Re: Insurance company tricks/crimes

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Thanks, . I'm sure that this will help people starting new cases.

Years ago, I was under surveillance for a wicked knee injury. Under

the Bush admin, TIPS was another program whereby the guv used

neighbors to spy on you. What a waste of $$. From what I can tell,

they use surveillance people who are doing bad things themselves so

that they have something to threaten them with if need be. If you

suspect a neighbor is spying, have their affairs looked into.

Barth

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BC> I received the following information from a friend. I thought you might

like to be aware of these tactics.

BC> If you know of anyone who is being harassed by an insurance company, please

share these tips.

BC> I wanted to warn you of several tricks (known as crimes) that your insurance

company will use against you. Some of these things were done to our family and

some were done to other families we

BC> have talked to. I will add suggestions for protecting your family in

parenthesis after some of the items. We had to do several of these things.

BC> I am sending you this information to help you so you will be aware of what

they might be doing and to give you ideas on how to deal with their criminal

behavior. We had to learn all of this

BC> along the way.

BC> -They will tamper with your mail. They would take our mail (especially

mail from our attorneys) and then it would show up a couple weeks later. (Get

a heavy duty locking mailbox or use a

BC> P.O. Box at a local post office. Install surveillance cameras that watch

your mailbox. It is a federal offense to tamper with the U.S. mail, so if you

can prove it, they will go to jail. We

BC> didn't install surveillance cameras, but I wish we had.)

BC> -They might tap your phone or listen to your conversations with special

equipment from somewhere near your house. (If you think your phone has been

tapped, check with your local phone

BC> company. You could also hire a private investigator to look into it.)

BC> -They will try to hack into your computer, so you make sure you have a good

antivirus or antispyware program and make sure the firewall feature is turned

on.

BC> -They can take photos of you from up to a mile away with long-distance

camera lenses. (Don't open your blinds or curtains unless you are fully

dressed.)

BC> -They will use illegal surveillance people. In our case, they had people

following us who weren't licensed investigators, and that's illegal. One woman

who followed and photographed us was

BC> the sister-in-law of another attorney. (Get their license plate numbers

and vehicle descriptions. Serve subpoenas on them requesting them to appear

for depositions. That woman I mentioned

BC> only quit harassing us after we served a subpoena on her. Then she lied

and said she was just taking photos of traffic and people for fun.) Another

idea is to take pictures of the

BC> surveillance people. They like to think they are sneaky, so they don't

like it when you notice them.

BC> -They will use illegal license plates on the surveillance vehicles. Some

of the vehicles that were following us had license plates that didn't belong to

those vehicles. (Take pictures of

BC> their vehicles and license plates. Tell the police that a strange car is

following you and the license plates don't belong to the car. If you mention

that you are fighting an insurance

BC> company, the police won't do anything even though they are committing a

crime by using those illegal license plates.)

BC> -They will use vans or RVs as surveillance vehicles. In our case, they

parked an RV near our house and used it as their base of operation. The RV was

parked there for several months. When we

BC> finally got sick of it, we moved. That was a waste of time---the RV moved

with us that same day and parked near our new location. (We should have

approached the RV and let them know that we

BC> knew what they were doing. We asked the police for help, but again they

said " no " .)

BC> -They will put you and your attorneys under surveillance. They are trying

to find something bad about you or your attorneys to force you to give up.

They won't admit they had you under

BC> surveillance unless they find something to use against you. In other

cases, they found that the policyholder was having a secret affair, and they

found that another policyholder was gay.

BC> Both of those families gave up under threat of exposure.

BC> -They might damage your property or your car as another form of

intimidation to scare you into giving up.

BC> -They will follow and photograph other family members including your

children. Our 18-year-old son is still reluctant to drive a car because he was

followed and harassed so often. I wish we

BC> had hired a bodyguard for him, but we didn't think about that until much

later.

BC> -They will pay your neighbors to spy on you or to make up lies about you.

This happened in our case.

BC> -They might go into your house and steal things or damage things. (Get a

security system, especially if it's monitored by a local security agency.

Again, a surveillance system would also be

BC> helpful.) In one case, the homeowner found a surveillance person inside

their home. The homeowner shot the intruder in the leg.

BC> -Wait for the spy to pass you and then follow their car. Take pictures of

them and their vehicle. Write down their vehicle description and license plate

number and give the information to your

BC> attorneys.

BC> Another suggestion would be to hire your own surveillance people. They

could get details about the people who are watching you. They would also be

more aggressive about getting them to stop.

BC> If a private investigator is following you, you are supposed to be able to

approach them and ask for their I.D. We couldn't do that in our case. If we

tried to approach them or even looked

BC> at them, they would disappear and then new people would show up to watch

us. This happened several times.

BC> Hire your own surveillance people to watch the insurance company

representatives and the insurance company attorneys. Some policyholders have

done this in other cases and have discovered

BC> valuable information (such as drug use).

BC> We tried to get help from law enforcement, but they wouldn't help. They

just laughed at us and said that insurance companies are " allowed " to put

people under surveillance. If you decide to

BC> call the police for help, don't mention that you are fighting an insurance

company.

BC> I hope this information helps you to be prepared for their tricks/crimes.

BC> Here are 3 related items on this subject:

BC> http://www.disabilityclaimssolutions.com/articles.html

BC> http://abajournal.com/news/video_surveillance_trips_up_insurer/

BC> http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/054927p.pdf

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