Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Leona, Sure sounds like Ray got straighten around as soon as they got him back on what works. Don't know why it is so hard to listen to the family who knows what is going on. I would get some ointment or something for his itching as soon as you can.. That has got to be really hard to handle for our LOs as they can't tell anyone what the problem is. I would have thought the staff would have noticed and applied something for relief. Hugs, to you for keeping on, keeping on. Donna R Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other than mine. Update on Ray Ray has been in an almost constant state of agitation (panic attacks or whatever one might term them) for 3 days. When he first got placed in the hospital, for 3 nights he slept about 10-12 hours for no apparent reason. Right off the bat, the hospital neurologist dropped his 12.5 mg dose of afternoon Seroquel and then shortly after that, decided that he might only need 1/2 of his regular dose of Sinemet 3 X a day. He was getting 25/250 each time to begin with. I pointed out to everyone who would listen that I thought the Seroquel was needed in the afternoon to help keep him from a panic attack before dark--to no avail of course. I even had Ray's meds list posted on the wall along with the LBD Warning sheet. Anyway--these last three days have been terrible for him and for my daughters and I. He has gotten very little sleep and consequently neither has whomever stays with him. The nursing staff asked us to continue helping if we could after Ray's episode on Sunday which ended with security guards subduing him. Finally, his regular neurologist (whom I had emailed) came in and looked over all the charts and made the recommendation that the home doses of the medicines be reinstituted. When I left the hospital this afternoon, Ray was sleeping. I just called to check and he was back at sleep after eating a bit, taking his pills and using the bathroom. My son was there to care for him this evening and my sister is staying with him tonight. Hopefully, we can get him back to a fairly steady pattern and keep him there. I am sure he knows enough to know that this is a change and he doesn't like it. Who knows maybe he would just like to go outdoors for a walk. I am posting another message as a response to the " Here's a new one " thread about genetalia itching or burning. Thanks all for listening. I know I would not be as much as an advocate for Ray as I am if I never had found this list. Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 67, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill slide no matter what drugs we try. There's a magical tie to the land of our home, which the heart cannot break, though the footsteps may roam. Eliza Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Thank you to all of you who have emailed messages of support. I get lots of support outside this list but this is support I get when everyone goes home and it is just me here at home alone. Thanks. I was at the nursing home with Ray yesterday through most of the afternoon and into the evening. They had a musician/singer in at 7 pm with his Kareoke machine and guitar in the lounge so I took Ray and we went down for it. Most of the others there were in wheel chairs enjoying the music. Lots of good old tunes were played and when he started an Elvis R & R tune, Ray's feet and hands were keeping time. He got up and started dancing with me. He really enjoyed it. Then later they played some boogey-woogey and we got up and danced to those. The Rec therapy lady took our picture and it was a great time. He even smiled a few times which is unusual for him. Good memory for me. I hope they can get him involved in other activities that will be occuring. I bought him a new flat screen TV and combo DVD and VHS player. My daughter was there (good thing) and set it all up for him. She took her two little ones in to visit. He always enjoys that. The oldest one will be 3 this summer and when we were at home, it was funny she knew things were different for grandpa and she would try to help him sit or stand and when he went out the door she would come crying " papa out " " papa out " . Nobody ever said papa couldn't go out but she knew something was different. I think the new player will play CDs on the DVD player so I have to pack some old country to take down today when my son and I go down. Apparently last night he was not as quiet, he was up and down but they said not agitated or violent at all. Thank God. For me--two good nights of sleep. How much that helps. My oldest daughter and granddaughter went to church with me after a breakfast out this morning. That was very nice since they don't go often. Thanks again, all caregivers--we are praying for all of you every night. Love, Leona Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 67, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill slide no matter what drugs we try. There's a magical tie to the land of our home, which the heart cannot break, though the footsteps may roam. Eliza Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Oh, Leona, the mental picture of the two of you dancing brought happy tears to my eyes. Gotta treasure those moments when we get 'em! Gladys -- Re: Update on Ray Thank you to all of you who have emailed messages of support. I get lots of support outside this list but this is support I get when everyone goes home and it is just me here at home alone. Thanks. I was at the nursing home with Ray yesterday through most of the afternoon and into the evening. They had a musician/singer in at 7 pm with his Kareoke machine and guitar in the lounge so I took Ray and we went down for it. Most of the others there were in wheel chairs enjoying the music. Lots of good old tunes were played and when he started an Elvis R & R tune, Ray's feet and hands