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I just collapsed from exhaustion reading this, !

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PB> At 10:39 AM 5/26/2009, you wrote:

>> " mycotoxins, if any, will go away in time. " I have NEVER read that

>>before, can you elaborate? How much time? If that is so, why are

>>there so many of us that cannot return to our homes after exposure

>>without severe reaction? I sure hope you are right, as that would

>>give me hope to go back to my home one day. D

PB> I can now clean a home free of all mold, spores and mold " by-products. "

PB> By products is what many of us are also sensitive to. Carl gave an long

PB> list of what these by products are in the Ozone thread. Basicly, dead

PB> mold is still dangerous, from it's " parts, " like cell walls, DNA, RNA, and

PB> other molecules that were inside the mold colony.

PB> What I have found is cleaning twice is needed. And I am not talking

PB> the clean you typically do. I'm talking industrial level, at least for the

PB> second, final cleaning. Why twice? The mold byproducts ***coat***

PB> EVERYTHING, and cleaning the ceiling first is wise, then walls, then

PB> the inside of closets (including the ceiling in the closet, and the walls,

PB> including the inside of the doors), and finally the floor.

PB> However, by the time you have finished the floor, the ceiling has gotten

PB> a faint coating on it from all the other items being cleaned. So, an

PB> initial quick cleaning to remove all " dust " and " particles " from all

PB> surfaces, vacuum very well, changing/cleaning the brush bristles

PB> as they will spread mold by product molecules to everything they

PB> touch.

PB> Then the industrial cleaning is done with TSP with cotton towels, lots

PB> of them, dozens. Why? A fresh cloth " surface " is need for each and

PB> every wipe. Ditto when rinsing. And drying. So, hundreds of cotton

PB> towels ought to be used.

PB> And before you do even the first cleaning, all the window sills must

PB> be cleaned, including the bottom sill's water drain outlets to the outside.

PB> Yes, that's right, you need to get the window tracks clean, including

PB> the top and side, and even remove the windows and clean them all

PB> over. Why? Air pressure takes dust into the cracks between the

PB> window and the sill and accumulates there. When the wind direction

PB> reverses, it blows back into the home.

PB> The doors all have a bottom riser (I forget it's name), and these must

PB> be removed (screwed down), and LOOK at all that DIRT!!! Even the

PB> outside doors must be done.

PB> And the door itself must be cleaned, the top of it and the hinge side as

PB> well. And the door must be removed, and the bottom of it cleaned.

PB> The hinges need to be clean when the door is off them.

PB> Rolling closet doors need to be removed and their bottoms and tops

PB> cleaned. The tracks they roll in need to be cleaned, both bottom and

PB> top, and the top is very hard.

PB> Sliding doors get the same treatment. Remove them to clean them

PB> including the top, that is VERY DIRTY.

PB> Shower doors must be removed, and sliding door tracks need to be

PB> cleaned, and it's very hard to reach there!!!

PB> See, INDUSTRIAL cleaning.

PB> And after you have cleaned it twice, go in and glue all the wall to floor

PB> joints, and inspect under the stove, and dishwasher. Glue the cabinets

PB> to the walls, particularly under the sink, inside the cabinet, as that space

PB> under the sink cabinet bottom is DEADLY DANGEROUS MOLDY, and

PB> it must be sealed up, the mold will die from lack of moisture.

PB> And all adjoining cabinets must be glued to the wall, as the space

PB> under the kitchen cabinets does not have wood dividers, and if they

PB> do, they leak air between them.

PB> Hmm, you might want to glue before cleaning. Why? The gluing

PB> exposes mold air spaces to the main air space of the room.

PB> Then, do it all again in 3-4 months.

PB> That is, inspect all glue joints, for holes (there will be holes, as the

PB> glue shrinks and they open up), missed joints, ... and clean it all

PB> again.

PB> Oh, and do not forget as you move the furniture back in, it must

PB> be cleaned first. All over, especially the feet.

PB> And I have only list about 1/3rd of what needs to be cleaned.

PB> I do this to every home I move into. It takes about 2 days in an

PB> empty home. If you have possessions, then it's about 1 room a day.

PB> You can do 2 rooms, but after one room, all that arm reaching will have

PB> you sleeping early.

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