter you from reading it.  It is

1,017 pages long.

 

However, here we have made a list

of items for you to read as items of importance so that you  may have some

undertaking of what is

being proposed for us.

 

Open the bill by clicking on this link

…

 

 http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/images/BILLS-111hr3200IH.pdf

 

and then go to the specific pages

mentioned here and read it.

 

Pages of Healthcare Bill you may want to

read, some may not apply to you.

• Page 22: Mandates audits of all

employers that self-insure

• Page 29: Admission: your health care will

be rationed

• Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments

and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)

• Page 42: The " Health Choices Commissioner " will decide health benefits

for you. You will have no choice.

• Page 50: All non-US citizens,

illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.

• Page

58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.

• Page 59: The

federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank

accounts for electronic funds transfer.

• Page 65: Taxpayers will

subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU,

UAW and ACORN)

• Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to

government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.

• Page 84: All

private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e.,

total government control of private plans)

• Page 91: Government

mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens

• Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up

individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.

• Page 102: Those

eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the

matter.

• Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing.

No " judicial review " is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply,

private insurers will be crushed.

• Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out:

the government will set wages.

• Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll

employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.

• Page

126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their

families.

• Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who

does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll

• Page 150:

Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public

option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll

• Page 167: Any individual who

doesnt' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed

2.5% of income.

• Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from

individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).

• Page 195: Officers and

employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American

financial and personal records.

• Page 203: " The tax imposed under this

section shall not be treated as tax. "

• Page 239: Bill will reduce

physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected. "

•

Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the

same

• Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their

professional judgment, etc.

• Page 265: Government mandates and controls

productivity for private healthcare industries.

• Page 268: Government

regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.

• Page 272:

Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!

• Page

280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable

re-admissions.

• Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an

initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the

government.

• Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and

investing in healthcare companies!

• Page 318: Prohibition on hospital

expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.

• Page

321: Hospital expansion hinges on " community " input: in other words, yet another

payoff for ACORN.

• Page 335: Government mandates establishment of

outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.

• Page 341: Government has

authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.

• Page 354:

Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.

• Page

379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).

• Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior

Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?

• Page 425: Government will

instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc.

Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.

• Page 425:

Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.

• Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life

treatment; government dictates how your life ends.

• Page 429: Advance

Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health

deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the

GOVERNMENT.

• Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments

you may have at end-of-life.

• Page 469: Community-based Home Medical

Services: more payoffs for ACORN.

• Page 472: Payments to

Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.

• Page 489:

Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your

marriage.

• Page 494: Government will cover mental health services:

defining, creating and rationing those services.

Write, email, fax or call your Senators and

your Representatives and tell them how you want them to vote.

 Do take time and read the healthcare

bill.

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[Guest guest]

Please read the actual bill. (if you can find it! See below).

Don't stop with the interpretation offered. It is someone's opinion,

you don't know who, or why they believe this. Some of the

interpretations from the " public " are actually front organizations

paid for and organized by the insurance companies themselves.

Some may be legitimate. Can you tell the difference?

Again, read the original documents for yourself and make up your

own mind. See if you agree or disagree with the " opinion " of the

sender.

I have received this and similar lists over a dozen times recently,

none of which identify the source of the opinions. Instead, they

offer it as an obvious conclusion which any good American would

automatically reject.

1. They set us up by saying it is written in legalese designed to

confuse and it is long, over 1000 pages. So they help us out by

offering a simple bullet point interpretation of each. When read as

" someone " has written it I'm appalled! But wait, is that actually

what HR3200 says?

2. If you Google HR3200 you will see it is posted on many sites.

They don't all carry the same date!!! Some of the downloaded HR

3200 Bill identifies it as the 109th Congress, July 11, 2005 and

others carry the 111th Congress with a date of July 14, 2009, for

example. One carries a certification notice which looks official but

I've never seen it on other official government documents. Is it a

scam like the PayPal and eBay notifications? or like the false

notices from your bank?

Finally, this is a Bill in progress. It is not final. There are other

House versions and the Senate has theirs. Once one is approved

by each, it will go to a conference committee.

Despite those checks and balances, let your Congressmen know

how you feel. Just make sure you are talking about what is real

and not made up " stuff " by someone who has their own best

interest in mind - at your expense.