were keeping time. He got up and started dancing with me. He really enjoyed it. Then later they played some boogey-woogey and we got up and danced to those. The Rec therapy lady took our picture and it was a great time. He even smiled a few times which is unusual for him. Good memory for me. I hope they can get him involved in other activities that will be occuring. I bought him a new flat screen TV and combo DVD and VHS player. My daughter was there (good thing) and set it all up for him. She took her two little ones in to visit. He always enjoys that. The oldest one will be 3 this summer and when we were at home, it was funny she knew things were different for grandpa and she would try to help him sit or stand and when he went out the door she would come crying " papa out " " papa out " . Nobody ever said papa couldn't go out but she knew something was different. I think the new player will play CDs on the DVD player so I have to pack some old country to take down today when my son and I go down. Apparently last night he was not as quiet, he was up and down but they said not agitated or violent at all. Thank God. For me--two good nights of sleep. How much that helps. My oldest daughter and granddaughter went to church with me after a breakfast out this morning. That was very nice since they don't go often. Thanks again, all caregivers--we are praying for all of you every night. Love, Leona Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 67, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill slide no matter what drugs we try. There's a magical tie to the land of our home, which the heart cannot break, though the footsteps may roam. Eliza Cook ------------------------------------ Welcome to LBDcaregivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Ray has been in the Nursing Home a week today. The kids and I have arranged to have two visits each day as much as we can so that he doesn't feel like a dropped cat. He seems to be OK. I think they are giving him more seroquel than he used to get. He is very mellow, sleepy and quiet. Doesn't seem to be upset about being there which surprised me. Pete took him out for an ice cream Sunday on Tues. I took him to the lovely farm market Thurs and we brought him out today for several hours to go to a family place and spend time with our baby granddaughters. All three went very well. He has had a few panic attacks but i think the extra seroquel has stemmed those somewhat. He has had a couple nights when he has not settled down. The CNAs and nurses are friendly and helpful. We have found him very wet a few times and I don't think he can tell them anymore when he has to go--or won't . He also does not tell them when he is wet. I am not yet certain what the dosages are of the drugs he is on. I know he is sleepy an awful lot. One worry is his bowels. I am trying to note concerns such this as we have a " Care Team Meeting " next Thursday afternoon. The house is very empty and " cold " but I am sleeping well (thank God)and it seems so good. I have lots to do but I don't seem to get focused enough to get much done. After this next week, I will probably cut back on my trips to visit him to every other day. I am going to try to go to be there with his therapy since he seems to do better with one of us there. I am finding lots of extra things to do that I enjoy and feel kind of guilty about it but know that I can't depend on my kids to entertain me and I need to have things to do outside the home. I have a good friend who lets me cry on her shoulder a lot and my kids are in touch with me every day. My sisters and brother are good support and i have other friends I can call on too. So I am very lucky and while it is not what we dreamed of for retirement, I guess it is try that God does not give you more than you can handle. Thank you all for your messages of support and comfort If I do not always respond to other's need for support and their questions, it is that I sometimes feel inadequate to try to answer. There are others much more adept and knowlegeable than I to answer questions. Thanks again, Leona Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 67, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill slide no matter what drugs we try. 5/2/08 Ray was placed in Sunrise Nursing Home in Oswego, NY, 45 minutes from home. So far, so good! Hardest thing I have ever done in my life, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 , has said it so well Leona, that I want to second it. And, also urge you to get involved in anything you like. Be absorbed, even for a few minutes at first. Love you dear Leona, and really feel for you, because I am looking at the same situation at any time. My husband's heart is so bad, he could go today. But, we look forward to many good years. That is our outlook, but the reality is that it may not be, so in any case I want to prepare myself for that eventuality. I hope your new role is easy to adjust to. Love with an open heart, Imogene In a message dated 5/10/2008 11:28:39 AM Central Daylight Time, stim@... writes: Leona, it sounds like you are moving on to your new way of life gently and with much support. Don't ever feel guilty about doing things you enjoy. You count as much as Ray and deserve to find time for you now. You will find the balance that works for you. Wishing you well as you enter this new stage of life. Gibsons BC Mother died Aug. 12, 2006 at age 92 after a 13 year decline from PDD. