Re: Heart palpitations and Tachycardia

[Guest guest]

, how many ALA IV's are we talking about? Dr Lieberman is a wonderful Dr,

but it is Dr Berkson who has the years of experience with ALA, and the one who

first used it. I took it for 6 months-2 IVs a week-1000mg in one day .After that

I took them when I had the cash. He would like me to continue the treatment.

Some people who come from far away get IV's 2 a day, all week, and come back

once a month for a week. So Just a few IV's are not going to help-or they will

help, but not give a cure that will stick. IT is such a wonderful therapy, one

that is so good for every part of your bady, if I had the money I would still be

getting 2 a week.

>

> >

> >

> > Stress test? I could not walk across the street for months after the moly

> > house, and I still have severe fatigue after mold issues. I think ALA IV's

> > will cure all those issues

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In <%40>,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Can you give me anything in writing about ALA IV's I can give to my Dr ??

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: carondeen <kdeanstudios@...>

Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 6:49:50 AM

Subject: [] Re: Heart palpitations and Tachycardia

 

, how many ALA IV's are we talking about? Dr Lieberman is a wonderful Dr,

but it is Dr Berkson who has the years of experience with ALA, and the one who

first used it. I took it for 6 months-2 IVs a week-1000mg in one day .After that

I took them when I had the cash. He would like me to continue the treatment.

Some people who come from far away get IV's 2 a day, all week, and come back

once a month for a week. So Just a few IV's are not going to help-or they will

help, but not give a cure that will stick. IT is such a wonderful therapy, one

that is so good for every part of your bady, if I had the money I would still be

getting 2 a week.

>

> >

> >

> > Stress test? I could not walk across the street for months after the moly

> > house, and I still have severe fatigue after mold issues. I think ALA IV's

> > will cure all those issues

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In <% 40groups. com>,

>

[Guest guest]

Anytime you have heart symptoms you need to check into magnesium. Check the book

Transdermal Magnesium by Mark Sircus. excellent and a real eye opener. We are

all deficient in it and it mag has over 300 functions in our body!. You can get

Nigari from the internet in 5 pound bad for eight dollars and use it for

magnesium chloride for foot baths, for baths, as a spray for your body- great to

muscle pain. Also for heart it is a good idea to check www.polarpowermagnets.com

They are not your typical magnets. They are medical ones. I use one for my heart

when it acts up and it really helps it. DR philpott has a book on it that you

might want to read as well.

EWOT- excercise with oxygen therapy is a huge helper for the heart, blood

pressure etc. Read up on it in the interernet.

>

> Also you can look into a magnesium difficiency. 

>  

>   

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

>

[Guest guest]

Diane, could the reaction have been a healing crisis? Been there and done

that (not with ALA) and I must say it was NOT pleasant. I've since learned

to take baby steps - I make small changes gradually over time to avoid a

toxin overload.

Jeri

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM, dianebolton52 <dianebolton@...>wrote:

>: When I was at my sickest with mold exposure I could not tolerate ALA

> IVs at all. I did one of them and had a terrible reaction and never did

> another. I am glad they worked for you , but what works for one person

> does not always work for another. D

[Guest guest]

In what way would Nigari be better than Epson Salts? Isn't epson salts

magnesium for bath? thanks

>

> Anytime you have heart symptoms you need to check into magnesium. Check the

book Transdermal Magnesium by Mark Sircus. excellent and a real eye opener. We

are all deficient in it and it mag has over 300 functions in our body!. You can

get Nigari from the internet in 5 pound bad for eight dollars and use it for

magnesium chloride for foot baths, for baths, as a spray for your body- great to

muscle pain. A

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much !!

 

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: cahydesmond <cahydesmond@...>

Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 12:11:58 PM

Subject: [] Re: Heart palpitations and Tachycardia

 

Anytime you have heart symptoms you need to check into magnesium. Check the book

Transdermal Magnesium by Mark Sircus. excellent and a real eye opener. We are

all deficient in it and it mag has over 300 functions in our body!. You can get

Nigari from the internet in 5 pound bad for eight dollars and use it for

magnesium chloride for foot baths, for baths, as a spray for your body- great to

muscle pain. Also for heart it is a good idea to check www.polarpowermagne

ts.com They are not your typical magnets. They are medical ones. I use one for

my heart when it acts up and it really helps it. DR philpott has a book on it

that you might want to read as well.

