Re: OT: Victory in New York, All new vaccine mandates squashed

[Guest guest]

This is wonderful news, great work, (and so very much ON topic).

Lenny

>

> It's official, New York Assembly Bill A 10942, the " worst vaccine

bill ever " and the mandatory meningococcal vaccine bill it morphed

into late in the session are dead. And they were killed by parents who

just aren't going to let pharma kick them around anymore.

>

> Another vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get vaccines

for sexually-transmitted diseases without parents permission or

knowledge went down to an ignominious defeat when the Assembly Health

committee refused to even consider it.

>

> This represents the fourth defeat in a row, with no wins, for the

vaccine industry in New York, last year an mandatory HPV bill was killed.

>

> As usual with most vaccine bills in New York, they were submitted

late in the session which limits the time that the opposition has to

make arguments against a proposal. The original A 10942 was submitted

at the request of the Health Department and would have caused a

sweeping restructuring of NY vaccine policy; all CDC recommended

vaccines would have become mandatory for all children, including those

too young to enter school, and all new CDC recommended vaccines would

automatically become mandatory.

>

> A 10942 was greeted by a rally of hundreds of parents from all

around the state, many were parent of vaccine-injured children, others

though have healthy children and would like to see them stay healthy.

A broad cross section of organizations were involved, autism

organization, holistic health groups, libertarians, and many others

came together for the first time in joint political action. Legisltive

aides report a flood of phone calls, faxes, letters and emails in

opposition.

>

> The legislature responded with scaling the bill back to require the

menigoccocal shot for seventh graders. This new version was introduced

last Friday and on Monday there were new demonstrations by parents

both in Albany and in front of the Long Island office of State Senator

Kemp Hannon who introduced the meningitis legislation. The bill died

today with the adjournment of the legislature.

>

> Organizers of the successful campaign will be holding meetings and

conferences to make sure that in the next session of the legislature

that the philosophical exemption bills sponsored by State Senator

Padavan and Assemblymember Mark Alessi are passed. And in a new

twist on vaccines rights, New Yorkers will be working to introduce

legislation that will drop vaccines from the mandatory list. The first

target will be hepatitis b, a shot given to newborns ostensibly to

prevent a sexually transmitted disease.

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations, and all those who helped make this possible.

I LOVE NEW YORK!

Maurine

Subject: OT: Victory in New York, All new vaccine mandates squashedTo: EOHarm , achamp , chelatingkids2 , taca-usa , privatetopic , abmd , autism-mercury , orangecountyfamilies , unyfeat , Mosaic-List Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 7:44 PM

It's official, New York Assembly Bill A 10942, the "worst vaccine bill ever" and the mandatory meningococcal vaccine bill it morphed into late in the session are dead. And they were killed by parents who just aren't going to let pharma kick them around anymore.Another vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get vaccines for sexually-transmitte d diseases without parents permission or knowledge went down to an ignominious defeat when the Assembly Health committee refused to even consider it. This represents the fourth defeat in a row, with no wins, for the vaccine industry in New York, last year an mandatory HPV bill was killed.As usual with most vaccine bills in New York, they were submitted late in the session which limits the time that the opposition has to make arguments against a proposal. The original A 10942 was submitted at the request of the Health Department and would have caused a sweeping restructuring of NY

vaccine policy; all CDC recommended vaccines would have become mandatory for all children, including those too young to enter school, and all new CDC recommended vaccines would automatically become mandatory. A 10942 was greeted by a rally of hundreds of parents from all around the state, many were parent of vaccine-injured children, others though have healthy children and would like to see them stay healthy. A broad cross section of organizations were involved, autism organization, holistic health groups, libertarians, and many others came together for the first time in joint political action. Legisltive aides report a flood of phone calls, faxes, letters and emails in opposition.The legislature responded with scaling the bill back to require the menigoccocal shot for seventh graders. This new version was introduced last Friday and on Monday there were new demonstrations by parents both in Albany and in front of the Long Island office

of State Senator Kemp Hannon who introduced the meningitis legislation. The bill died today with the adjournment of the legislature.Organizers of the successful campaign will be holding meetings and conferences to make sure that in the next session of the legislature that the philosophical exemption bills sponsored by State Senator Padavan and Assemblymember Mark Alessi are passed. And in a new twist on vaccines rights, New Yorkers will be working to introduce legislation that will drop vaccines from the mandatory list. The first target will be hepatitis b, a shot given to newborns ostensibly to prevent a sexually transmitted disease.

