Re: New published paper by Dr. Rea

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe, Just some suggestions. The full text may not add anything to your

knowledge, as it may be more on how the test was administered, rather than

treatment protocol, but perhaps someone here may already be member and can

forward to you text.

If not and you are still interested, it says one option to getting full text is

to ask your library to subscribe to it. I've done that and had my library

subscribe to something for me and then the rest of people who use the library

have benefit of subscription to periodical or site. Sometimes they already are,

so it's available there already.

Other thing is that protocol he used is outlined in article and people who have

been to Dr Rae here may be able to answer questions about it. Note that article

says that all but one patient in study did as well on his protocol than 'leaving

environment' that patient was sensitive too. Important to remember here that he

is talking about an environmental sensitivity, MCS, rather than a water damaged

building, which we talk about so much here.

He says what protocol was. He used sauna. What kind. I know he has available

at his clinic more than one kind. I didn't have enough time there to do sauna

treatments but some members here did, and may be able to share his sauna

treatment info. I know one was infrared, but not sure what the other one or two

were, but in general saying that sweating is an important detoxifier.

He says he used antigens. He does extensive antigen testing there in Dallas

that to my knowledge is his own method, different than anywhere else. I was

there an entire week and went every day for antigen testing, essentially allergy

shots but with cautions taken to have very pure samples so patient isn't getting

a reaction to something else in shot. You'd have to get those there to try them.

I believe he said antioxidant treatment?, by IV?, etc. That I don't know but

perhaps someone else does. I have had IV treatment done by alternative doctors

and had antioxidants used but in this case he didn't specify what antioxidants

he used, but he used them by IV, so that is only thing I see that we aren't sure

what he was using.

Also The Dallas Clinic he runs may be willing to mail you a copy of this study

as it shows how successful his treatment protocol is to helping people become

able to tolerate their existing environment, which is his goal there, so

probably doesn't want to keep the info a secret, and may have info available to

mail out, or part of the packette of info they send out to prospective patients.

Just some ideas!!

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> Can anyone afford the $32 for the FULL TEXT of this new article, by Dr. Rea, &

email me a PDF copy?  

[Guest guest]

Dr. Rea uses regular heat saunas (using rocks that heat up). Can't

remember off hand if this has a special name. One sauna, made out of

poplar, has one infrared backrest which is optional. The other two

saunas have tiled walls. Anne

[Guest guest]

Barb: You said that he was referring to MCS and not SBS but if you look at the

top of the report, its says mycotoxin induced illness. I have done this exact

protocal with Dr. Rea at EHC for a year. I only wish in the article he stated

how long they did treatment before returning to work.

Joe: I can tell you about this protocal if you are interested but I will be

honest with you, it is very expensive and he takes no insurance but will print

out forms to send to your insurance co. And as Barb said, your environment is

" key " to recovery. D

> >>

> > Can anyone afford the $32 for the FULL TEXT of this new article, by Dr. Rea,

& email me a PDF copy?  

>

[Guest guest]

Diane, I didn't think Dr Rae did the antigen testing for sbs. I wouldn't want

to desensitized to mold but perhaps the exposure makes you sensitive to other

things and the antigens make you more tolerant. I didn't understand his antigen

protocol, purpose of it for me. I asked questions and didn't get an answer I

understood so I didn't give the treatment much of a try. I'm not a good patient

if I don't understand what it is all about. Thanks for the correction.

>

> Barb: You said that he was referring to MCS and not SBS but if you look at the

top of the report, its says mycotoxin induced illness. I have done this exact

protocal with Dr. Rea at EHC for a year. I only wish in the article he stated

how long they did treatment before returning to work.

>

> Joe: I can tell you about this protocal if you are interested but I will be

honest with you, it is very expensive and he takes no insurance but will print

out forms to send to your insurance co. And as Barb said, your environment is

" key " to recovery. D

>

[Guest guest]

Yes he does test for SBS. All of my antigens were for various molds and

mycotoxins. I even took an antigen of tricothecene and did five injections

daily, seven days a week. I can honestly say that I felt better with them and I

know there is alot of controversy about that procedure. Doctor I was seeing in

Boston before coming to Dallas would not even consider it. D

> >

> > Barb: You said that he was referring to MCS and not SBS but if you look at

the top of the report, its says mycotoxin induced illness. I have done this

exact protocal with Dr. Rea at EHC for a year. I only wish in the article he

stated how long they did treatment before returning to work.