EWOT- excercise with oxygen therapy is a huge helper for the heart, blood

pressure etc. Read up on it in the interernet.

>

> Also you can look into a magnesium difficiency. 

>  

>   

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

>

[Guest guest]

It was my very first ALA IV. Continued the IVs without ALA and did fine on them

2 times weekly for over a year. So, I would guess it was the ALA as it never

happened again. D

>

> Diane, could the reaction have been a healing crisis? Been there and done

> that (not with ALA) and I must say it was NOT pleasant. I've since learned

> to take baby steps - I make small changes gradually over time to avoid a

> toxin overload.

>

> Jeri

>

> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM, dianebolton52 <dianebolton@...>wrote:

>

> >: When I was at my sickest with mold exposure I could not tolerate ALA

> > IVs at all. I did one of them and had a terrible reaction and never did

> > another. I am glad they worked for you , but what works for one person

> > does not always work for another. D

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I was exposed to Aspergillus,Penicillium,Trichoderma,Stachy and

> Cladasporium, we had a real little toxic party going on in our house. I too

> could not walk across the room before I went through detox, but now I have

> built up a little more energy and can get around ok most of the time. The

> racing heart and palpitations, what did your doctor say about them?? mine

> won't go away and we have been moldfree for over 2 yrs now. My husband and

> 12yr old daughter also have the racing heart.

>

__________________________________________

If you are going to a doctor's office for detox,

AND IF he doesn't fully appreciate exactly HOW mold can make people sick (i.e.

- he hasn't screened you for HLA-DR-DBQ susceptibility, checked MSH, and MMP( at

a minimum),

AND IF he also has a nasty old building down south,

AND IF you go take a shower in the women's shower AND look for moldy spots in

the lowest ceiling areas of the women's shower.................

AND IF you look carefully around your doctor's office for clean filters, signs

of clean duct covers, etc., etc., etc.

you just might possibly find that your doctor's office COULD possibly have some

mold in it.

Do NOT assume that every doctor you go to has a clean mold free office unless

you GRILL them about it.

Even my doc treating me for mold illness has a pretty clean office, BUT it has

shared air space above the ceiling tiles, AND the land lord did not insulate the

building. AND, my mold sentinel friend gets sick when she goes in the lab next

door to the doctor's office for blood draws.

My heart palpitations did NOT go away until I could get at least one full week

in a totally mold free environment. Until then, nothing helped it, in my

particular situation.

Untreated or partially treated mold illness ( or previously treated with current

unknown exposure) can result in a terrible fitness level -

Reference Chapter 9 (I think) in __Mold Warriors__ as it relates to low VEGF and

capillary hypoperfusion, poor oxygenation of the body, and poor circulation. If

your doctors don't understand how mold relates to these issues, they are missing

a big part of the picture for someone who has confirmed mold illness.

I have also found it useful to time my episodes of palpitations to recent visits

to nasty mold doctor's offices, restaurants, auto repair shops, etc. I have

even been able to time my " down " days related to the last exposure.

If your body FEELS like it has had mold exposure, it probably has!! Check to

see if you are truly mold-free. Never let your guard down. I cleaned up my

house, but still get exposures when I just go run errands.

It is possible to get better from mold illness.

CSM (cholestyramine), LDN (low dose naltrexone), and actos are just a few ways

to help it.

Take care,

Jolly

[Guest guest]

why were u unable to walk across the room, wendy?  was it the intense fatigue,

or something else too?  i was the same way----only much worse.  write me

privately, & i'll explain.

victoria

From: jolly_ave <jolly.ave@...>

Subject: [] Re: Heart palpitations and Tachycardia

Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:35 AM

 

>

> I was exposed to Aspergillus, Penicillium, Trichoderma, Stachy and

> Cladasporium, we had a real little toxic party going on in our house. I too

> could not walk across the room before I went through detox, but now I have

> built up a little more energy and can get around ok most of the time. The

> racing heart and palpitations, what did your doctor say about them?? mine

> won't go away and we have been moldfree for over 2 yrs now. My husband and

> 12yr old daughter also have the racing heart.