[Guest guest]

I knew it would happen!! How bout those New Yorkers! You ROCK!!!

> >

> > It's official, New York Assembly Bill A 10942, the " worst vaccine

> bill ever " and the mandatory meningococcal vaccine bill it morphed

> into late in the session are dead. And they were killed by parents who

> just aren't going to let pharma kick them around anymore.

> >

> > Another vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get vaccines

> for sexually-transmitted diseases without parents permission or

> knowledge went down to an ignominious defeat when the Assembly Health

> committee refused to even consider it.

> >

> > This represents the fourth defeat in a row, with no wins, for the

> vaccine industry in New York, last year an mandatory HPV bill was

killed.

> >

> > As usual with most vaccine bills in New York, they were submitted

> late in the session which limits the time that the opposition has to

> make arguments against a proposal. The original A 10942 was submitted

> at the request of the Health Department and would have caused a

> sweeping restructuring of NY vaccine policy; all CDC recommended

> vaccines would have become mandatory for all children, including those

> too young to enter school, and all new CDC recommended vaccines would

> automatically become mandatory.

> >

> > A 10942 was greeted by a rally of hundreds of parents from all

> around the state, many were parent of vaccine-injured children, others

> though have healthy children and would like to see them stay healthy.

> A broad cross section of organizations were involved, autism

> organization, holistic health groups, libertarians, and many others

> came together for the first time in joint political action. Legisltive

> aides report a flood of phone calls, faxes, letters and emails in

> opposition.

> >

> > The legislature responded with scaling the bill back to require the

> menigoccocal shot for seventh graders. This new version was introduced

> last Friday and on Monday there were new demonstrations by parents

> both in Albany and in front of the Long Island office of State Senator

> Kemp Hannon who introduced the meningitis legislation. The bill died

> today with the adjournment of the legislature.

> >

> > Organizers of the successful campaign will be holding meetings and

> conferences to make sure that in the next session of the legislature

> that the philosophical exemption bills sponsored by State Senator

> Padavan and Assemblymember Mark Alessi are passed. And in a new

> twist on vaccines rights, New Yorkers will be working to introduce

> legislation that will drop vaccines from the mandatory list. The first

> target will be hepatitis b, a shot given to newborns ostensibly to

> prevent a sexually transmitted disease.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Way to go, New Yorkers!!!!!!!!!

Barb

OT: Victory in New York, All new vaccine mandates squashed

It's official, New York Assembly Bill A 10942, the "worst vaccine bill ever" and the mandatory meningococcal vaccine bill it morphed into late in the session are dead. And they were killed by parents who just aren't going to let pharma kick them around anymore.Another vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get vaccines for sexually-transmitted diseases without parents permission or knowledge went down to an ignominious defeat when the Assembly Health committee refused to even consider it. This represents the fourth defeat in a row, with no wins, for the vaccine industry in New York, last year an mandatory HPV bill was killed.As usual with most vaccine bills in New York, they were submitted late in the session which limits the time that the opposition has to make arguments against a proposal. The original A 10942 was submitted at the request of the Health Department and would have caused a sweeping restructuring of NY vaccine policy; all CDC recommended vaccines would have become mandatory for all children, including those too young to enter school, and all new CDC recommended vaccines would automatically become mandatory. A 10942 was greeted by a rally of hundreds of parents from all around the state, many were parent of vaccine-injured children, others though have healthy children and would like to see them stay healthy. A broad cross section of organizations were involved, autism organization, holistic health groups, libertarians, and many others came together for the first time in joint political action. Legisltive aides report a flood of phone calls, faxes, letters and emails in opposition.The legislature responded with scaling the bill back to require the menigoccocal shot for seventh graders. This new version was introduced last Friday and on Monday there were new demonstrations by parents both in Albany and in front of the Long Island office of State Senator Kemp Hannon who introduced the meningitis legislation. The bill died today with the adjournment of the legislature.Organizers of the successful campaign will be holding meetings and conferences to make sure that in the next session of the legislature that the philosophical exemption bills sponsored by State Senator Padavan and Assemblymember Mark Alessi are passed. And in a new twist on vaccines rights, New Yorkers will be working to introduce legislation that will drop vaccines from the mandatory list. The first target will be hepatitis b, a shot given to newborns ostensibly to prevent a sexually transmitted disease.