We need to be very careful or we'll get even more of what is

hurting us.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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>

>

> The Health Care that you will get

> ... like it or not!

> The government prepared a

> legalese nightmare designed to make it difficult for the general voting

> population to understand what is being proposed. It is by design to make it

confusing and

> deter you from reading it. It is

> 1,017 pages long.

>

> However, here we have made a list

> of items for you to read as items of importance so that youmay have some

undertaking of what is

> being proposed for us.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think the public is reading it more than those working in Washington!!!!

Please read the actual bill. (if you can find it! See below).

Don't stop with the interpretation offered. It is someone's opinion,

you don't know who, or why they believe this. Some of the

interpretations from the " public " are actually front organizations

paid for and organized by the insurance companies themselves.

Some may be legitimate. Can you tell the difference?

[Guest guest]

All bills on Congress are thousands of pages long. I hear them complain all the

time, but by the time EVERYONE puts in what they want, that's how long it gets.

This is not unusual. Congress people have teams reading it and summarizing it

for them. Some never get fully read by people voting on it. Lots of bills from

previous administration and administrations before that, and committees in

congress that put them together. This is their work. Life is complicated. I

agree with Sharon who said though she hopes they slow down and get it right and

not be in a rush for such an important thing.

" Summaries " , like one below, should not be considered legitimate since source is

unknown.

>

>

> The Health Care that you will get

> ... like it or not!

> The government prepared a

> legalese nightmare designed to make it difficult for the general voting

> population to understand what is being proposed.  It is by design to make it

confusing and

> deter you from reading it.  It is

> 1,017 pages long.

>  

> However, here we have made a list

> of items for you to read as items of importance so that you  may have some

undertaking of what is

> being proposed for us.

>  

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Attributed your comments below to Carl. You are right...as is Carl. READ

THE BILL.

_http://help.senate.gov/_ (http://help.senate.gov/)

In a message dated 8/10/2009 6:02:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ssr3351@... writes:

I think the public is reading it more than those working in Washington!!I

Please read the actual bill. (if you can find it! See below).

Don't stop with the interpretation offered. It is someone's opinion,

you don't know who, or why they believe this. Some of the

interpretations from the " public " are actually front organizations

paid for and organized by the insurance companies themselves.

Some may be legitimate. Can you tell the difference?

[Guest guest]

As a person without any healthcare and this horrible illness it has been quite

disturbing all the arguing on tv in these town meetings and in gov't. I

certainly don't mind waiting for a doctor or test because right now I am not

getting any care and haven't since 2001. To get it where my husband works it

would be about 800.00 a month and of course there is the pre-existing illness so

no need to bother. Having a safe home is my priority. I once had a doctor that

said you can have all the medical help in the world but if you still live in a

home with mold you are fighting a losing battle.

>

> Sue,

>

> Attributed your comments below to Carl. You are right...as is Carl. READ

> THE BILL.

>

> _http://help.senate.gov/_ (http://help.senate.gov/)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree complaetely.  I have had no care as well since 2004.  No treatment for

anything.  All I have is 02.  My Insuarnce Co (homeowners filed bankruptcy in

2006.  I have not heard fom FIGA which was supposed to disburse them.. They are

just more criminals.  I sent all my paperwork in and still have not heard back. 

Today they say claims have been closed, can you believe it.  Where is mine and

the paperwork I sent them ??  Government invloved Insurance takeover just

another crime.  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:54:59 AM

Subject: [] Re: Horrible provisions in " healthcare " bill

 

As a person without any healthcare and this horrible illness it has been quite

disturbing all the arguing on tv in these town meetings and in gov't. I

certainly don't mind waiting for a doctor or test because right now I am not

getting any care and haven't since 2001. To get it where my husband works it

would be about 800.00 a month and of course there is the pre-existing illness so

no need to bother. Having a safe home is my priority. I once had a doctor that

said you can have all the medical help in the world but if you still live in a

home with mold you are fighting a losing battle.

>

> Sue,

>

> Attributed your comments below to Carl. You are right...as is Carl. READ

> THE BILL.

>

> _http://help. senate.gov/ _ (http://help. senate.gov/)

>

>