>

____________ _________ _________ _________ ___

If you are going to a doctor's office for detox,

AND IF he doesn't fully appreciate exactly HOW mold can make people sick (i.e. -

he hasn't screened you for HLA-DR-DBQ susceptibility, checked MSH, and MMP( at a

minimum),

AND IF he also has a nasty old building down south,

AND IF you go take a shower in the women's shower AND look for moldy spots in

the lowest ceiling areas of the women's shower...... ......... ..

AND IF you look carefully around your doctor's office for clean filters, signs

of clean duct covers, etc., etc., etc.

you just might possibly find that your doctor's office COULD possibly have some

mold in it.

Do NOT assume that every doctor you go to has a clean mold free office unless

you GRILL them about it.

Even my doc treating me for mold illness has a pretty clean office, BUT it has

shared air space above the ceiling tiles, AND the land lord did not insulate the

building. AND, my mold sentinel friend gets sick when she goes in the lab next

door to the doctor's office for blood draws.

My heart palpitations did NOT go away until I could get at least one full week

in a totally mold free environment. Until then, nothing helped it, in my

particular situation.

Untreated or partially treated mold illness ( or previously treated with current

unknown exposure) can result in a terrible fitness level -

Reference Chapter 9 (I think) in __Mold Warriors__ as it relates to low VEGF and

capillary hypoperfusion, poor oxygenation of the body, and poor circulation. If

your doctors don't understand how mold relates to these issues, they are missing

a big part of the picture for someone who has confirmed mold illness.

I have also found it useful to time my episodes of palpitations to recent visits

to nasty mold doctor's offices, restaurants, auto repair shops, etc. I have even

been able to time my " down " days related to the last exposure.

If your body FEELS like it has had mold exposure, it probably has!! Check to see

if you are truly mold-free. Never let your guard down. I cleaned up my house,

but still get exposures when I just go run errands.

It is possible to get better from mold illness.

CSM (cholestyramine) , LDN (low dose naltrexone), and actos are just a few ways

to help it.

Take care,

Jolly

[Guest guest]

You will have to google for it, Dr Burton Berkson. Unless a Dr is set up for it,

it is nothing they can write a script for it, you would have to find a Dr on the

east coast who does it.

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Stress test? I could not walk across the street for months after the moly

> > > house, and I still have severe fatigue after mold issues. I think ALA IV's

> > > will cure all those issues

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In <% 40groups.

com>,

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

When I was doing the ALA IV 2x week for a month, they started me on a low

dose and then built up(can't remember the dosage-sorry) when we went up to

the third step, I had a horrible reaction and they had to slow the drip way

down and bring it back down to the second step again. They said at the time

that you have to build up your body's tolerance especially when you you are

that ill and at that time I was very ill. ALA is supposed to have amazing

results in reversing the damage to organs, I think Dr L had said they had

been using it at Cedars Sinai NY and had avoided many transplants by using

the ALA.

Take care.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM, dianebolton52 <dianebolton@...>wrote:

>

>

> It was my very first ALA IV. Continued the IVs without ALA and did fine on

> them 2 times weekly for over a year. So, I would guess it was the ALA as it

> never happened again. D

>

>

>

> >

> > Diane, could the reaction have been a healing crisis? Been there and done

> > that (not with ALA) and I must say it was NOT pleasant. I've since

> learned

> > to take baby steps - I make small changes gradually over time to avoid a

> > toxin overload.

> >

> > Jeri

> >

> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM, dianebolton52 <dianebolton@...>wrote:

>

> >

> > >: When I was at my sickest with mold exposure I could not tolerate

> ALA

> > > IVs at all. I did one of them and had a terrible reaction and never did

> > > another. I am glad they worked for you , but what works for one

> person

> > > does not always work for another. D

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I trust you are not referring to Dr Lieberman and his clinic who were able

to give me back my life. Dr Lieberman knows a great deal about mold illness

and truly understands how it destroys your health. As for CSM and Actos,

they did absolutely nothing for me or our family. We have thrown away

everything that was in our moldy house so we are 100% mold free in our

home-I cannot unfortunately control outside of the home.