[Guest guest]

Yes- thanks to , Rita, Marc Alessi (from my hometown) and everyone else involved!!!! I feel like I can let out a HUGE breath

-

Way to go, New Yorkers!!!!!!!!!

Barb

OT: Victory in New York, All new vaccine mandates squashed

It's official, New York Assembly Bill A 10942, the " worst vaccine bill ever " and the mandatory meningococcal vaccine bill it morphed into late in the session are dead. And they were killed by parents who just aren't going to let pharma kick them around anymore.

Another vaccine bill that would have allowed minors to get vaccines for sexually-transmitted diseases without parents permission or knowledge went down to an ignominious defeat when the Assembly Health committee refused to even consider it.

This represents the fourth defeat in a row, with no wins, for the vaccine industry in New York, last year an mandatory HPV bill was killed.

As usual with most vaccine bills in New York, they were submitted late in the session which limits the time that the opposition has to make arguments against a proposal. The original A 10942 was submitted at the request of the Health Department and would have caused a sweeping restructuring of NY vaccine policy; all CDC recommended vaccines would have become mandatory for all children, including those too young to enter school, and all new CDC recommended vaccines would automatically become mandatory.

A 10942 was greeted by a rally of hundreds of parents from all around the state, many were parent of vaccine-injured children, others though have healthy children and would like to see them stay healthy. A broad cross section of organizations were involved, autism organization, holistic health groups, libertarians, and many others came together for the first time in joint political action. Legisltive aides report a flood of phone calls, faxes, letters and emails in opposition.

The legislature responded with scaling the bill back to require the menigoccocal shot for seventh graders. This new version was introduced last Friday and on Monday there were new demonstrations by parents both in Albany and in front of the Long Island office of State Senator Kemp Hannon who introduced the meningitis legislation. The bill died today with the adjournment of the legislature.

Organizers of the successful campaign will be holding meetings and conferences to make sure that in the next session of the legislature that the philosophical exemption bills sponsored by State Senator Padavan and Assemblymember Mark Alessi are passed. And in a new twist on vaccines rights, New Yorkers will be working to introduce legislation that will drop vaccines from the mandatory list. The first target will be hepatitis b, a shot given to newborns ostensibly to prevent a sexually transmitted disease.

[Guest guest]

Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In the NWO

vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you ask me. Just

like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've been

fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in order for the

U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in compliance, i

believe by next year. Some European contries already are. This will do

away with all our health food stores, which means alternative medicine

will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

Connie

[Guest guest]

This will only happen if we don't continue to fight like hell to

stop it. Don't under estimate what we can do.

>

> Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In the NWO

> vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you ask me.

Just

> like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've been

> fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in order

for the

> U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

compliance, i

> believe by next year. Some European contries already are. This

will do

> away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

medicine

> will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

>

>

> Connie

>

[Guest guest]

What i don't under estimate are the forces behind the governments and

the drive by these insane radicals the Bilbergers. If they won't stop

at killing our children, they won't stop at nothing. And if Americans

can't stop them from killing our babies, i don't see them stopping

Codex either.

