Re: OT: Food Inc, the movie

[Guest guest]

Yeah, it seems as though corn is in almost everything nowadays. There is

a documentary film entitled " King Corn " that shows just how modern corn

became such a major part of our diet. The film is very interesting and

it was an eye opener for me.

King Corn trailer:

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http://cookingupastory.com/food-news/food-news-a-conversation-with-king-\

corn-filmmaker-curt-ellis-part-1/

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Modern corn is a very different from ancient corn. In fact modern corn

cannot even reliably reproduce on its own and it would most likely

become extinct if humans didn't plant it.

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Plus corn is often contaminated with mold and mycotoxins.

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> A lot of OT postings lately but I think we all struggle to stay

healthy after mold exposure. This film will probably be coming to a

small independent theatre near you regarding the food we eat. One thing

I was struck by in trailer is statement that alot of the food we eat is

preprocessed corn.

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> http://www.foodincmovie.com/

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[Guest guest]

Millhouse, so you saw the film Food, Inc or you are talking about the Kind Corn

movie?

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> Yeah, it seems as though corn is in almost everything nowadays. There is

> a documentary film entitled " King Corn " that shows just how modern corn

> became such a major part of our diet. The film is very interesting and

> it was an eye opener for me.

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> King Corn trailer:

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[Guest guest]

I have not seen Food Inc.. I was talking about the documentary film

" King Corn " .

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Millhouse, so you saw the film Food, Inc or you are talking about the King Corn

movie?

[Guest guest]

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I find it a little hard to believe that chicken meat is sold at the market

knowing that the meat is cancerous. Could you please post your source of

information on this subject?? D

In , <pete-@...> wrote:

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> Did you know that 1/10th of all chickens sent to the slaughter die before

> arriving? They can not be slaughter, but it happens. And that 1/3th or

> so have cancer? If the cancer is " obvious " then the bird is not sold

> whole. However, now a days, as of this decade, in the USA, such

> a bird can have the 'bad' part cut off and discarded, while the rest

> of the bird is sold in a shrink wrap as parts? Thus, 1/3rd of all chicken

> sold has cancer,

[Guest guest]

no corn for me, in any way shape or forn. for some reason after my exposure it

makes me severly ill.

even the frutose in prescribed meds cause severe loss of balance, thats effecys

to the brain. i dont know if that was also the cause of severe inflamation in

the bowels or if it was a combo of it and or the toxin binding process of CSM

and costapation, but i cant bring myself to try the csm again, even though i

have have gotten the frutose free kind now. being consapated and haveing

inflamed bowels at the same time is miserable.

there are some foods that end up affecting my brain. canned goods, exspecially

green beans for some reason and i guess the way they are processed causes a

severe chemical type reaction or something, it's not good, lind of like food

poisoning effects.

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> I have read that corn has more mycotoxins than any other food, so you

shouldn't eat corn.

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> From: <pete-@...>

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> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:54:49 PM

> Subject: Re: [] Re: OT: Food Inc, the movie

> Corn is not particularly nutritious, not like other grains.

>

> Similar to carrots, eat them rarely compared to other foods.

> Carrots are more fiber than nutrients.

>

> So, are corn and carrots to be eaten only once or twice a week?

> Favoring more nutritious foods, higher, denser in nutrients, for

> fewer calories?

>

> My thoughts are yes.

>

> Feedback?

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[Guest guest]

hi pete, thanks, i actually had blind food intolerance testing done that

dignosed my reaction to corn, by a allergest/aaem listed doctor, otherwise i may

have never figured it out. i am so thankful that just that one test because my

reaction to corn was makeing me miserable. there used to be some controvercy

about this type of blind testing but i recomend anyone that has had severe

mold/myco/waterdamaged home exposure who ends up with severe direrrhea, bloody

stools, bowel problems,stomach bloating after eating, to get this testing done.

i wish i had had more done.

yeast was another tested for, cant remember others. yeat was mild compared to

corn reaction. but not a invasive testing, drops placed under the tounge, the

reaction is that if reactive, the lips go numb

also a short memory test is done while under the influence to deturmine brain

effects. theres also some smells that make my lips tingle and go numb. sometimes

the numbness goes right on to the rest of my body. i take it that these are

exposures to chemical/toxins that have more effect on the nervous system.

> > no corn for me, in any way shape or forn. for some reason after my

> > exposure it makes me severly ill.

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> I've read in many books now, scientific books, that mold

> hypersensitivity, or any type

> of hypersensitivity, that during the initial onset, " associated "

> molecules can be memorized

> by the immune system (read up on how the thyroid works and has

> " memory " , that is

> once you have the chicken pox, you are immune thereafter), and these

associated

> molecules can cause the same set of symptoms as the " causation "

> molecule (chronic

> exposure to spores, mycotoxins), to the same degree of severity.

