Please help

[Guest guest]

I take it you've never dealt with sewer issues. a indoor environmental isuue all

on it's on. you might want to rethink on that subject. maybe you should

consider the art of hopeful instead of

EXTREME.

> >

> > Tug, I dont like to think back to those days but I do, and I know it can all

seem hopeless but it's not, just take one day at a time.

> > the most important thing right now is getting to felling better.

> > hopefully when your sister returns home the house well be fine and all this

worrying well have been for nothing. it could have just been the wind causeing a

sewer smell back up or something like that.

> > just some freak thing that wont happen again.

> > a live xmas tree could gas off a chemical and give people headackes and so

forth. and theres things that dont have a smell that can make people sick with

headackes,ect.

> > hang in there.

>

[Guest guest]

savy about sewer gas?

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA309122

even outside.

Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) gas

OSHA warns that levels of 300 ppm cause the olfactory nerve to lose sensitivity.

At first a " rotten egg " odor is detected but on the second or third breath, the

odor is no longer noticed. At 600 ppm, breathing is inhibited, as the lungs fill

with the gas.

At higher levels, paralysis of the lungs occurs.

http://www.swopnet.com/engr/Gayman/Gayman_H2S.html

> > >

> > > Tug, I dont like to think back to those days but I do, and I know it can

all seem hopeless but it's not, just take one day at a time.

> > > the most important thing right now is getting to felling better.

> > > hopefully when your sister returns home the house well be fine and all

this worrying well have been for nothing. it could have just been the wind

causeing a sewer smell back up or something like that.

> > > just some freak thing that wont happen again.

> > > a live xmas tree could gas off a chemical and give people headackes and so

forth. and theres things that dont have a smell that can make people sick with

headackes,ect.

> > > hang in there.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

headackes + these were just a few quick links I grabbed for ya. if you want you

could always go under your house and upcap a sewer pipe for a few days and see

how you fell, or create a backdraft through the venting like weather will

sometimes do, more often if plumbing is not properly vented anyway which

happens, probably more often than most realize. I wont resort to calling you a

drama queen even though it did cross my mind. I simply fell that the last thing

anyone needs is drama on top of this situation. like someone stated, it's

stressful enough to read on this topic to educate ourselfs.

now I'm a pretty openminded person, have always prided myself on my ability to

look at veiws from several angles, what I am saying is that we just consider

that newbees comeing here can be anywhere on the scale of depression and stress.

there are people that hurt theirselfs under these condictions all the time. I

dont want to be a part of that, do you?

to a large extent, in many ares of this ordeal, we have to find out own ways.

support, not being extreme, not scareing or stressing people out more, support.

I got the extreme bs when I first came here several years ago, it didn't help me

at all, and I think you know how I ended up felling about the one who did that.

I'd kindof like to knock his lights out for that, is that how you want others to

fell about you down the road?

>

> savy about sewer gas?

> http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA309122

>

> even outside.

> Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) gas

> OSHA warns that levels of 300 ppm cause the olfactory nerve to lose

sensitivity. At first a " rotten egg " odor is detected but on the second or third

breath, the odor is no longer noticed. At 600 ppm, breathing is inhibited, as

the lungs fill with the gas.

> At higher levels, paralysis of the lungs occurs.

>

> http://www.swopnet.com/engr/Gayman/Gayman_H2S.html

>=

[Guest guest]

PS, I sence that you have alot of anger issues over this happening to you, no

doubt, we all do, nothing fair about it. hope is sometimes what gets us through

bad situations, dont ever give up on hope.

> >

> > Tug, I dont like to think back to those days but I do, and I know it can all

seem hopeless but it's not, just take one day at a time.

> > the most important thing right now is getting to felling better.

> > hopefully when your sister returns home the house well be fine and all this

worrying well have been for nothing. it could have just been the wind causeing a

sewer smell back up or something like that.

> > just some freak thing that wont happen again.

> > a live xmas tree could gas off a chemical and give people headackes and so

forth. and theres things that dont have a smell that can make people sick with

headackes,ect.

> > hang in there.

>

[Guest guest]

Calling the therapy that works for a great number of people, that is avoidance

of mold, bs is way too much, please stop. The most important part of getting

healthy from mold is avoidance, you must know that.