Connie

> >

> > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In the

NWO

> > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you ask

me.

> Just

> > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've been

> > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in order

> for the

> > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> compliance, i

> > believe by next year. Some European contries already are. This

> will do

> > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> medicine

> > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> >

> >

> > Connie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

So what are you suggesting? We should just give up because we have

powerful opponents?

> > >

> > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In the

> NWO

> > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you ask

> me.

> > Just

> > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've been

> > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in order

> > for the

> > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > compliance, i

> > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are. This

> > will do

> > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> > medicine

> > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> > >

> > >

> > > Connie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That is an option I am not ready to accept. I'm still angry, and its been four years. I don't see acceptance as an option.

Primer who lives in Oceanside but is in Carlsbad Unified School District

~All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -- Arthur Schopenhauer

~Well-behaved women seldom make history~ Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

Re: OT: Victory in New York, All new vaccine mandates squashed

So what are you suggesting? We should just give up because we havepowerful opponents?> > >> > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In the > NWO > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you ask > me. > > Just > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've been > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in order > > for the > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in > > compliance, i > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are. This > > will do > > > away with all our health food

stores, which means alternative > > medicine > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.> > > > > > > > > Connie> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Good, because continuing to fight for our kids is the only option we

have. Stay tuned. Come January, after a good bit of preparation, we

intend to smack the opposition right out of their arrogant

complacency, and we need all the help we can get.

> > > >

> > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In the

> > NWO

> > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you ask

> > me.

> > > Just

> > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've been

> > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in order

> > > for the

> > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > compliance, i

> > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are. This

> > > will do

> > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> > > medicine

> > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Connie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

> Primer who lives in Oceansidebut is in CarlsbadUnifiedSchool

District

> ~All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.

Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being

self-evident.  -- Arthur Schopenhauer

> ~Well-behaved women seldom make history~ Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

>

[Guest guest]

What i'm saying is that as much as folks don't want to except it,

your fighting a loosing battle. These insane radicals mean buisness

and they have a very powerful force backing them, Satan the devil.

The solution is to obtain an accurate understanding of what God

requires of us right now and **be doing it.** God new it would get

bad, we can see that from the scriptures. We need to be asking

ourselves what does God want from us while we are going through such

terrible times. It seems most are more interested in what **they**

think **they** need to be doing. People who have been victimized by

vaccines are not the only ones suffering. People are suffering in one

form or another, to one degree or another all over the world and it's

going to continue to get **worse** not better. Again, the question

all humans on earth need to be asking is **what does God want from

us.** He has the means to bring this to an end and he **has** stated

what this way is in his word the Bible. That is where our answer is.

The problem is that most humans have given up on God. They've stopped

searching for the answers and there all right there.

Connie

> > > >

> > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In

the

> > NWO

> > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you

ask

> > me.

> > > Just

> > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've

been

> > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in

order

> > > for the

> > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > compliance, i

> > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are.

This

> > > will do

> > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> > > medicine

> > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Connie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

" The problem is that most humans have given up on God. They've stopped

searching for the answers and there all right there " .

Do you have any tangible answers from God that we can work with? I

really don't mean to sound condescending but honestly I am happy that

these parents and organizations went out and fought this crap and

won... until the next time... when they'll have to do it again (or

another state will have to do the same thing). I'm all for God but I

certainly don't think that we should sit around and wait for God to

clean up this mess....

> > > > >

> > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In

> the

> > > NWO

> > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you

> ask

> > > me.

> > > > Just

> > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've

> been

> > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in

> order

> > > > for the

> > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > > compliance, i

> > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are.

> This

> > > > will do

> > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> > > > medicine

> > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Connie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I for one will not be silenced and will do all that I

can...............and know that it makes a difference. We all make a

difference.

My creator is much bigger than all of this and not limited by man's ideas.

That spirit runs through all of us.

