Re: Re: on the topic of AS & sixth sense and/or knowing things, etc.

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Ummeee,

I havent learned your name yet--

I would feel honored if this happens to me in my next relationship! He loved your idea so much, he copied it! Actually, I just finished reading a section of Liane holiday Willey's book, Pretending to be Normal, in which she said she used to take on the personas of other people at will, without understanding why she could do it or what was really involved, so she must have done a bit of this, too.

AS, but great with names.

Subject: Re: on the topic of AS & sixth sense and/or knowing things, etc.To: aspires-relationships Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:22 PM

--Hi allI find in my situation I (NT) am the intuitive one who most often picks up on nuances, subtlties or hidden subliminal messages . My spouse (AS) often quotes me as if those are his own thoughts. I even think he waits a good while so my inclination is almost poo-pooed and dropped. Then he comes in as the brillant seer. My children will call me and say...what did you tell him...he sounds just like you.ummee in a light mood today. thank God.- >

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Hi thanks for your cheering me on. I will miss some of your e mails but I am gone. I'm in a flush mode and this is after some time of my trying to nudge into conversations here on aspires. Again, thanksPrincess wrote: Ummeee, I havent learned your name yet-- I would feel honored if this

happens to me in my next relationship! He loved your idea so much, he copied it! Actually, I just finished reading a section of Liane holiday Willey's book, Pretending to be Normal, in which she said she used to take on the personas of other people at will, without understanding why she could do it or what was really involved, so she must have done a bit of this, too. AS, but great with names. From: ummeee1952 <ummeee1952>Subject: Re: on the topic of AS & sixth sense and/or knowing things, etc.To: aspires-relationships Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:22 PM --Hi allI find in my

situation I (NT) am the intuitive one who most often picks up on nuances, subtlties or hidden subliminal messages . My spouse (AS) often quotes me as if those are his own thoughts. I even think he waits a good while so my inclination is almost poo-pooed and dropped. Then he comes in as the brillant seer. My children will call me and say...what did you tell him...he sounds just like you.ummee in a light mood today. thank God.- >

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Hi again well this only show how email can complicate communication. I wasn't referring to you , , as I found your response to me to be pleasant and appropriate . You admitted you didn't know my name, however the prior email saw me as a predatory virtual stalker. I am again going to sit back a bit and review my aspires experience to see whether or not this is even the forum that is best to discuss AS/NT communication difficulties. With some of us taking thing literally and others trying to relate period, I have some issues I am needing to have Islah Umar wrote: Hi thanks for your cheering me on. I will miss some of your e mails but I am gone. I'm in a flush mode and this is after some time of my trying to nudge into conversations here on aspires. Again, thanksPrincess <creativelywired> wrote: Ummeee, I havent learned your name yet-- I would feel honored if this happens to me in my next relationship! He loved your idea so much, he copied it! Actually, I just finished reading a section of Liane holiday Willey's book, Pretending to be

Normal, in which she said she used to take on the personas of other people at will, without understanding why she could do it or what was really involved, so she must have done a bit of this, too. AS, but great with names. From: ummeee1952 <ummeee1952>Subject: Re: on the topic of AS & sixth sense and/or knowing things, etc.To: aspires-relationships Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:22 PM --Hi allI find in my situation I (NT) am the intuitive one who most often picks up on nuances, subtlties or hidden subliminal messages . My spouse (AS) often quotes me as if those are his own thoughts. I even

think he waits a good while so my inclination is almost poo-pooed and dropped. Then he comes in as the brillant seer. My children will call me and say...what did you tell him...he sounds just like you.ummee in a light mood today. thank God.- >

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Hi,

My NT husband does this also. It drives me nuts! I would write more but we are leaving out the door right now! I'll be back later. :-) Jennie

Re: on the topic of AS & sixth sense and/or knowing things, etc.

--Hi allI find in my situation I (NT) am the intuitive one who most often picks up on nuances, subtlties or hidden subliminal messages . My spouse (AS) often quotes me as if those are his own thoughts. I even think he waits a good while so my inclination is almost poo-pooed and dropped. Then he comes in as the brillant seer. My children will call me and say...what did you tell him...he sounds just like you.ummee in a light mood today. thank God.- In aspires-relationships , "Jennie Unknown" wrote:>> Hi all> > We were talking a while back about AS folk knowing things about others. Some said they do know and some said they never know. With varying degrees in the don't knows... like they knew some of the time or knew with some people but not others. > > I just had this experience again of knowing something and it got me to thinking.... Each and every time I know something about my husband either why he is doing what he is doing or what he is really thinking he always denies it the first several times.... even though he knows that I'm nearly always correct once he decides to be honest with himself. The thing is, I always see the things that are buried deep and he (or other people) don't want others to see. It is logical to assume therefore that they would instinctively deny me being correct since they don't want others to know, they don't even want to know it themselves. I have noticed in other areas of my life that what is obvious to normal folk is the most difficult thing in the world to me but what is extremely difficult to others is easy to me. I am wondering if AS folk have the ability to see what is considered hidden to NT folk but is not hidden to us. But when we speak of it we are told we are wrong, incorrect, or worse... stupid, arrogant, rude, etc. I mean imagine for a minute. Here is this innocent NT person going about their life, they have an AS friend/spouse/partner who sees something they (the NT person) have hidden so well they don't even know it about themselves. The AS person thinks it is obvious and that the whole world can see it so they talk about it right out.... naturally the NT person responds instinctively to self protect (denies) because this is something they have hidden even from themselves... Anyone still with me? This is what happens consistently with my husband and with other NT people in my life to the extent that I have learned to not say what I see unless the person gives me some really obvious verbal clues that they are open to thinking about the subject. Still I often put my foot in my mouth in conversation because there are always things I think are so utterly and completely obvious to the extent I don't even think about it all, to me it's like I say "Joe has his shoes on." and suddenly Joe is really mad that I told everyone he had his shoes on.> > Maybe AS people are not shut off from non verbals we are just getting different (deeper) non verbals?? What if we have become convinced we get no non verbals because there is almost never any positive feedback to show we were correct? > > Also this would play along with the notion that many of us think that we have little to no subconscious... > > Thoughts anyone?> > Jennie AS>

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Islah,

I think you will learn a lot here, in that you wil learn the difficulties that many of us AS folk have in understanding the greater picture. I believe that the "stalker" think may well have been teasing, but it is not the best tease, because you did not take it as a joke. it can be hard for us to gauge that, and indeed, I have made errors like these. An AS would have assumed that you would see that since it says how to get the internet address, then it means that the first part was just kidding. I see the other side of this, but only because I have friends who are Middle Eastern, and know independently that this kind of teasing is not appropriate. I did not take it as seriously when I read it, but feared that you might. I would be very surprised if it were meant seriously, but if you ask the author, since he is AS, he will almost surely tell you.

When you mentioned not knowing the name, I did think it might have been partly me, because I have not read your introduction yet- i will try to find it! I am glad that you will stay for awhile.

Another great way to nudge conversations is to start a new post (the button that says that at the bottom of this page, which took me weeks to find, I think!).

From: ummeee1952 <ummeee1952yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: [aspires-relationsh ips] Re: on the topic of AS & sixth sense and/or knowing things, etc.To: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:22 PM

--Hi allI find in my situation I (NT) am the intuitive one who most often picks up on nuances, subtlties or hidden subliminal messages . My spouse (AS) often quotes me as if those are his own thoughts. I even think he waits a good while so my inclination is almost poo-pooed and dropped. Then he comes in as the brillant seer. My children will call me and say...what did you tell him...he sounds just like you.ummee in a light mood today. thank God.- >