For a Physician who doesn't understand mold illness,he was able to secure

one of the largest verdicts in the country based on his testimony-so I guess

at least a jury of his peers thought maybe he knew a little..... Please

don't bash any physician who is helping people, if you didn't have a good

experience-ok but Dr L has helped thousands of people get better after

mold-my family for one.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:35 PM, jolly_ave <jolly.ave@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I was exposed to Aspergillus,Penicillium,Trichoderma,Stachy and

> > Cladasporium, we had a real little toxic party going on in our house. I

> too

> > could not walk across the room before I went through detox, but

[Guest guest]

Where do you live? Have you thoght that you could have Lyme and someof the

co-infections that come with it like Babesia that causes the same symptoms that

you have? Do you live in the country? Do you have pets? horses? Fungus and Lyme

like to live together and they help each other. It is quite common to get both

it is just not heard of by many. Parasites in your heart can also cause that.

For me using ozone in the ears, vagina, water, has helped a lot because it kills

almost everything. I do not have an ozone sauna but that is the best to have. It

is costly to buy the equipment although at first you can do it the cheaper way

and then build up to the a better system. Dr Saul Pressman wrote on the net " the

story of ozone " that you might want to check. It has been used in Europe for

over 40 years by doctors and clinics. You just have to learn the right way of

doing it. I am talking about medical grade ozone not the air purifier that are

sold.

Dr Phillpot also has strong medical magnets that are used for the heart. It

helps mine when I wear it in my bra.

EWOT-excercise with oxygen therapy has also helped a lot. These pathogens hate

oxygen.

Hope you get better.

cathy

> >

> > I was exposed to Aspergillus,Penicillium,Trichoderma,Stachy and

> > Cladasporium, we had a real little toxic party going on in our house. I too

[Guest guest]

Forgot to tell you that Dr Sherry book " detoxify or die " gives a lot of

good information on how to deal with these types of things. It is a great book.

The heart is extremelly sensitive and will react when it is allergic to

something. HAve you thoght of doing NAET? It is a way of getting rid of the

allergies. I have done it for my heart. My heart does the same thing as yours

for mold, dust, gasoline, and other chemicals. Getting the NAET treatments

helped a lot. Also the use of GLutathione which your liver needs to detoxify

from these pollutants and pathogens effects helps a lot. I take it liquid and

via a nebulizer. You have to get a prescription for the nebulizer part. Some

people do GLutathione ivs and they are the best but you have to go to doctors

office and pay more. The nebulizer is slower but does the same in the long run.

Infrared saunas are also quite helpful.

I used to live in the EAst coast surrounded by mold everywhere. Moving to the

Eastern part of Wa where is it high semi- dessert has helped a lot. I do use air

purifiers because we live in an older home that was not properly ventilated for

years. We had to do a lot of renovations. It is a lot better.

We have to remember that one allergy begets another. Eventually we will have

other allergies because our bodies are trying to tell us something. We have to

build up our bodies when we go through these types of attacks. My children also

went through it when we lived in the EAst coast.

take care

cathy

> >

> > I was exposed to Aspergillus,Penicillium,Trichoderma,Stachy and

> > Cladasporium, we had a real little toxic party going on in our hous

[Guest guest]

>

> I trust you are not referring to Dr Lieberman and his clinic who were able

> to give me back my life.

>

____________________________

My apology if that was perhaps a bit too accusatory.

In my experience, if I am still having the heart pounding episodes, I have had

some kind of mold exposure. It seems to be everywhere! Once I began to look

closely at the places I go to, I found mold odors and/or visible mold growth in

the following locations:

1. our (former) pediatrician's office -- was actually the worst of the list!!

2. my (former) GP's office

3. my church in the social hall and vestibule

4. our local Golden Corral

5. the children's school--including the front office and even their classrooms,

the art room and music room -- right across the hall from the church nursery!!