>

> headackes + these were just a few quick links I grabbed for ya. if you want

you could always go under your house and upcap a sewer pipe for a few days and

see how you fell, or create a backdraft through the venting like weather will

sometimes do, more often if plumbing is not properly vented anyway which

happens, probably more often than most realize. I wont resort to calling you a

drama queen even though it did cross my mind. I simply fell that the last thing

anyone needs is drama on top of this situation. like someone stated, it's

stressful enough to read on this topic to educate ourselfs.

[Guest guest]

, I think its reasonable to discuss other things. There was a guy in this

forum for quite a long time, miserable and finally decided the timing of his

problem may have coincided with some rugs he picked up at Goodwill, 4 or 5 to

cover his whole floor. He threw them out and problem was gone and he's never

been back. We had a toilet that broke so we stopped using it. A long time

later an odor developed in basement. I looked all over the place, figured it

was a corner of foundation that we couldn't get to to fix and figured I'd have

to give up on house and move, and then discovered by accident that all the water

in broken toilet had evaporated in the 'catch' and so sewer gases were coming

into house there. You need to consider other things too. Leaving is the safest

thing if you can do it, if you can find some place safe. Outside is not safest

place for everyone.

>

> Calling the therapy that works for a great number of people, that is avoidance

of mold, bs is way too much, please stop. The most important part of getting

healthy from mold is avoidance, you must know that.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a friend who drove here from Phoenix and she gave me a ride from a

restaurant to my car, and the air in her car about choked me, so thick with

moldy smell for just the short drive. In AZ and some of those dry very hot

states, cars may be worse than houses since they get hotter and don't need a

'water leak' to grow mold but just running the AC.

>

> You are right there DR Thrasher. This past year was particularly bad for me,

and after the dogs contaminated my jeep 's air system, No matter how much I

cleaned it,(took entire air system apart, took out all seats, headliners,

carpet), I could not tolerate it again. It was the hot summer, every car after

that seemed to have a moldy AC, which bothered me even if I did not turn it on.

I finally found one car to rent that did not make me sick, but buying seemed

impossible. Then I decided to bite the bullet and buy new. But they turn the AC

on and off so much, that even new cars with 100 mi on them made me sick.

[Guest guest]

The word adviodance without the word extreme in front of it,sounds great.

Dr Croft was the one that gave me direction of advoidence of all chemicals way

before I came to sbs. and my house told me to get out and stay out.

when you corralate a smell to be makeing you sick, most people advoid the smell.

>

> Calling the therapy that works for a great number of people, that is avoidance

of mold, bs is way too much, please stop. The most important part of getting

healthy from mold is avoidance, you must know that.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I remember that Barb, I also had tried to save a rug I had, I washed it at a car

wash thinking it might be saved, it didn't work. I can see where things like

mattresses, rugs, stuffed furniture brought to another place well continue to

make people sick who have been sensitized and could make other people have

smaller reactions, headacke, nasal irritation, but removeing those things might

also just solve the problem. cross contamination to me would be where it is

basicly rubbed off onto other articles, from cloths mostly.

or if you move into another moldy place with your moldy belongings

and whats on them basicly starts growing. been there done that.

I think to many people think everything that causes a reaction is mold related.

granted it might be involved in many things, but the dose may be low enough that

it's not what your reacting to.

other smells in a home can hinder the ability to aways smell whats bugging

people, cooking, purfumes,ect. some things dont have a smell but you can judge

by reactions that somethings there.

if I get through a store only to get to the check out line and have my legs

wanting to go out from under me and my speach becomeing difficult,ect. there

might be 10 different things there that are just wipeing me out and I dont even

care what they are, I just have to get out of there. theres the checkers

purfume, all the plastic bags, things that leak on the belt or the chemicals

they clean it with,more people with purfumes,ect. if I can talk someone else

into going in the store for me, I will. sometimes it's a combination of many

things, sometimes it's just one. I'm a hudge believer that dose

plays a hudge role even though I also know that a very small dose of something

that just hangs around can make me get sicker and sicker.

just like a very high dose of filth in a WDB will basicly run you out of that

house sooner than later, while a lower dose might keep you liveing there for

years. been there done both.

