Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Any where on the east side. Starting on from Vail east bound along hwy 10. From: corkylux1 <corkylux1@...> Subject: [] Tucson - best areas for MCSrs Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 4:20 PM Â The pollution here in Phoenix is pretty bad, I get ill every time I leave the house. I have been looking for a place to rent in NW Tucson (close to River Rd & Oracle) and Oro Valley but no luck so far. Those of you who live in Tucson-- are there any other areas you know of where the air is pretty clean? ? North central, north east areas? Appreciate any info you can give. ..........Corky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I'm in southeast Tucson. I don't often generally have an air pollution problem here. With the cold, some people have been using fireplaces, but I haven't been able to get out because of other problems, so their FP use has been a problem only twice so far-I came back in soon, <G>. I'm about 13 mile southeast of River and Oracle, for somewhat of a reference point-close to Pima Community College East, on Irvington Road. Of course just because I find it okay does not mean you will. Ella I have been looking for a place to rent in NW Tucson (close to River Rd & Oracle) and Oro Valley but no luck so far. > > Those of you who live in Tucson-- are there any other areas you know of where the air is pretty clean? ? North central, north east areas? > > Appreciate any info you can give. > > .........Corky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 This isn't from firsthand knowledge, but I did hear from someone who lives there on another list that the San Pedro area in AZ has great air quality. Sam Those of you who live in Tucson-- are there any other areas you know of where the air is pretty clean? ? North central, north east areas? Appreciate any info you can give. ..........Corky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Thank you for your response. Last April I took 3 one-day drives to Cottonwood, Prescott & Black Canyon City, and Wickenburg; Nov to NW Tucson. Not everyone gets symptoms (going by the 'normal' people I know), but I can taste the pollution on my tongue almost immediately when stepping outside, even when I have window open a little.  When I 'check out' the pollution in other cities, I drive with my window down and am outside a lot for approx 4 hours.  In NW Tucson, after that timeframe, I had mild symptoms-- headache, eyes ,tongue & throat burning, so that tells me the air there is cleaner than here. In Phoenix, I have to stay in the house 95% of the time with my air cleaners, mainly run errands or go out for lunch. If I moved to the Tucson area, I could at least walk around a swap meet for an hour or two, sit on my patio/have lunch on my patio-- a real treat since I have been retired a year and a half.  I will check the map for cross streets approx SE of where I was looking. 30 years ago I lived at 22nd St & Craycroft. If I can't find a rental, then I am considering buying another mobile home. I live in one now, no problems unless I stink up the place with a cleaner-- I am down to just baking soda and peroxide.  I bought the Shark steam cleaner advertised on TV-- what they don't tell you is that you can't use steam on a lot of things in the house, so I mainly will try it on windows and big mirrors for now. You can't use steam on painted surfaces, bare wood (my paneling), my faux wood blinds, and a lot of fabrics (curtains) like faux suede. I tried using the nozzle to apply steam directly on my fiberglass tub to remove the baking soda build up-- did not phase it, did not phase the calcium around my spigots. When reading more on steam cleaners-- my Shark is a dry steam and dries so fast it does no good for some things. Later, I may invest in a more expensive steam cleaner-- the tank kind as it is hard to hold onto the container when I am trying to clean. I would prefer a wet steam and go around with paper towels and rags than play around with those covers Shark has-- and boy are they expensive to replace.  Last winter I bought an IQ Purifier at the eco store here. It was $900 but it does well with cleaners in the air and the fireplace smoke (FP stink gets into the house, thus I bought the IQ). I also have 3 Austin Healthmates which are very good, but the IQ is best for chemical odors in the air. The IQ is on wheels, very easy to push from room to room. I use it by day in my living room and at night push it into my bedroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I have a friend who has a mobile home for sale not far from my house. I've never seen it, and know nothing about it--including size and age. If you're interested, I can email you his address. They are on Pantano north of Golf Links and south of 22nd. FWIW, Lincoln Regional park is nearby, with Clements Center http://www.tucsonaz.gov/parksandrec/clements.pdf . Look at the map on http://tucson.citysearch.com/profile/map/32325565/tucson_az/clements_center.html .. I think their MH is just about where the " D " is, in S Pantano RD, above the " Star " Clements Center is the one I've been working to get more fragrance free. Your presence and help would be greatly appreciated! Ella a real treat since I have been retired a year and a half. >  > I will check the map for cross streets approx SE of where I was looking. 