I have no such limits in my view of life and what is possible

I encourage you to open to more possibilities from your spiritual source

Sheri

At 10:35 PM 6/26/2008, you wrote:

>What i'm saying is that as much as folks don't want to except it,

>your fighting a loosing battle. These insane radicals mean buisness

>and they have a very powerful force backing them, Satan the devil.

>The solution is to obtain an accurate understanding of what God

>requires of us right now and **be doing it.** God new it would get

>bad, we can see that from the scriptures. We need to be asking

>ourselves what does God want from us while we are going through such

>terrible times. It seems most are more interested in what **they**

>think **they** need to be doing. People who have been victimized by

>vaccines are not the only ones suffering. People are suffering in one

>form or another, to one degree or another all over the world and it's

>going to continue to get **worse** not better. Again, the question

>all humans on earth need to be asking is **what does God want from

>us.** He has the means to bring this to an end and he **has** stated

>what this way is in his word the Bible. That is where our answer is.

>The problem is that most humans have given up on God. They've stopped

>searching for the answers and there all right there.

>

>Connie

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses

[Guest guest]

To Connie:

I am in not taking a side one way or another on my religious beliefs, because

frankly, it's a

very personal thing to me, but I will say that doing nothing and spreading " doom

and

gloom " is not the answer. I will continue to fight for the truth as long as I

live.

If you want to look at it from a religious standpoint, have you considered that

maybe God

is working through those that do choose to fight?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In

> > the

> > > > NWO

> > > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you

> > ask

> > > > me.

> > > > > Just

> > > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've

> > been

> > > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in

> > order

> > > > > for the

> > > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > > > compliance, i

> > > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are.

> > This

> > > > > will do

> > > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> > > > > medicine

> > > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Connie

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Connie,

with all due respect for your religious beliefs, I think we need to rely on oursleves to

bring about change for our children and grandchildren. I would have no idea what God wants from me, but I can tell you what my grandson needs from me. Let's keep this discussion more earthy and grounded where we can see the damage that's being done.

maurine

Subject: Re: OT: Victory in New York, All new vaccine mandates squashedTo: EOHarm Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 5:35 PM

What i'm saying is that as much as folks don't want to except it, your fighting a loosing battle. These insane radicals mean buisness and they have a very powerful force backing them, Satan the devil. The solution is to obtain an accurate understanding of what God requires of us right now and **be doing it.** God new it would get bad, we can see that from the scriptures. We need to be asking ourselves what does God want from us while we are going through such terrible times. It seems most are more interested in what **they** think **they** need to be doing. People who have been victimized by vaccines are not the only ones suffering. People are suffering in one form or another, to one degree or another all over the world and it's going to continue to get **worse** not better. Again, the question all humans on earth need to be asking is **what does God want from us.** He has the means to bring this to

an end and he **has** stated what this way is in his word the Bible. That is where our answer is. The problem is that most humans have given up on God. They've stopped searching for the answers and there all right there.Connie> > > >> > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In the > > NWO > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you ask > > me. > >

> Just > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've been > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in order > > > for the > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in > > > compliance, i > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are. This > > > will do > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative > > > medicine > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.> > > > > > > > > > > > Connie> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Connie, while I understand where you are coming from. I also believe

that God will only help those who at least try to help themselves. I

don't believe fighting evil is a losing battle and calling it a losing

battle is only giving evil more power. I know God will see us through

this if we have faith that he will. But we can't simply sit back and

do nothing (put it in God's hands) while we wait for the rest of the

world to find faith. Part of the defending your faith is fighting

evil, and giving thanks and praise for every little victory.

> > > > >

> > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In

> the

> > > NWO

> > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you

> ask

> > > me.

> > > > Just

> > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've

> been

> > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in

> order

> > > > for the

> > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > > compliance, i

> > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are.

> This

> > > > will do

> > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> > > > medicine

> > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Connie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent, excellent point!

> If you want to look at it from a religious standpoint, have you

considered that maybe God

> is working through those that do choose to fight?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. You can't just sit on your couch and a)expect it to get better or

b)sit there and

throw in the towel. Heck, if nothing else - pray! That's a very powerful

weapon!

