Re: This is Reform? NY Times

[Guest guest]

I look at it like Americans have not yet reached their bottom. In other words we

still are not doing our homework and even worse getting our news from FOX not

the facts news stations.

I chuckle to myself as I have known for 30 years that all of this will lead to a

total collapse of our economy because when a society takes out the middleclass

as our dumbass country has done they take out the very customers that make and

keep the rich, rich. Big PhaRMA and the health insurance companies may be

laughing all the way to the bank but when they get there they are going to

realize their revenues are decreasing instead of increasing because no one can

afford healthcare. It will take them a long time to get it but get it they

will. It's similar to what happened during the Great Depression and prior to

the Great Compression when FDR kept taking the advice of Conservatives and of

course it didn't work then and it won't work now. We are in for some rough

times if the public option gets removed from the healthcare debate.

Incidentally in the healthcare industry 31% goes to administration with the bulk

of that going to denying claims. In addition at a minimum 15% goes to profits.

That a whopping 46% that doesn't go to patient care. I don't know about you but

I don't understand how it came to pass that companies can make a profit off the

sick and dying. It just doesn't make sense to me. How did we get to this

place?

By the way I have always had a golden healthcare plan from cradle to now and I

can tell you even with the best insurance available on the market I still

received substandard care. I get the most profitable treatments vs. the

treatments that work. With special interests controlling our healthcare in this

country we will continue to decline on the list. And that my folks is the

American way.

Sharon H.

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> " ...there will be no effective alternative for consumers in the market for

> health coverage, which means no competitive pressure for private insurers

> to rein in premiums and other charges. (Forget about the nonprofit

> cooperatives. That's like sending peewee footballers up against the Super

Bowl

> champs.) "

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> NYTimes -- August 18, 2009

> OP-ED COLUMNIST

> This Is Reform?

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> By BOB HERBERT

> It's never a contest when the interests of big business are pitted against

> the public interest. So if we manage to get health care " reform " this time

> around it will be the kind of reform that benefits the very people who

> have given us a failed system, and thus made reform so necessary.

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[Guest guest]

Sharon, you made some good points. I want to add that it's not just the FOX

Network that has " troubling " news reports. The other major networks also have

big problems---those big problems are known as corporate influence and control.

The issue of toxic mold is a perfect example of corporate control over the news.

Why do you think there has been little or no coverage of the issue by the

national news networks or national media or national talk shows?

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> > " ...there will be no effective alternative for consumers in the market for

> > health coverage, which means no competitive pressure for private insurers

> > to rein in premiums and other charges. (Forget about the nonprofit

> > cooperatives. That's like sending peewee footballers up against the Super

Bowl

> > champs.) "

> >

> > NYTimes -- August 18, 2009

> > OP-ED COLUMNIST

> > This Is Reform?

> >

> > By BOB HERBERT

> > It's never a contest when the interests of big business are pitted against

> > the public interest. So if we manage to get health care " reform " this time

> > around it will be the kind of reform that benefits the very people who

> > have given us a failed system, and thus made reform so necessary.

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[Guest guest]

Mayleen,

You watch Glenn Beck? Don't you know he is the worst offender at FOX not the

facts news? First he says we have a terrible healthcare system and now he says

we have the best healthcare system in the world. The truth is we're 36 out of

all industrial nations. That is fact and what Glenn Beck says are lies. And he

is a racist as well as a liar and over ten major advertisers stopped advertising

on his show. Even Barbara Walters cornered him for lying.

Glenn Beck only cares about himself and his ratings and the millions he makes

from FOX news for spreading lies.

Please take the time to learn the facts.

Sharon H.

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> > > " ...there will be no effective alternative for consumers in the market for

> > > health coverage, which means no competitive pressure for private insurers

> > > to rein in premiums and other charges. (Forget about the nonprofit

> > > cooperatives. That's like sending peewee footballers up against the Super

Bowl

> > > champs.) "

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> > > NYTimes -- August 18, 2009

> > > OP-ED COLUMNIST

> > > This Is Reform?

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> > > By BOB HERBERT

> > > It's never a contest when the interests of big business are pitted against

> > > the public interest. So if we manage to get health care " reform " this time

> > > around it will be the kind of reform that benefits the very people who

> > > have given us a failed system, and thus made reform so necessary.

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