Re: How to protect from mandatory swine flu vaccination - Postpone it!

[Guest guest]

Look!!! im tired of reading all this stuff about forced vaccinations. It sounds

like a fear campaign and that pisses me off. How to avoid forced

vaccinations?????

Just refuse to get it done!!!!!!!!!! Even if your ^$$ is dragged off to jail,

fight back. Refuse refuse refuse refuse no matter what. This is America and im

willing to fight for my/our freedoms.

LETS ALL AGREE JUST TO SAY NO, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. JUST REFUSE TO HAVE IT

DONE. SWINE FLU, SHMU FLU, BS FLU WHATEVER!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. LETS ALL JUST

REFUSE IT PERIOD!!!!!!

WHO IS WITH ME???????? NOTHING IS BEING PUT IN MY BODY WITHOUT MY

PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!

elias

p.s. www.moviesfoundonline.com/zeitgeist.php    free movie must see about this

sort of forced vaccinations. first 40 minutes is BS but rest is a must see if

you really want to konw the truth!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

>Forced? Are you kidding me? For one thing I have MCS and would not subject my

body to toxins in a shot like this. For another-forced? This is America buddy,

nobody forces you to get a shot.

I do agree however that school age children should not be required to receive

this (I think New Jersey is making it mandatory for one). But I do think that as

a US citizen one can object to this. And as my daughter, the pediatrician, tells

me-it would be a miracle if every Mom actually showed up with their kids every

time a shot was required.

> Postponing is the best solution I have thought of. Tactis below.

>

> Background: Back in 1976 during that swine flu scare only 1 child

> die of the flu, the other several hundred deaths were from the

> vaccine, until the vaccine was withdrawn.

>

> My recommendation is to do one of the following, where the basic

> premise is to " postpone " a mandatory vaccination. It does not

> have to be done " that day " , at school, or anywhere else. Argue

> it will happen " tomorrow. " And after a doctor looks at the child.

> Say anything to get a postponement.

>

> 1) State the child's doctor, and will be making the

> decision and providing the vaccine.

>

> 2) State you do not want a " free " shot and will pay a doctor

> to do it later that week.

>

> 2) Lie - say a doctor already gave the child the vaccine.

>

> The problem is, the expected death rate per thousand child could

> be as high as 100, or 1 in 10 child will die, or suffer some terrible

> brain cognition ailment.

>

> So, delay tactics, several weeks or months, means the chances of survival

> improve to closer to 100% instead of only 90% chance of living through

> a swine flu vaccination.

>

> Keep in mind, the shot can always be given " tomorrow " . Or next week.

> And no one's health will be compromise. Your child should be the " last one "

> given a shot, in the entire neighborhood. After all the teachers, all the

> janitors, principal, and all the other child have their shot, your child

> can have their shot given at the doctor's office, not some line up at

> school.

>

> Hold your child out of school, for several days, weeks, until the death

> rate results come in is the general point.

>

[Guest guest]

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AMEN!

In , photoguys2003 <photoguys2003@...> wrote:

>

> Look!!! im tired of reading all this stuff about forced vaccinations. It

sounds like a fear campaign and that pisses me off. How to avoid forced

vaccinations?????

>

> Just refuse to get it done!!!!!!!!!! Even if your ^$$ is dragged off to jail,

fight back. Refuse refuse refuse refuse no matter what. This is America and im

willing to fight for my/our freedoms.

>

> LETS ALL AGREE JUST TO SAY NO, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. JUST REFUSE TO HAVE IT

DONE.

[Guest guest]

I know regardless of mandatory I will not have it given to me. My body, my

decision

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: photoguys2003 <photoguys2003@...>

LETS ALL AGREE JUST TO SAY NO, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. JUST REFUSE TO HAVE IT

DONE. SWINE FLU, SHMU FLU, BS FLU WHATEVER!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. LETS ALL JUST

REFUSE IT PERIOD!!!!!!

WHO IS WITH ME???????? NOTHING IS BEING PUT IN MY BODY WITHOUT MY PERMISSION!!

!!!!!!!

elias

[Guest guest]

I do not believe anyone is trying to create fear, just discuss the possibility

of such a situation.  Just read and be informed is all you can do.  Know your

rights.  You can discuss something without it becoming about fear.  You cannot

get all the facts in one place.  That is just not possible.  You can however

bring your findings to a table and discuss them without the fear.  Although the

fear for some is real and I would not judge them. That is how they feel and who

am I to tell them to feel any different.  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

In , photoguys2003 <photoguys2003@ ...> wrote:

>

> Look!!! im tired of reading all this stuff about forced vaccinations. It

sounds like a fear campaign

[Guest guest]

There are now two federal laws that permit mandatory vaccine declarations

and a third being considered. I know I read that here. I can post

the URLs that detail which Congressional Acts contained these written

laws. The state laws I am not concerned with. The swine flu is not

tested, nor FDA approved, and could not be for another 20 years,

unless fast tracked, and even then I want to be prepared. Why?

My concern is to be prepared to refuse, and have that knowledge on hand,

as when they declare a federal emergency and mandatory vaccination,

it could be the next day that you get lined up for a shot. That fast.

So, you need to know your rights now, not later, imho. YMMV.

This list is discussing this topic without ranting and raving, imo.

The list owners will limit any posts that go that route is my impression.

The list owners are allowing " informative " posting on this topic,

that is how to

be prepared. Why? Our list members are a vulnerable group to this swine

flu shot, our immune systems not likely able to withstand the assault

of yet another severe load, and so our risk is higher than the average

person.

