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> I would like to know what doc does this? I am still searching for a

doctor to test me. I asked my doctor about the Shoemaker tests and he

won't do them. I would rather go to a doctor that knows what to test

for. > > Thanks > Ann

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http://www.biotoxin.info/docs/ConsultationPreWork.pdf

When my regular

doctor was resistant, I took her this form already filled out, and told

her that I intended to go see Dr. Shoemaker, and that those tests have

to be ordered first before he will accept you as a patient. Once she

had that letter in hand, then my insurance (BCBS) had no problem paying

for the labs. Also, once she had that letter in hand, she felt more

calm about NOT being the one to treat me! So, you could tell your doc

that just three tests could rule OUT mold illness - HLA, MMP9, and MSH.

I think at Labcorp, these all add up to maybe $600. Not a bad price for

ruling out an illness quickly, and for getting a LOT of piece of mind.

AND, if mold illness is NOT your problem, and you know from the tests

that you do NOT have a double-whammy mold susceptible gene, then you can

pursue a lot of other treatments and options SAFELY. If you are

HLA-susceptible, then you really need to be careful about where you go,

as every new location you visit could be moldy and could throw you down

for another three to four days. When you are really really sick,

getting thrown down from a mold exposure is just a little too rough. At

the time I took my doc the form, I did intend to go see Dr. Shoemaker.

You can even call his office and they will send by mail the new patient

packet to you, which you could have in hand when you go to the doctor.

I have to add that Mold Illness or biotoxin illness has an established

muliple-times PEER-REVIEWED case definition.

http://www.ghsair.org/doc.pdf <http://www.ghsair.org/doc.pdf > Pages

37 - 39 are helpful. Maybe print the whole letter for the doctor.

Here is another document to print with case definition included also.

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/files/ShoeNTP_12_06_07w_attach.pdf

<http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/files/ShoeNTP_12_06_07w_attach.pdf > Pages

88-92 are to the point. Last, I have printed this whole thing, and

gave it to some docs spiral bound to have as a brief reference.

http://biotoxin.info/docs/GordonMD_ILADS_Biotoxins_RS_9_5_08.pdf

<http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/files/ShoeNTP_12_06_07w_attach.pdf > Most

docs I know don't have time to read __Mold Warriors__. It is way to

long, and really could be written better. However, these other

documents are more clear, and include case definitons that are easy for

even me, in my mold-illness induced brain-fogged state, to understand.

More importantly, they are also OBJECTIVE. You have HLA-DR-DBQ

susceptibility, low MSH, high MMP9, then you have mold illness. It

isn't an opinion how you feel. From what I know of your own situation,

having a hurricane damaged home that did not get fixed for three months

is definitely " potential for exposure. " You definitely have

multi-system, multi-symptom illness, and you may still have to work on

" absence of confounders. " I hope you can get to feeling better soon.

All of the pain and suffering is so needless, especially when you KNOW

you have been living in a water-damaged home. I did do lots of

photos, and SOME mold testing, so I could avoid the accusation of being

crazy or hysterical. No.....I have objective irrefutable evidence that

there was presence of mold making me sick. It has taken me some time to

find all these sources, and they are all much more succinct and powerful

than a very long 700 page book.

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Ann, maybe you can have your doctor consult with Dr. Shoemaker.

Barth

www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html

SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

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abn> Does it make a difference to find out what mold toxins and person has in

them? I would like to test to see if the mold is my problem for sure.

abn> I would like to know what doc does this? I am still searching for a doctor

to test me. I asked my doctor about the Shoemaker tests and he won't do them. I

would rather go to a doctor that knows

abn> what to test for.

abn> Thanks

abn> Ann

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Hi Jolly

thank you for all of the great info how did you get Dr. Shoemaker to write that

report?

thanks

Lee

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> > I would like to know what doc does this? I am still searching for a

> doctor to test me. I asked my doctor about the Shoemaker tests and he

> won't do them. I would rather go to a doctor that knows what to test

> for. > > Thanks > Ann

>

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> http://www.biotoxin.info/docs/ConsultationPreWork.pdf

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> Hi Jolly

> thank you for all of the great info how did you get Dr. Shoemaker to write

that report?

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I found it in my research. I read lots of different blogs, IAQ newsletters,

indoor environments stuff, health letters, and so forth.

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