>

> , I think its reasonable to discuss other things. There was a guy in

this forum for quite a long time, miserable and finally decided the timing of

his problem may have coincided with some rugs he picked up at Goodwill, 4 or 5

to cover his whole floor. He threw them out and problem was gone and he's never

been back. We had a toilet that broke so we stopped using it. A long time

later an odor developed in basement. I looked all over the place, figured it

was a corner of foundation that we couldn't get to to fix and figured I'd have

to give up on house and move, and then discovered by accident that all the water

in broken toilet had evaporated in the 'catch' and so sewer gases were coming

into house there. You need to consider other things too. Leaving is the safest

thing if you can do it, if you can find some place safe. Outside is not safest

place for everyone.

>

[Guest guest]

I know a guy that got MCS from his work, he was around several chemicals all

day, this was 2003, his company sent him to Dr. Rhea

and he was put on disability. liveing not to far from him and right across the

road from a very moldy smelling shed that I had problems with, I wondered if it

was his shed that made him sick.

but I lived there about a year and very seldom seen him go to that shed or spend

considerable time there.

I realized that the mold problem with that shed was probably in part because it

wasn't mantained,possable lack of use.

It became clear to me that MCS could be caused by chemicals/toxins and it's not

just mold and it's byproducts that cause this.

and now that I have a good understanding of how the mucus system works and how

the mucosa lineings can get damaged, I have a better understanding of why dose

is so important.

[Guest guest]

Sauna therapy was what helped me the most. He does IV therapy, nutritional

support, and sauna to detox, and other things as well depending on your

condition. It helped a great deal but the secret of staying well is finding a

safe home. D

>

> Hi Diane,

>

> Was Dr. Rea able to help you? What are the basics of his detox protocol?

>

> thanks, sue

>

> >I agree with you Jeannine. Dr. Rea does not really focus on one

> >contaminant or exposure. Its all about the total body burden and

> >detoxing to get the body clear of those toxins. I did his protocal for

> >over a year, and he detoxes everyone pretty much the same way regardless

> >of what the exposure was. I do believe that is why so many of us moldies

> >have MCS. Our bodies are overloaded and cannot deal with anything more...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks Diane, first he has got to get well, and then we can worry about

a long term safe home, the place we are staying now is definitely safer

than at home, due to mold issues at home.... did you ever do

cholestyramine and did that help you? thanks, sue v.

>Sauna therapy was what helped me the most. He does IV therapy,

>nutritional support, and sauna to detox, and other things as well

>depending on your condition. It helped a great deal but the secret of

>staying well is finding a safe home. D

>

>

>>

>> Hi Diane,

>>

>> Was Dr. Rea able to help you? What are the basics of his detox protocol?

>>

[Guest guest]

mold took away my whole life I used to be a single mother running around

and had a good job with the government. Now I am home bound with

aircleaners and where a mask into a lot of buildings have gained 100 mpounds

from

steroids and being sedimentary. Not what I planned after my daughter graduated

and got married,this was supposed to be my time.

Janet

In a message dated 9/15/2010 6:31:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

tug_slug@... writes:

God when I first wrote this post i had no idea that mold was going to take

away everything away that means anything to me. i had no idea how serious

my situation was and how it would change my life forever. things since than

have gone from bad to worst and it doesnt look like their going to improve

anytime soon.

>

> I recently bought a condo that had unbeknownest to me had mold (yes I

had the property inspected) To make a long story short I think I may have

cross contaminated my sisters house which is where Im currently living.

>

> I only brought over a few clothes and I had washed them but there were

times when I had to go to the townhouse and spend the night because some one

had tried to break in so I had to make it look I was there

>

> The townhouse had been remeditated for mold but after a second air test

it tested for high yeast count thats when I moved.

[Guest guest]

God when I first wrote this post i had no idea that mold was going to take away

everything away that means anything to me. i had no idea how serious my

situation was and how it would change my life forever. things since than have

gone from bad to worst and it doesnt look like their going to improve anytime

soon.

>

> I recently bought a condo that had unbeknownest to me had mold (yes I had the

property inspected) To make a long story short I think I may have cross

contaminated my sisters house which is where Im currently living.

>

> I only brought over a few clothes and I had washed them but there were times

when I had to go to the townhouse and spend the night because some one had tried

to break in so I had to make it look I was there

>

> The townhouse had been remeditated for mold but after a second air test it

tested for high yeast count thats when I moved.