30 years ago I lived at 22nd St & Craycroft. If I can't find a rental, then I am considering buying another mobile home. I live in one now, no problems unless I stink up the place with a cleaner-- I am down to just baking soda and peroxide. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Clements Center is the one I've been working to get more fragrance free-- Do you mean you are trying to get them to use green cleaners? I will look up the sites (at the end of your msg) and see if I can get it on my computer-- it is BADLY need of replacing, outdated, so I can get into maps, etc. since the beginning of 2009. I will probably get a custom-built computer again as there is less chance of extreme offgassing.  If your friend's MH is in a 55+ park and if he has MCS, too, then I appreciate you giving me his e-mail address.  Tucson Meadows is the only MH park I see on my map, but all the MH parks may not be on here.  My friend lived in a really nice MH park back when I lived in Tucson (1979-81) -- it was on or near Golf Links-- the space rent is way, way out of my price range.  I, of course, can't be sure, but my MCS may have started in Tucson. I lived in an apt complex called Los Arboles, NW corner of 22nd St at Craycroft. I went to Tucson from back east, was so shocked that everybody sprays inside and outside every month. I had only a studio apt, roaches in that complex really bad. I kept complaining to mgt, threatened to file a complaint somewhere, so they had the exterminator track down the nest-- it was in the kitchen of a studio 2 doors down from my apt.  After that, everywhere I moved in the sunbelt was sprayed monthly, treated for termites, etc. I sometimes wonder if I had stay in Pittsburgh if I would not have MCS. 400+ in my family, and I am the only one with this illness.  What is Clements Center? .........Corky  I have a friend who has a mobile home for sale...........  , Lincoln Regional park is nearby, with Clements Center http://www.tucsonaz ..gov/parksandrec /clements. pdf . Look at the map on http://tucson. citysearch. com/profile/ map/32325565/ tucson_az/ clements_ center.html . I think their MH is just about where the " D " is, in S Pantano RD, above the " Star " Clements Center is the one I've been working to get more fragrance free. Your presence and help would be greatly appreciated! Ella a real treat since I have been retired a year and a half. >  > I will check the map for cross streets approx SE of where I was looking. 30 years ago I lived at 22nd St & Craycroft. If I can't find a rental, then I am considering buying another mobile home. I live in one now, no problems unless I stink up the place with a cleaner-- I am down to just baking soda and peroxide. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 They are using greener cleaners. They have a few " Please be Fragrance Free " signs up, and many, but not all, either use almost no fragrances or very little, there are those people who still do. I go in the mornings when I can, and now I run into few problems. I may have to ask for more accommodations re the treadmill, cross trainer, and bike. Until I can get there more often and use them, I won't know. Several people have appreciated the signs and said so. Even to the supervisor, who NEEDS to know that. The air fresheners have been removed from the workout room and women's locker room. Don't know about the men's. I think my friend's park MAY be 55+, don't know. They are not chemically sensitive, and though I don't know of their use of household cleaners, they don't AFAIK use many personal care products. They do use some. I don't know if Tucson Meadows is the name. Clements Center is part of Tucson Parks and rec. It's a " regional Center " . Has one newer building that houses a nice fitness room, locker rooms, basketball court, inside walking track, elevator, lobby, stairs. There's an outdoor pool next to it. The other building has activity rooms. Lincoln Park has softball, soccer, and volleyball fields, paved paths, and a large undeveloped area, several picnic tables. Fred Enke Golf course is next to it, along with Pima Community College. Ella  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 > > The pollution here in Phoenix is pretty bad, I get ill every time I leave the house. > > I have been looking for a place to rent in NW Tucson (close to River Rd & Oracle) and Oro Valley but no luck so far. > > Those of you who live in Tucson-- are there any other areas you know of where the air is pretty clean? ? North central, north east areas? > > Appreciate any info you can give. > > .........Corky > I spent a good deal of time in Tucson/Phoenix last spring trying to find a good location for a friend. I wasn't happy with the entire area from Tucson to Phoenix. Those mountains box in the cities and keep the bad stuff from blowing away. Even Picacho Peak was really bad. And it wasn't just me.....all the other campers were really sullen and irritable. Another problem with Tucson is the remnants from the forest fires on Mt. Lemmon a few years ago. Chemicals in general don't get to me, but areas that have been burned with fire retardants are exceptions. My unconfirmed suspicion is that there are particularly potent molds (mutated) that grow on the chemicals on the trees. And it's my understanding that some fire retardants cause water to stick to the trees, providing the standing water + cellulose conditions that allows certain toxic molds to grow even outside. The single place near Tucson I liked was Oracle. (Oracle Junction was not good enough.) Other than that, I had to get all