> >

> > Joe: I can tell you about this protocal if you are interested but I will be

honest with you, it is very expensive and he takes no insurance but will print

out forms to send to your insurance co. And as Barb said, your environment is

" key " to recovery. D

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Diane,

 

Are these antigens meant to be taken over a long period of time as allergy

serums are? Or is there a tolerance built up in the short term? Would you say

that in this case, it is about building up an immunity to the toxic exposure or

is there something in the antigens that allows the body to release the toxins?

 

Thanks,

Sam

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Yes he does test for SBS. All of my antigens were for various molds and

mycotoxins. I even took an antigen of tricothecene and did five injections

daily, seven days a week. I can honestly say that I felt better with them and I

know there is alot of controversy about that procedure. Doctor I was seeing in

Boston before coming to Dallas would not even consider it. D

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[Guest guest]

Sam: Its not about releasing toxins, Dr. Rea says the antigens decrease your

reactivity level so your body is not in a constant state of over-reacting, as

in universal reactors. His protocal concentrates on your " total body burden " and

the antigens are but one way to do that along with the rest of the treatment

being heat therapy (sauna), exercise oxygen and IVs to detox. Like I said, my

doctor in Boston would not even consider antigens and its the first thing that

Dr. Rea did, so everyone feels differently about it. D

>

> Diane,

>  

> Are these antigens meant to be taken over a long period of time as allergy

serums are? Or is there a tolerance built up in the short term? Would you say

that in this case, it is about building up an immunity to the toxic exposure or

is there something in the antigens that allows the body to release the toxins?

>  

> Thanks,

> Sam

[Guest guest]

Diane,

why won't your doctor in Boston consider antigens? What is wrong

with them? Anne

[Guest guest]

Anne: Its not that there is anything wrong with them. It was his opinion that I

was too toxic and the reactions from the mold injections would not be accurate

readings as my body would be " over-reating " and then the antigen would not be

correct. I hope that made sense to you. I know people that had to have their

antigens changed after de-toxing. D

>

> Diane,

> why won't your doctor in Boston consider antigens? What is wrong

> with them? Anne

>

[Guest guest]

It's not meant to help if you are still around the molds, right? I don't know

why i can't grasp this. I know one of antigens he gave me was for my cat

allergy and I have cat, so you'd think I would get enough just from my cat...???

>

> Yes he does test for SBS. All of my antigens were for various molds and

mycotoxins. I even took an antigen of tricothecene and did five injections

daily, seven days a week. I can honestly say that I felt better with them and I

know there is alot of controversy about that procedure. Doctor I was seeing in

Boston before coming to Dallas would not even consider it. D

[Guest guest]

Diane,

thanks for your reply. I'm familiar with what you're talking about

because I've spent years in and out of Rea's clinic. A lot of people

have to retest new antigens after exposure (chemical or mold).

Since mold toxic patients are always exposed since the molds are in

their systems it can be pretty frustrating and expensive. I do

recall that some people who couldn't test well were told to sauna and

detox for a while before trying to test again. Anne

[Guest guest]

P.S. I did test and have antigens for all the molds and micotoxins.

I'm glad I did because a couple of years later the house I was living

in had a plumbing link and we found Stachy B, Penicilium and one

other mold. I didn't react at all. Anne

[Guest guest]

Barb: You would not " get enough from the cat " , your system would be in a

constant state of re-acting if you are around something that you are allergic to

and you would become " overloaded. " If you are very allergic to cats and you have

one, as I described with the toxic adaptation, you get used to the cat. If you

tried the cat antigen you would most likely feel better as it lessens your

" load. " Its all about giving your body a chance to recover. So, he would

recommend you not have a cat, just like he would recommend you move out of a

moldy home, but not everyone does or can do that.I had two golden retrievers my

entire life and got tested and was very allergic to dogs. I never knew...

>

> It's not meant to help if you are still around the molds, right? I don't know

why i can't grasp this. I know one of antigens he gave me was for my cat

allergy and I have cat, so you'd think I would get enough just from my cat...???

>