Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 In a message dated 7/8/04 12:43:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, smaas@... writes: > I don't know if he profits or not, Chris. Dear Sharon, He does not. He's made this quite clear all over his website. He finances the enormous site with the product sales (goods and services cost money to provide, even when done charitably...), and has pledged not to see a penny of profit. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Even though he doesn't profit from any of the sales on his site? Chris I don't know if he profits or not, Chris. I just know that he sells a particular brand; so i don't feel good about sending people to that site for information on coconut oil. They see that he's also selling it, and a lid goes down over their brain. I used to talk a lot about CO on various boards and when people did their googleing invariably Mercola and TT came up first, plus other commercial sites. It seemed as if Mercola's was just one among many,. At least,that's what people told me. " Where can I get unbiased information? " they asked. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 thanks for the explanation - though I never read any of that on the website myself... and others also seemed not to have seen it. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: > Selina, > owns the group coconut-info at the site. His group has alot of good information on it but they dont allow every question or posting to to go through to the group. The main reason this group was started was because of the frustration many people had at writing a long question to s group and never even seeing it , much less getting their question answered. ---- As for me, I unsubscribed from that group because I get tired of all the " Buy Trop Traditions Now! Two for one offer!! " posts Shilavy spams now and then and the nagging feeling he's exploiting the Filipino coconut farmers who make the oil for him to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Jim, You know how low the price is for coconuts nowadays. At least farmers somehow get to sell their vcno and earn a living. If does not buy them, who would? Nuts are only bought at higher prices when there is a real big mechanized oil mill factory around. There in Quezon, they do not have a decent factory. I am not sure, but i think Annette buys from those farmers too. What I am driving at is that the farmers' products are at least being sold thereby giving them some kind of income as against no income at all. From: Jim Ayson Coconut Oil Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: Re: website On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:37:39 -0700 (PDT), Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: > Selina, > owns the group coconut-info at the site. His group has alot of good information on it but they dont allow every question or posting to to go through to the group. The main reason this group was started was because of the frustration many people had at writing a long question to s group and never even seeing it , much less getting their question answered. ---- As for me, I unsubscribed from that group because I get tired of all the " Buy Trop Traditions Now! Two for one offer!! " posts Shilavy spams now and then and the nagging feeling he's exploiting the Filipino coconut farmers who make the oil for him to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 But then again He is creating a market for coconut oil. People may start out at that site, but the smart ones go looking for less expensive coconut oil and more open flows of information.they have to start somewhere and does advertise.The more markets available the more coco nut oil the farmers can sell. IN NC I agree with you, . Though I too was irritated by the way he manages the site and tries to " own " the members (by not displaying their e-mails, so that they can't contact each other) he does do a lot for the industry as a whole through his advertising; wre it not for him I would no doubt never have found coconut oil. But like many others I have moved on; withdrawn from the discussion group and won't recommend it to anyone. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:26:14 -0700 (PDT), Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: > But then again He is creating a market for coconut oil. People may start out at that site, but the smart ones go looking for less expensive coconut oil and more open flows of information.they have to start somewhere and does advertise.The more markets available the more coco nut oil the farmers can sell. --- Well I guess you're also right - although at the exorbitant prices he charges for VCNO in the States, those farmers should be driving SUVs now instead of water buffaloes. :-) As for being the first source people go to for coconut information, he has advertising via Google adlinks to thank for that. Bruce should also sign up for Google adlinks - especially with more people using Gmail nowadays, it will assure that every mention of " coconut " will bring up Bruce's site. Another thing that would help Brice's site would be a coconut news blog (to track all the latest coconut info istead of being a static site) and a good message forum to build a coconut web community. Mailing lists are fine, but its easy to lose track of threads in a spirited discussion (well unless you use Gmail's " threaded conversations " that is). A web community can easily accomodate thousands of denizens without being unwieldy. - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 I agree with you,. Jim, and I even suggested this to abotu a year ago, but he never replied. I guess he does not want this. I much prefer a discussion board format to a mailing list. I started a coconut oil discussion forum on delphi, to be found under http://forums.delphiforums.com/coconutoil/start. You have to sign in to Delphi enter, I believe. I like Delphi because you can organise the discussions into specific folders, which makes it easier to track discussions and keep them separete, as well as enabling newbies to find old discussions more easily and avoid repition. You can also edit and delete your messages. The forum is free but you can upgrade to get it ad=free and certain other priviedges. After a slow start it slowly fizzled out but I am keeping it alive because one day it might be more suitable than a laiming list. check it out. I don't really have time to manage it now but it's a good forum format! Sharon Mailing lists are fine, but its easy to lose track of threads in a spirited discussion (well unless you use Gmail's " threaded conversations " that is). A web community can easily accomodate thousands of denizens without being unwieldy. - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Of course the middlemen. They buy and forward to the factories.... RE: website ... for those who find it exensive to buy vcno, thery have the option to make their own. Our office is teaching those who are interested to roduce vcno. This might be possible for thos eliving in the Tropics but NOY for consumers everywhere else. I am sure there must be some way of creating a good market for coconut growers AND selling it for a lower price in the west. Retail prices are ridiculous. Prices are Someone is making a huge profit and it's not the growers, I'm sure! