Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Dear Barb, What you said about oral steroids being prohibitive if you have a fungal infection, would you, or anyone on the list know if that also pertains to steroid inhalers? Is this line of thought similar to Dr. Shoemaker's views on steroids and mold exposure being analogous to pouring gasoline on a fire and exacerbating the adrenals? Or is there some other, additional info about steroids and fungal infections you can point me towards? Many thanks, Sam I know not to take oral steroids if you have a systemic fungal infection, but do you think one should stay away from topical steroidal creams as well? My doctor keeps prescribing them for my skin problems and I have not been filling them since I don't understand how they work, and since I've had so many things get worse under allopathy, I don't use it unless I understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 That's where I got it Sam, hearing that it is like pouring gas on a fire. I don't understand the science behind it enough to guide anyone else. I thought it was because fungus cell type is so similar to human cell that fungus can absorb steroid instead of human cell and can accelerate activity, but not sure that is the reason he, or someone?, said that. I just know anyone I have known on steroid, they always felt and looked sicker so I stay away, but I don't have lung infection, so not sure about use in inhalers. Do you read at aspergillus site? There are alot of people there with lung problems, probably here also, but there it seems to be particularly the topic. I wonder what their experience is. I belong but haven't read there in awhile. health groups, aspergillus. > > Dear Barb, > > What you said about oral steroids being prohibitive if you have a fungal infection, would you, or anyone on the list know if that also pertains to steroid inhalers? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I agree with everything you have said including putting fungus on steroids. It is my understanding you cannot combine the 2. From what I understand oral steroids are immune suppresants. Topical seroids act on the area they are applied. http://www.globalchange.com/steroids.htm I never got a benefit from them and would never use them again. That is me. They were administered for an injury. This is something that seriously concerns me the effect steroids have on systemic fungus, as this is the first cousr of action in lung disease which I greatly disagree with. http://www.wddty.com/steroids.html God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen _______________________________ From: barb1283 <barb1283@...> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:57:10 PM Subject: [] topical steriods I know not to take oral steroids if you have a systemic fungal infection, but do you think one should stay away from topical steroidal creams as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 --In 1991, long before Shoemaker said taking steroids would trip you into MCS, I had a mold exposure that affected my lungs badly, the Dr gave me a steroid inhaler, it put me right into the worst MCS I ever had, do not take steroids of any kind with mold exposure, they depress the immune system > Dear Barb, > > What you said about oral steroids being prohibitive if you have a fungal infection, would you, or anyone on the list know if that also pertains to steroid inhalers? > > Is this line of thought similar to Dr. Shoemaker's views on steroids and mold exposure being analogous to pouring gasoline on a fire and exacerbating the adrenals? Or is there some other, additional info about steroids and fungal infections you can point me towards? > > Many thanks, > Sam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I had to stop using steroid inhalers as they gave me thrush in my mouth. And I took oral steroids for a year and gained 100 pounds. Now Im off them I am trying to exercise In a message dated 9/17/2009 11:54:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kdeanstudios@... writes: --In 1991, long before Shoemaker said taking steroids would trip you into MCS, I had a mold exposure that affected my lungs badly, the Dr gave me a steroid inhaler, it put me right into the worst MCS I ever had, do not take steroids of any kind with mold exposure, they depress the immune system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Hi Barb, Thanks for the reply. If memory serves, as I had to throw out dr. Shoemaker's book due to it getting moldy, along with hundreds of other books as well, at our house. But I think he refered to the steroid medication, things like prednisone as causing the adrenals to at first have a hyper phase and then followed by severe exhaustion. Please, list members if I've mistated and/or you can amplify, would be most appreciated. Sam That's where I got it Sam, hearing that it is like pouring gas on a fire. I don't understand the science behind it enough to guide anyone else. I thought it was because fungus cell type is so similar to human cell that fungus can absorb ster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Caron, What have you done to help your lungs instead of steroids? I agree totally about its terrible impact. Feel free to post me off-list. Hope you are well. Many thanks, Sam From: carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> Subject: [] Re: topical steriods Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 3:41 PM --In 1991, long before Shoemaker said taking steroids would trip you into MCS, I had a mold exposure that affected my lungs badly, the Dr gave me a steroid inhaler, it put me right into the worst MCS I ever had, do not take steroids of any kind with mold exposure, they depress the immune system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 You are correct. In Dr. Shoemaker's book Mold Warriors (pg. 96 " Without ACTH, bad health problems can be made much worse. I say treating biotoxin illnesses with steroids is similar to " thowing gasoline on a fire. " and with good reasons. I can't tell you how many biotoxin disasters I've seen, from optic neuritis being turned into blindness to inflammatory joints turning into frozen joints, when a physician prescribed steroids. Don't let anyone give them to you if you're biotoxic! " Sue Hi Barb, Thanks for the reply. If memory serves, as I had to throw out dr. Shoemaker's book due to it getting moldy, along with hundreds of other books as well, at our house. But I think he refered to the steroid medication, things like prednisone as causing the adrenals to at first have a hyper phase and then followed by severe exhaustion. Please, list members if I've mistated and/or you can amplify, would be most appreciated. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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