the way east to Benson before the air got good. (Another Moldie who spent a winter in Tucson independently picked out Oracle and Benson as the best places, so I feel pretty confident that I'm accurate in this assessment for at least some of us. He says Phoenix is worse than Tucson, but I didn't spent much time in the former myself.) I didn't find sdale to be as bad as Tucson. Taliesin West was superb. If I had to live in sdale, I would go up and spend an hour or more sitting on their patio every day just to " break the response. " If I can get to a really clear area for even a short chunk of each day, it gives me a lot more ability to tolerate a greater amount of mold the rest of the time. Another option is to go north to Happy Valley. I found the whole area (inside and out) to be quite good. Lots of new retail shops and restaurants there. Recently farmland. Conceivably a lot of those places will go moldy eventually and make the whole area go bad, but (at least as of last spring) it was fine. So that would be my choice, if I had to live in that area. Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I lived in Phoenix, the air wasn't bad but the heat was horrendous so much so that I had to move back to Los Angeles > > > > Those of you who live in Tucson-- are there any other areas you know of > where the air is pretty clean? ? North central, north east areas? > > > > Appreciate any info you can give. > > > > .........Corky > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 The last 3 yrs in Phoenix -- pollution worse than prior years. It's so bad I can taste the pollution on my tongue almost immediately after stepping outside, then the burning and headache starts. Thanks to the 'fireplace enthrusiasts', I now cough for awhile after running errands.  I was in LA twice in the early 80s, before being symptomatic with MCS.  The pollution there burned my mucous membranes, too, at that time. On Wed, 12/30/09, Tug <tug_slug@...> wrote:  I lived in Phoenix, the air wasn't bad but the heat was horrendous so much so that I had to move back to Los Angeles > > > > Those of you who live in Tucson-- are there any other areas you know of > where the air is pretty clean? ? North central, north east areas? > > > > Appreciate any info you can give. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I am really boxed in, but I am not giving up. Long distance drives are hard for me because of my left knee and right ankle problems, so I have to limit my trips to check things out.  I lived in sdale 4 yrs ago and loved it. The air the last few years is bad everywhere here. I read somewhere that the pollution drifts west to east here, and the last 2 trips I made to Mesa and Apache Junction the pollution seemed to be just as bad as where I live in north Phoenix.  Because of my other health problems I cannot tolerate a cold climate, higher elevation, need the warm, dry desert. Also, due to my age, I need things to be easy, plus I don't have money to buy a house. BUT, I am not giving up! I spent a good deal of time in Tucson/Phoenix last spring trying to find a good location for a friend. I wasn't happy with the entire area from Tucson to Phoenix......The single place near Tucson I liked was Oracle. (Oracle Junction was not good enough.) Other than that, I had to get all the way east to Benson before the air got good.........sdale to be as bad as Tucson. Taliesin West was superb. ........... Another option is to go north to Happy Valley.....Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I would also like to know about good areas to live that are in closer proximity to Benson, so that we could be closer to Dr. Gray. We have our rental here in Sedona until early March, and then I don't know where we will go, but outside of Tuscan would be a possibility. Would want to be away from Tuscan and its pollution, higher up where it is cooler in summer would be more desirable, can't be too remote because that would freak out my sick family member, absolutely must have wired high speed internet and cable or satellite tv access, proximity to natural foods store/organic food also a requirement, some trees around a plus.... Thanks for any ideas of communities or specific rentals. Sue V >The pollution here in Phoenix is pretty bad, I get ill every time I >leave the house. > >I have been looking for a place to rent in NW Tucson (close to River Rd > & Oracle) and Oro Valley but no luck so far. > >Those of you who live in Tucson-- are there any other areas you know of >where the air is pretty clean? ? North central, north east areas? > >Appreciate any info you can give. > >.........Corky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Sue,I think planet thrive has a real estate section where they also advertise rentals. I think you can post there also. There are also alot of people on the list that live in AZ. There is also the safe travel directory website where you can post for free or check listings. And then there is the mcs shelter list on . " www.planetthrive.com " " http://www.safertraveldirectory.com/ " Sam I would also like to know about good areas to live that are in closer proximity to Benson, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 thanks for the ideas sam >Sue,I think planet thrive has a real estate section where they also >advertise rentals. I think you can post there also. There are also alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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