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Thanks for putting in the link, . At the moment it's closed to non-membetrs and I have to upgrade my own membership in order to open it up again. Of all the discussion boards I've been to, Delphi seems the best and most flexible. I'll do that tomorrow. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:38:18 +0100, Sharon M <smaas@...> wrote: > > Thanks for putting in the link, . At the moment it's closed to > non-membetrs and I have to upgrade my own membership in order to open it up > again. Of all the discussion boards I've been to, Delphi seems the best and > most flexible. I'll do that tomorrow. The best board I've used and setup is phpBB - mainly because its free and open source. Many web hosting companies offer automated setup as well with the hosting package. Here's one typical phpBB message board I set up for a client - http://www.yupangco.com/phpBB threads are easy to follow. If you have your own web hosting account, you can set your own rules for membership, moderation, and participation. Hmm, maybe Bruce would like a coconut forum for his site? He could ask his webmaster to set one up. Well if you need help Bruce, just holler. I think building a strong coconut advocate online community is one of the best tools for " winning the war against coconut oil misinformation " ... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 At first glance it looks pretty good. But one of the best things obout Delphgi is the ability to promote your forum. You can create a little ad with a headline, such as " Coconut: health villain or healing miracle? " which is then sent out to the entire Delphi forums network, which is one of the largest onthe Net, to reach thousands of people. The ads are free... and they draw in visitors who are curious, and who then stick around to read the threads. Most of the people on my visitors list were recruited through these promotions. Also, you can visit related Delphi forums such as the http://forums.delphiforums.com/lowcarb/start and promote coconut oil. Anyway, here again is the link: http://forums.delphiforums.com/coconutoil/start I think it would be good if it came to life again! Parhaps I'll just start a few promotions.... You can see the promotions for other forums on the right side and at the bottom of the Start page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I get a notice telling me that the URL is not valid. Alobar On 7/12/06, Lucila Geneston <alotagenston@...> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is an invitation to see our website : www.agnutriceutical .com. Our company produces probably the freshest Virgin Coconut OIl on earth. > > Discover it yourself ! > > > Lucila N. Geneston > Operations Manager > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 The site won't allow me to do anything. It just shows one page and if I click on the links it shows a page that says it isn't valid. Nichole --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 > > Congrats on the new website it is very good. > > It is a good place to go to review alot of your information. It was > easy to navigate and explore. Keep up the good work! > ==>Thanks so much PegS. I love the site search myself. Cheers, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 > > By doing internet searching I came across this website > > This naturopath doctor is associated with Dr. Mercola who has been > referred to on this message board. Her name is Dr Kendra Pearsall > and co wrote one of his books with him and also used to work at his > office. > > She lists some interesting supplements that have many vitamins in > them. > > http://shop.worldenlightened.com/c-5-nutrition-products.aspx > > home page is > http://www.myhealthyguide.com > I'm wondering, how do you know if a vitamin is NATURAL? Are there > certain ingredients that you look for that makes it synthetic? ==>Some synthetic supplements are okay to take and others are not, i.e. vitamin E, omega-3, vitamin A & D. The word " Natural " is not regulated so it can be used willy nilly by any company even if all that's natural is the glass bottle. LOL! > > I bought some viatmin C a long time ago at the dollar store and the > bottle says natural. For a buck, I wonder! ==>It is probably okay if it is ascorbic acid, as long as there aren't bad fillers, binders, etc. > > I read that for minerals it must say chelated, and for vitamin e it > can't have the dl, it needs d after it. ==>I do not recommend chelated minerals because amino acids are used to chelate them and they are usually derived from soy. I recommend you only take cal/mag citrate in minerals in addition to ocean sea salt (contains over 84 minerals) which contain elemental amounts as noted in my article. > > Are there any other little tips to look for? ==>Paws, print out this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php Cheers, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Paws, Check out this website for great info on synthetic vs. real vitamins. http://qnlabs.com/ Teoma > > > I'm wondering, how do you know if a vitamin is NATURAL? Are there > certain ingredients that you look for that makes it synthetic? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 > > Paws, > Check out this website for great info on synthetic vs. real vitamins. > http://qnlabs.com/ > Teoma > > > > > > I'm wondering, how do you know if a vitamin is NATURAL? Are there > > certain ingredients that you look for that makes it synthetic? ==>Hi I just wrote about synthetic versus natural vitamins in the last couple of days. Do a search of our archives please. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 It was taken down. jackie > > bee, > why can't I find your website anymore? > Paige > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I am sure Debbie is on the group under another name so it is not a great idea to stress that she is the devil herself; and I can understand a bit in how she feels in that she did a lot of work that she did not get paid for and it was good work; however Bee makes very little. The real blame is all the people like me who go to the web site and get great info that saves their lives and then sends token donations to Bee like my 25 bucks I sent yesterday when some of use pay a MD doctor loads more to not heal us! If all of the thousands of everyone who had been to the site and group had sent Bee $100, her and Debbie would not have been beating each other up to get to this place. Meanwhile, Debbie needs to know that because of her not just letting go people will be not finding a cure and getting help! It is that simple! Bee can you send me her email? Thanks Doug <organyze@...> wrote: I think it can be said that she is a definite " Wanna-Bee. " It is sad that in this world we all face problems similar to this. Whether it is a small church with some obese insane lady who wants to control everything and make everyone just as miserable as she is (as she pretends like she's healthy in every way), or a jealous co-worker who tries to hinder your career advancement every chance he/she gets. Bee... we've all had to endure insane people. Unfortunately, it's part of life. Of course, it would have been best not to associate with such a person in a business relationship to begin with. Proverbs gives some really good advice! But it also says the person who digs a pit for someone else will eventually fall into it. And I'm 100% certain that's what will happen in this case. If there was some way you can provide us contact information for your provider so we can explain you are dealing with a disturbed/psychotic woman instead of a copyright violation, that would be nice. I've seen your site and her site (and she's supposed to be an " internet expert " ?)... I can't see any possible infringement. Her advice... her webpage... her group... are all a joke, for people who are too weak to become well from lack of willpower. Yet they are able to receive encouragement from her, so it makes them feel better about it. Surely, a host can't just yank a webpage without any evidence. I, for one, really dislike the Judas's of this world, and look forward to the Judgment they all deserve. One Day, things will be set right. Believe me! Doug --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 > > I think it can be said that she is a definite " Wanna-Bee. " > > It is sad that in this world we all face problems similar to this. > Whether it is a small church with some obese insane lady who wants to > control everything and make everyone just as miserable as she is (as > she pretends like she's healthy in every way), or a jealous co- worker > who tries to hinder your career advancement every chance he/she gets. > > Bee... we've all had to endure insane people. Unfortunately, it's > part of life. Of course, it would have been best not to associate > with such a person in a business relationship to begin with. > Proverbs gives some really good advice! But it also says the > person who digs a pit for someone else will eventually fall into it. > And I'm 100% certain that's what will happen in this case. > > If there was some way you can provide us contact information for your > provider so we can explain you are dealing with a disturbed/psychotic > woman instead of a copyright violation, that would be nice. I've > seen your site and her site (and she's supposed to be an " internet > expert " ?)... I can't see any possible infringement. Her advice... > her webpage... her group... are all a joke, for people who are > too weak to become well from lack of willpower. Yet they are able to > receive encouragement from her, so it makes them feel better about it. > > Surely, a host can't just yank a webpage without any evidence. I, > for one, really dislike the Judas's of this world, and look forward > to the Judgment they all deserve. One Day, things will be set > right. Believe me! ==>Hi Doug. When I set up my new website nothing that was copyrighted by Debby was used! The only codes we used are universal html codes that can't be copyrighted by anyone. You are right, there are many insane people out there, and I allowed this to occur. I didn't know that Debby had copyrighted the original website when I agreed for her to set it up, which was supposedly done by her in exchange for my personal consultations with her. Now she claims I didn't do any personal consultations ? She conveniently forgot about the calls she made from health store, and the emails and many phone calls I made to help her. My webhost's email for complaints is: abuse@... I am going to write a report to them about how Debby deceived me and didn't divulge that she had total rights to my original website until it was UP for over 6 months. I won't get time until this weekend because I have to dig up the emails between Debby and I when we first agreed to set up the website back in September 2006. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 > > I am sure Debbie is on the group under another name so it is not a great idea to stress that she is the devil herself; and I can understand a bit in how she feels in that she did a lot of work that she did not get paid for and it was good work; however Bee makes very little. ==>Dear Bob. You do " know " that Debby understood I was not able to pay her for her work, but she was very intent on setting up my website because she said " she believed so much in my cause! " However, unbeknownest to me she copyrighted my website and actually owned it without my knowledge nor agreement, even though I paid for everything. We originally agreed to exchange my services for her services, yet now she claims I didn't help her. It was understood at the beginning that I would become independent of her and be able to run my website on my own. Unfortunately she did not abide by our original agreements and wants to be paid (or extract what she feels is due to her) or be in control?? Isn't that called " deception " or " betrayal? " Somewhere in the messages there is a post by Debby that states she isn't setting up my website for " free " because she has the services of the " master " herself!! I wish I could find that message. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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