Re: Question for Dr. Thrasher

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Amen, .

From: <brianc8452@...>

Subject: [] Question for Dr. Thrasher

, " Ph.D. Jack Thrasher " <toxicologist1@...>

Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 6:49 PM

 

How do we figure out what's causing our illness, and how do we

get proper medical care?

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From: " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@ msn.com>

Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:53:51 AM

Subject: Re:Fw: [] Asthma

Dear Members: here we go again. Everyone is assuming that the health problems

results from molds. There several different biocontaminants inside of water

damaged structures. These are as follows:

[Guest guest]

The first step to a diagnosis is to properly identify the contaminants in your

building. This means culturing for both bacteria and molds. You must take the

bacteria and molds to the species level. Also, take sufficient samples to test

for mycotoxins. Once you have this information, then you will be able to direct

your physician to do the appropriate diagnsosi for the organisms. I will give

you an example below. I have been working with the family physician, the

veterinarian and the industrial hygienist regarding a family in Hawaii.

Interestingly, the industrial hygienist did not know what to do until I stepped

into the matter with the insistance of the home owner.

I have been working with a family in hawaii: Father, mother, boy and a girl and

the wife is preganat. So far the diagnsositic tests have shown:

1. Aflatoxins and ochratoxins in nasal secretions (they all have chronic

sinusitis)

2. Aflatoxins and ochratoxins in their urine samples.

3. Environmental (bulk samples) have revealed aflatoxins and ochratoxins in the

environment, elevated endotoxins, several species of Aspergillus, Penicllium and

gram negative and positive bacteria. A positive ERMI test. Bulk samples came

from the crawl space, wall cavity and various rooms of the home.

4. The family is seeing Dr. Kaye Kilburn for neurological testing. The father

has multiple areas of neurological dysfunction. The rest of the family will be

undergoing the same testing in the next couple of weeks.

5. Interestingly their pet dog is extremely lethargic, sleepling 23 hours a

day. Urine test on the dog showed the same mycotoxins as the owners. The dog

contantly licked its paws to the point where they were soaking wet. The

treating Vet said that paw licking in canines indicates the presence to

something on the paws that the dog has detected. Paw licking in canines is

taught in Verterinary school of one means to aid in differential diagnosis.

Excessive paw licking indicates that the dog has detected or is detecting

something foreign and toxic on its paws.

6. I suggest that all of you become educated in the complexity of damp indoor

spaces. There is a symposium on molds and health edited by Dr. Kilburn that

will be out in Toxicology and Environmental Health in the Sept/Oct issue, 2009.

I have a paper in this symposium about the complexity of indoor spaces.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

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[Guest guest]

Interestingly their pet dog is extremely lethargic, sleepling 23 hours a

day. Urine test on the dog showed the same mycotoxins as the owners. The dog

contantly licked its paws to the point where they were soaking wet. The

treating Vet said that paw licking in canines indicates the presence to

something on the paws that the dog has detected. Paw licking in canines is

taught in Verterinary school of one means to aid in differential diagnosis.

Excessive paw licking indicates that the dog has detected or is detecting

something foreign and toxic on its paws.

Fascinating about the dog, our Lab would constantly lick her paws and then

she would run them down over her face and snout, we thought it had to do

with her nosebleeds??

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. <

toxicologist1@...> wrote:

>The first step to a diagnosis is to properly identify the contaminants in

> your building. This means culturing for both bacteria and molds.

[Guest guest]

, Dogs and cats will lick their paws and run them over their face, to wash

their face. That's very common but excessive amount could mean something. It

could also be nervous issue or area bothers her. Cats will lick themselves alot

if they get flea bites, just like we would itch exessively if our skin irritated

us. I don't know if dogs lick their bodies since I have not ever had one but I

have seen them lick their faces.

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>Fascinating about the dog, our Lab would constantly lick her paws and then

> she would run them down over her face and snout, we thought it had to do

> with her nosebleeds??

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Hi Barb,

Yes of course I know, we have had dogs for many years but Remy would do it

much more than that, she died last year from her exposure. She ended up

having a large mass in her sinuses and our vet said after the autopsy that

she had died from mycotoxicoses (a recognized disease for animals) which

resulted in developing a cancerous mass, why they can't believe it can

happen to humans too-just one more contradiction in recognizing our

disease!!

Thanks,

.

[Guest guest]

Barb: Excessive licking of paws indicates that something is wrong and the

something is not necessarily fleas. Excessive licking coupled with lethargy

means something is wrong with the dogs and probably cats environment. This

could be molds, bacteria, pesticides, new carpets or any of a myriad of toxic

situations present in a home. If a canine is allergic to grass (which can

contain a variety of toxins) then it will excessively lick its paws.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

Trauma Specialist

sandracrawley@...

916-745-4703 - Off

775-309-3994 - Cell

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