We have barred discussion of the rumors, but do allow clarifications, like

at Obama's web site. So, posting URLs with short reasons to go read,

is much better than writing a long post. Why? None of us have the time

to spend on mere rumors. But real facts from real URLs that have the

authority of being a *.gov web site, now that is important to us.

So, while we had a flurry of posts a week or so ago, and it's calm now,

do expect near weekly updates and tidbits on this very important topic.

And yes, some people's posting style will seem 'fearful', and we should

bear with this, and not add " noise " to the list, about the topic not being

important, or the poster is silly to be fearful, or whatever.

Be positive, be supportive, and we will all get through any federal shenanigans

without any adverse impact to our health, nor our mental outlook, now, during

or after the fact.

I like this list as it's got a lot of mature posters on it, and very

skillful researchers.

Most subbers are waiting for a printable " form letter " to carry with us, that

clearly state the legal reasons why we will not have to have a mandatory shot.

Someone will come up with one, and post it for us. Then, I know I

will be " prepared. "

I'm even considering going to a doctor and have them create me such a letter.

Anything to " postpone " the shot, until the 'real safety' has been determined.

I'll be the last one given a shot. I call dibs on last in line!!!

I've also heard there is not enough shots to go around.

Also, I might already have had it. So, I'd be immune already.

There are also many homeopathic web pages of how to successfully

fight the ailment,

and even to prepare yourself for it, to prevent getting it.

My major tactic now is to " turn and run " from anyone coughing or sneezing.

I'm not embarrassed. Nor do I care how embarrassed my dramatic action

might embarrass the sniffer/sneezer.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . Yes, I will put through any new information on vaccine since there

are many here who are very sensitive, but I have not seen anything new coming

through on this topic for awhile. I don't speak for KC though. I've seen too

much repetition and side issues that were becoming argumentative.

>

>

> There are now two federal laws that permit mandatory vaccine declarations

> and a third being considered.

[Guest guest]

At 08:06 PM 8/20/2009, you wrote:

>Thanks . Yes, I will put through any new information on vaccine

>since there are many here who are very sensitive, but I have not

>seen anything new coming through on this topic for awhile. I don't

>speak for KC though. I've seen too much repetition and side issues

>that were becoming argumentative.

Typically, I would not add to the " noise " with a reply to a post

that lists what subtopics will be moderated with approval,

but I did want to thank you for keeping the noise down.

One thing we " readers " never see is just how much " work "

the moderators must do, make and keep a list of " high value " .

So, again thanks.

[Guest guest]

I am with you and think that this is very appropriate after having two

opportunistic infections from sick buildings - aspergillosis and actinomycosis,

and which a " slam-down " from a Levaquin reaction which has caused pain and

damage to almost all of my tendons and ligaments. Look up fluoroquinole injury.

Another massive coverup. It is in the Cipro family which is supposed to be given

to all of us in case of anthrax attacks. We will have a nation in wheelchairs

from spontanous Achilles (and other) tendon rupture.

If a person has mycotoxin bodily injury, then my opinionn is that nothing

further should compromise that individual and the recovery.

It is appropriate and should not be filtered out and timely as we know the

dangers of thimoseral and mercury which, just this week was found in just about

every fish tested. We need all the info we can get to stay alive and start

rebuilding our health.

Sickbuilding injured people need all the most current info to share and exchange

to stay away from what might make us sicker or even die. That enhances the value

of such a forum as this one.

Thank you.

[Guest guest]

At 08:16 AM 8/21/2009, you wrote:

>I am with you and think that this is very appropriate after

>having two opportunistic infections from sick buildings -

>aspergillosis and actinomycosis,

Wow, these are serious.

>and which a " slam-down " from a Levaquin reaction which has caused

>pain and damage to almost all of my tendons and ligaments.

Ouch. Sounds like some type of immune system storm, with localized swelling.

>Look up fluoroquinole injury. Another massive coverup.

I wish I had time. Right now I have another low temp.

Fluoride based drugs .... my opinion ... never get them in or on my body. Why?

From college chem I know fluoride is the most single dangerous element,

more than uranium, plutonium, chloride, arsenic, lead, etc. Why? Fluoride

is so active, that it destroys any molecule it touches. Imagine it's effect

upon the human body.

From my water fluoridation research all my knowledge was confirmed.

From my fluoride medicine research I found all of them have CDC side

effect histories that eclipse the side effect history of every drug that

came before them. By factors of 10 to 100. 10 times as many deaths

if not 100. 10 times more side effects. 10 times worse side effects.

Keep fluoride based drugs away from me. Guess what my advice to you would be?

>It is in the Cipro family which is supposed to be given to all of us

>in case of anthrax attacks.

Homeopathic remedies for anthrax have a higher treatment rate (by

some 1,000 percent)

from what I read.

>If a person has mycotoxin bodily injury, then my opinionn is that

>nothing further should compromise that individual and the recovery.

Yes, my viewpoint.

>Sickbuilding injured people need all the most current info to share

>and exchange to stay away from what might make us sicker or even

>die. That enhances the value of such a forum as this one.

What I like about this list, over other lists, is the number of posters whose

writing style is intended for the " survivor " , the brain fogged. Not that I am

always in that category. Other lists are all tech terms, lots of research

needed to understand the implications, and what actions to take, if any.

Some lists are just of the clueless. And many lists in between.

What I do recommend is finding 2-3 lists in " your " ailment area.

Do not just read Immune. Each year more lists are created, and

some are quite good. So, search for some more lists. Then when

that list raises an issue, and has an incomplete answer, post a

question here. Not that there is a guarantee we have the answer,

but we do want to know, at least the question.