5. Wal Mart

6. K-Mart

7. two local auto repair shops

8. my local Publix

.........you get the picture.

In addition, I know I have some cross-contamination in my car. So, I will have

to, at a minimum, change the cabin air filter frequently with a filter that has

a tight fitting seal, steam clean the carpet and seats, and have the coils (the

thing with fins, I guess?) of the A/C in the front and rear cleaned out. This

might even have to be repeated.

It is quite possible that doing one protocol first helped you get started on

your way to getting better very slowly, but it wasn't really perceivable, as you

started out truly very ill. Adding the second protocol after the first one had

done its thing possibly accelerated healing. Probably adding your own ideas to

the rest of that has helped even more. Throwing in a few more vitamins and

hyperbaric oxygen therapy could really kick it up.

Last, one thing that might be easy to overlook in mold illness I have found, is

vitamin B-12 especially. Somehow, being sick from mold depletes it from the

body, and once the body is sick, it has a hard time converting our most common

(at least in the regular stores out there) B-12 (cyanocobalamin) to the ones

our body needs and uses---two in particular being methylcobalamin and

adenosylcobalamin. Being short on B-12 can contribute to heart palpitations.

Hope these ideas are useful. They have helped in my own experience.

[Guest guest]

and others who have used ALA IVs:

I get two IVs a week from a doc who does have ALA available. I understand that

ALA is a great detoxifier and I take it orally. Most the people at my clinic

use the IV form for arthritis and they do two in a day. I can't find anything

online about what Dr. Lieberman actually uses it for. Dr. Berkson seems to use

it for Hepatitis C and other liver disease. I have chemical sensitivity and

mold toxicity. At the moment I have unremitting heart palpitations which I

often get when my thyroid levels are off (which is often). The talk in this

thread on palpitations turned to a discussion of ALA IVs. Did you use ALA for

heart palps? For general detox? I can start the IVs today but I want to make

sure that I know why I'm doing it. Thank you. Anne

>

> , how many ALA IV's are we talking about? Dr Lieberman is a wonderful Dr,

but it is Dr Berkson who has the years of experience with ALA, and the one who

first used it. I took it for 6 months-2 IVs a week-1000mg in one day .After that

I took them when I had the cash. He would like me to continue the treatment.

Some people who come from far away get IV's 2 a day, all week, and come back

once a month for a week. So Just a few IV's are not going to help-or they will

help, but not give a cure that will stick. IT is such a wonderful therapy, one

that is so good for every part of your bady, if I had the money I would still be

getting 2 a week.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you . This doctor did not start slow and then build up, but I do not

remember the dosage of the ALA. I was also taking it orally so I think you are

right, the dosage was most likely too high for the first one. I wish he would

have explained that as they sound like they are good overall. I after that just

stayed with the Vit C and gluatathione. Glad they worked out for you. You said

you had 2 a week, how long did you do them? Thanks D

>

> Hi Diane,

>

> When I was doing the ALA IV 2x week for a month, they started me on a low

> dose and then built up(can't remember the dosage-sorry) when we went up to

> the third step,

[Guest guest]

Whether it is Magnesium oil or Nigari they both are Magnesium Chloride which is

better for the muscles and the heart since the heart is a muscle. I have been

using Magnesium oil that my doctor wanted me to try. Look that up as well. It is

probably more concentrated and already made for you as compared to Nigari where

you have to dissolve the crystals in the water and figure out how strong it is.

I put some on the area of my heart as well. Epsom salts is really good for

detoxify but for the body buil-up the magnesium chloride is the best. The book

mentioned really explains it well too. Great book.

cathy

> >

> > Anytime you have heart symptoms you need to check into magnesium. Check the

book Transdermal Magnesium by Mark Sircus. excellent and a real eye opener. We

are all deficient in it and it mag has over 300 functions in our body!. You can

get Nigari from the internet in 5 pound bad for eight dollars and use it for

magnesium chloride for foot baths, for baths, as a spray for your body- great to

muscle pain. A

>