Personally, that's what I do every single day. That's one piece of my

contribution to this

battle. I personally have faith that it will get better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In

> > the

> > > > NWO

> > > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you

> > ask

> > > > me.

> > > > > Just

> > > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've

> > been

> > > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in

> > order

> > > > > for the

> > > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > > > compliance, i

> > > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are.

> > This

> > > > > will do

> > > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative

> > > > > medicine

> > > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Connie

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future.

In

> > the

> > > > NWO

> > > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if

you

> > ask

> > > > me.

> > > > > Just

> > > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which

we've

> > been

> > > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in

> > order

> > > > > for the

> > > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > > > compliance, i

> > > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are.

> > This

> > > > > will do

> > > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means

alternative

> > > > > medicine

> > > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting

indeed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Connie

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Connie, while I understand where you are coming from. I also

> believe

> > that God will only help those who at least try to help themselves.

>

You know, they crucified my son when they gave him the fist pill to

control the psychosis. They crucified my son when they didn't tell me

the truth concerning the dangers of their trash they call medicine.

They crucifed my baby with ever shot they ever gave him. You see how i

could get all caught up in the anger of it all. Oh and I was angry for

a while, at the gov't for not doing their job, i was angry at the world

for the lack of love that exist. This anger lead to the realization of

what Jesus did and what that sacrifice really meant and God and i

connected. If i had done with my son what Jehovah God did with His,

**the very least i would expect** is the people that he died for,

**listen** to him. The very least they could do is diasect his every

word and **follow** it to the very best of their ability. I won't keep

going on , but with all due respect, i don't think people (myself

included) ****deserve anything**** from God if their not listening to

His son Jesus. And when we get caught up in doing what **we think** we

should be doing, we loose touch with what God ask us to be doing.

Connie

[Guest guest]

Connie,

I feel compelled to tell you that some religions don't view jesus as the son of god nor do they view jesus as the saviour.

Maurine

Subject: Re: OT: Victory in New York, All new vaccine mandates squashedTo: EOHarm Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 4:10 AM

> > > > > >> > > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future. In > > the > > > > NWO > > > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if you > > ask > > > > me. > > > > > Just > > > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which we've > > been > > > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it

down, but in > > order > > > > > for the > > > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in > > > > > compliance, i > > > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are. > > This > > > > > will do > > > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means alternative > > > > > medicine > > > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting indeed.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connie> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Really?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the

future.

> In

> > > the

> > > > > NWO

> > > > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if

> you

> > > ask

> > > > > me.

> > > > > > Just

> > > > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which

> we've

> > > been

> > > > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but

in

> > > order

> > > > > > for the

> > > > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be

in

> > > > > > compliance, i

> > > > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already

are.

> > > This

> > > > > > will do

> > > > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means

> alternative

> > > > > > medicine

> > > > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting

> indeed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Connie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

lol

> >

> > Connie,

> > I feel compelled to tell you that some religions don't view jesus

> as the son of god nor do they view  jesus as the saviour.

> > Maurine

> >

[Guest guest]

Okay, I understand better what you mean now. I see that you are *not*

giving up....I was worried you were!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Victory now, but this allows us to see into the future.

> In

> > > the

> > > > > NWO

> > > > > > > vaccines will be required in all ages. Pretty scary if

> you

> > > ask

> > > > > me.

> > > > > > Just

> > > > > > > like Codex (UN international trade regulation), which

> we've

> > > been

> > > > > > > fighting for years. We've managed to slow it down, but in

> > > order

> > > > > > for the

> > > > > > > U.S. to participate in international trade we must be in

> > > > > > compliance, i

> > > > > > > believe by next year. Some European contries already are.

> > > This

> > > > > > will do

> > > > > > > away with all our health food stores, which means

> alternative

> > > > > > medicine

> > > > > > > will no longer exist. 2009 will be very interesting

> indeed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Connie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>