Mold Scam or False Negative?

[Guest guest]

Here's an interesting news report for us to chew on:

" Pure Kleen Says We've Got Mold, Test Results Show

Otherwise "

Part 2 of WHNT NEWS 19 Taking Action Investigation

Halloran Chief Investigative Reporter

November 2, 2009

http://www.whnt.com/news/takingaction/whnt-pure-kleen-

folo,0,2911559.story

My comments and then I'd like to hear what others think.

1. The Pure Kleen method of assessing mold, as described, is

inaccurate and an abuse of a testing protocol. It appears to be

used as a " dog and pony show " to sell their services, not as an

accurate assessment of what is needed.

2. The " expert " method to counter them, as best I can tell, is also

inaccurate and a possible abuse of a testing protocol IF he only

sampled. Sampling without a context is very inaccurate and

usually results in a false negative report. Dismissing results on

the basis of " mold is everywhere " ignores the very real possibility

that sensitive individuals are reacting to it and the mold should be

removed.

So how does one determine if there is mold, if it is a problem, and

if it needs a remediation company?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

[Guest guest]

I think that you need to determine first what type of mold is present

(if you can get an accurate result from stachy) and then assess its

toxicity. Removal of the mold and repair of the cause is the only way

to properly address the problem. I don't know what else you can do if

that is too costly.

Barth

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CEG> Here's an interesting news report for us to chew on:

CEG> " Pure Kleen Says We've Got Mold, Test Results Show

CEG> Otherwise "

CEG> Part 2 of WHNT NEWS 19 Taking Action Investigation

CEG> Halloran Chief Investigative Reporter

CEG> November 2, 2009

CEG> http://www.whnt.com/news/takingaction/whnt-pure-kleen-

CEG> folo,0,2911559.story

CEG> My comments and then I'd like to hear what others think.

CEG> 1. The Pure Kleen method of assessing mold, as described, is

CEG> inaccurate and an abuse of a testing protocol. It appears to be

CEG> used as a " dog and pony show " to sell their services, not as an

CEG> accurate assessment of what is needed.

CEG> 2. The " expert " method to counter them, as best I can tell, is also

CEG> inaccurate and a possible abuse of a testing protocol IF he only

CEG> sampled. Sampling without a context is very inaccurate and

CEG> usually results in a false negative report. Dismissing results on

CEG> the basis of " mold is everywhere " ignores the very real possibility

CEG> that sensitive individuals are reacting to it and the mold should be

CEG> removed.

CEG> So how does one determine if there is mold, if it is a problem, and

CEG> if it needs a remediation company?

CEG> Carl Grimes

CEG> Healthy Habitats LLC

CEG>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, .

I agree with the second part, about removing it. I also agree with

the first part about determining toxicity of the mold, but only if it

can be tested affordably. Many jobs can be repaired for the $700-

900 dollars per sample for toxicity testing. So just remove it.

But this is where I'm stuck. If there is mold growth you should

remove it. Period. No testing required. But the example in the TV

News case revolves around the question of is it mold? Even if it

is, does it need to be removed? For the cost of a professional?

Other responses?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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I think that you need to determine first what type of mold is present

(if you can get an accurate result from stachy) and then assess its

toxicity. Removal of the mold and repair of the cause is the only way

to properly address the problem. I don't know what else you can do if

that is too costly.

Barth

---

CEG> Here's an interesting news report for us to chew on:

CEG> " Pure Kleen Says We've Got Mold, Test Results Show

CEG> Otherwise "

CEG> Part 2 of WHNT NEWS 19 Taking Action Investigation

CEG> Halloran Chief Investigative Reporter

CEG> November 2, 2009

CEG> http://www.whnt. com/news/takingaction/whnt-pure-kleen-

CEG> folo,0,2911559.story

CEG> My comments and then I'd like to hear what others think.

CEG> 1. The Pure Kleen method of assessing mold, as described, is

CEG> inaccurate and an abuse of a testing protocol. It appears to be

CEG> used as a " dog and pony show " to sell their services, not as an

CEG> accurate assessment of what is needed.

CEG> 2. The " expert " method to counter them, as best I can tell, is also

CEG> inaccurate and a possible abuse of a testing protocol IF he only

CEG> sampled. Sampling without a context is very inaccurate and

CEG> usually results in a false negative report. Dismissing results on

CEG> the basis of " mold is everywhere " ignores the very real possibility

CEG> that sensitive individuals are reacting to it and the mold should be

CEG> removed.

CEG> So how does one determine if there is mold, if it is a problem, and

CEG> if it needs a remediation company?

CEG> Carl Grimes

CEG> Healthy Habitats LLC

CEG>