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Leona, it sounds like you are moving on to your new way of life gently and with much support. Don't ever feel guilty about doing things you enjoy. You count as much as Ray and deserve to find time for you now. You will find the balance that works for you. Wishing you well as you enter this new stage of life. Gibsons BC Mother died Aug. 12, 2006 at age 92 after a 13 year decline from PDD. > > Ray has been in the Nursing Home a week today. The kids and I have arranged > to have two visits each day as much as we can so that he doesn't feel like a > dropped cat. He seems to be OK. I think they are giving him more seroquel > than he used to get. He is very mellow, sleepy and quiet. Doesn't seem to be > upset about being there which surprised me. Pete took him out for an ice > cream Sunday on Tues. I took him to the lovely farm market Thurs and we > brought him out today for several hours to go to a family place and spend > time with our baby granddaughters. All three went very well. He has had a > few panic attacks but i think the extra seroquel has stemmed those somewhat. > He has had a couple nights when he has not settled down. > > The CNAs and nurses are friendly and helpful. We have found him very wet a > few times and I don't think he can tell them anymore when he has to go--or > won't . He also does not tell them when he is wet. I am not yet certain what > the dosages are of the drugs he is on. I know he is sleepy an awful lot. > One worry is his bowels. I am trying to note concerns such this as we have a > " Care Team Meeting " next Thursday afternoon. > > The house is very empty and " cold " but I am sleeping well (thank God)and it > seems so good. I have lots to do but I don't seem to get focused enough to > get much done. After this next week, I will probably cut back on my trips > to visit him to every other day. I am going to try to go to be there with > his therapy since he seems to do better with one of us there. I am finding > lots of extra things to do that I enjoy and feel kind of guilty about it but > know that I can't depend on my kids to entertain me and I need to have > things to do outside the home. I have a good friend who lets me cry on her > shoulder a lot and my kids are in touch with me every day. My sisters and > brother are good support and i have other friends I can call on too. So I am > very lucky and while it is not what we dreamed of for retirement, I guess it > is try that God does not give you more than you can handle. > > Thank you all for your messages of support and comfort If I do not always > respond to other's need for support and their questions, it is that I > sometimes feel inadequate to try to answer. There are others much more adept > and knowlegeable than I to answer questions. Thanks again, Leona > > Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 67, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's > Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill > slide no matter what drugs we try. 5/2/08 Ray was placed in Sunrise Nursing > Home in Oswego, NY, 45 minutes from home. So far, so good! Hardest thing I > have ever done in my life, however. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hi, Leona! I'm glad that things are going fairly well. I can't even imagine how hard this has been for you. Having a parent with LBD is one thing but a spouse is a whole different ball game. (((HUGS))) Gladys -- Update on Ray Ray has been in the Nursing Home a week today. The kids and I have arranged to have two visits each day as much as we can so that he doesn't feel like a dropped cat. He seems to be OK. I think they are giving him more seroquel than he used to get. He is very mellow, sleepy and quiet. Doesn't seem to be upset about being there which surprised me. Pete took him out for an ice cream Sunday on Tues. I took him to the lovely farm market Thurs and we brought him out today for several hours to go to a family place and spend time with our baby granddaughters. All three went very well. He has had a few panic attacks but i think the extra seroquel has stemmed those somewhat. He has had a couple nights when he has not settled down. The CNAs and nurses are friendly and helpful. We have found him very wet a few times and I don't think he can tell them anymore when he has to go--or won't . He also does not tell them when he is wet. I am not yet certain what the dosages are of the drugs he is on. I know he is sleepy an awful lot. One worry is his bowels. I am trying to note concerns such this as we have a " Care Team Meeting " next Thursday afternoon. The house is very empty and " cold " but I am sleeping well (thank God)and it seems so good. I have lots to do but I don't seem to get focused enough to get much done. After this next week, I will probably cut back on my trips to visit him to every other day. I am going to try to go to be there with his therapy since he seems to do better with one of us there. I am finding lots of extra things to do that I enjoy and feel kind of guilty about it but know that I can't depend on my kids to entertain me and I need to have things to do outside the home. I have a good friend who lets me cry on her shoulder a lot and my kids are in touch with me every day. My sisters and brother are good support and i have other friends I can call on too. So I am very lucky and while it is not what we dreamed of for retirement, I guess it is try that God does not give you more than you can handle. Thank you all for your messages of support and comfort If I do not always respond to other's need for support and their questions, it is that I sometimes feel inadequate to try to answer. There are others much more adept and knowlegeable than I to answer questions. Thanks again, Leona Leona: Caregiver for husband Ray, age 67, diagnosed 2/04 with Parkinson's Disease. Changed doctors, diagnosed 6/06 with LBD. Almost continual downhill slide no matter what drugs we try. 5/2/08 Ray was placed in Sunrise Nursing Home in Oswego, NY, 45 minutes from home. So far, so good! Hardest thing I have ever done in my life, however. ------------------------------------ Welcome to LBDcaregivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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