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> So, what you talk about is real, and well documented.

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> >even the frutose in prescribed meds cause severe loss of balance,

>

> Wow. That's good detective work to get it down to fructose.

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> >thats effecys to the brain. i dont know if that was also the cause

> >of severe inflamation in the bowels or if it was a combo of it and

> >or the toxin binding process of CSM and costapation,

>

> I've found my constipation was caused by unrefined foods, that needed

> processing the day before I ate it. Like oatmeal. Soak it in water for

> 12 hours, and it destroys a molecule/chemical that causes constipation.

> It was wonderful to find that out. And shock that my morning oatmeal

> cereal was causing the next morning's constipation.

>

> >but i cant bring myself to try the csm again, even though i have

> >have gotten the frutose free kind now.

>

> Given my first paragraph about " associated " molecules, you can evaluate

> if that is what is happening, and you are totally correct to not try it again.

> Not so soon. Hmm, soon here can mean 'years', or even over a decade.

>

> >being consapated and haveing inflamed bowels at the same time is miserable.

>

> Bloating too? I'm finding bloating is caused by certain foods.

> I'm identifying them, to eliminate them. Making a list of each

> meal's " food " ingredients, and merge in the 'symptoms', into a

> single notebook, can help identify them at the end of the week.

> Score the food before each bloating incident, and at the end of

> the month, eliminate the 1 or 2 foods with the highest score.

> Try it for 2-4 months.

>

> That's the type of food rotation I am finding. That is, after not eating

> the offending food for 4 months, I can add it back into my diet, at

> 1-2 times a week. Then 4 months later I rotate it out.

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> There are about 10 to 20 foods I do that too.

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> >there are some foods that end up affecting my brain.

>

> Ditto my first paragraph. I have a list of about 18 food ingredients

> that I can not eat.

> Every food on that list was part of my " growth " as a chef, in the

> house that I survived.

> All those ingredients I was experimenting with in the

> kitchen. Particularly, the last

> two months of my occupancy (hazy recollection).

>

> Food rotation every 3-4 months is what I do now.

> Others have to rotate weekly, so I feel lucky.

>

> I tolerate best of all, foods I ate that my mother made the first 20

> years of my life.

>

> Any " new " food now... I dislike, that is I have symptoms. I try.

> And will keep trying. Kale is next on my list. I know now I must

> start with small daily amounts, and skip days, working up to larger

> amounts. This allows my digestive system to " learn " what molecules

> to build up a reserve for. I can now eat beans every day. Months

> ago I could not eat 1/4th can without gas within hours.

>

> >canned goods,

>

> Any " aged " food should be off limits for mold hypersensitive survivors.

> Aged foods imply opportunity for fungal growth. Canned is aged.

> The fluids certain are " old " , as is the contents.

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> >exspecially green beans for some reason

>

> I found at the height of my chronic sewer gas exposure

> that I could no longer eat green beans, either.

> Now, I must limited them. I eat frozen only now.

> And only 2-3 times a week. I use to buy fresh.

> And eat large amounts 3-4 times a week.

> I hope to once again do that, but it's not now.

>

> >and i guess the way they are processed causes a severe chemical type

> >reaction or something, it's not good, lind of like food poisoning effects.

>

> I really dislike the long term rotation out of my diet of staples.

> It's a hardship, in going to the store, and seeing what I used to be

> able to eat. The craving to try it again, perhaps too soon. And when

> it's soon, the bad affects it has on me.

>

> It's a long, hard lonely road, we tread.

> While I wish you were not on this same road,

> I am glad to have company.

>

> I hope my post has given you some hope for recovery, for eating any

> food one day.

>

> Pete

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[Guest guest]

hi chris, ditto. yes, if you have a good article explaining chemical

sensitivity please send to me.

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> no corn for me, in any way shape or forn. for some reason after my exposure it

makes me severly ill.

> even the frutose in prescribed meds cause severe loss of balance, thats

effecys to the brain.

>

[Guest guest]

I DO NOT recommend MCS America at all, for several reasons that I don't care to

discuss at this time. But I will say one thing, that the owner has always

refused to identify herself when asked. Not only to me, but to many other

advocates and professionals from all walks of life. There are many other good

MCS boards available to the public. This has been discussed on this board and

others in depth a while ago.

KC

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> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:10:24 PM

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> hi chris, ditto. yes, if you have a good article explaining chemical

sensitivity please send to me.

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