Re: [moldtheseverereactor] Re: T-2 Toxins in Water-Damaged Buildings (Questions)

[Guest guest]

Branislav says that you have to specificially ask for the tests to include T-2

toxins and those tests are very expensive. Based on Branislav's comments, I

would guess that we really don't know if T-2 toxins are found in water-damaged

buildings.

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From: Branislav <arealis@...>

moldtheseverereactor

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:06:57 PM

Subject: [moldtheseverereactor] Re: T-2 Toxins in Water-Damaged Buildings

(Questions)

The tests for trichothecenes are not cheap. If you want it, you have to tell

them that you want the analysis to include testing specifically for each and

every trichothecene mycotoxin (Satratoxin G, Satratoxin H, Verucarrin etc). I

know of some labs that do that in USA, but again it's pretty expensive (from

$300 to several thousand dollars per toxin, depending on the particular lab).

[Guest guest]

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I disagree that we really don't know if T-2 toxins are found in

water-damaged buildings (WDB). You and I may not know if T-2

toxins are in my WDB or in your WDB because we haven't tested

for them.

But the research citations posted here show that if I were to test

for mycotoxins in my WDB I should not expect to find T-2 toxins,

but would expect to find other mycotoxins in some of them some

of the time. Which means if I am going to pay the high cost of

mycotoxin testing I'm wasting my time and money specifying T-2.

The other distinction is with testing human fluids vs testing

environmental samples, The $40 T-2 toxin test under discussion

does not test environmental samples, but human fluid samples. If

T-2 or other mycotoxins are present it doesn't know where it

came from - from a WDB or from food, for example. We are back

again the the critical importance of a comprehensive history of

the building and the occupants plus other information to establish

the context for interpreting the data.

The sample testing and cost Branislav is talking about is testing

environmental samples, not human fluids. If present it doesn't

know if the person was exposed to it or not, or to a food source.

Again, we are back to the comprehensive inspection and history,

as above.

There is a huge difference in technique, cost, and accreditation

requirements (as Dr Thrasher has emphasized) between testing

environmental samples and human fluid/tissue samples.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Branislav says that you have to specificially ask for the tests to include T-

2 toxins and those tests are very expensive. Based on Branislav's

comments, I would guess that we really don't know if T-2 toxins are

found in water-damaged buildings.

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From: Branislav <arealis@...>

moldtheseverereacto r

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:06:57 PM

Subject: [moldtheseverereactor] Re: T-2 Toxins in Water-Damaged

Buildings (Questions)

The tests for trichothecenes are not cheap. If you want it, you have to tell

them that you want the analysis to include testing specifically for each

and every trichothecene mycotoxin (Satratoxin G, Satratoxin H,

Verucarrin etc). I know of some labs that do that in USA, but again it's

pretty expensive (from $300 to several thousand dollars per toxin,

depending on the particular lab).