Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I also tested negative for molds in the scratch test, how did you react to the histamine control? I had a really hard time with that, hard time breathing and they had to give me oxygen. From all of the EI doctors that I have seen, they say the scratch test is completely useless as ours is not an allergy more an immune mediated response and we are sick from the mycotoxins. Don't believe the allergist when he tells you it won't kill you, mycotoxins very nearly killed me last year and there are a lot of people on this group that it has affected the same way. Good Luck. . On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Michal <michalvictoria@...>wrote: > > > Today I saw an allergist. My MD said he wouldn't prescribe antifungals > unless I tested postive for mold, but I was curious too, so I went. > I tested negative for the airborne panel, FOR CANDIDA , and for the 17 > foods I picked out that I react to!!! > Thing is, I have the genotype that says I'm a " universal reactor " . I sure > feel that way. Certainly from .mold! > The allergist was good-he explained this only means that I won't have a > reaction that will kill me, not that I'm not feeling what I'm feeling. > But given how I react to mold. how could I NOT be allergic? > Has anyone else in this group tested negative for mold in scratch tests? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 --- In , Michal <michalvictoria@...> wrote: > But given how I react to mold. how could I NOT be allergic? > Has anyone else in this group tested negative for mold in scratch > tests? I'm the exact opposite. I tested severely allergic to mold (After seeing the swelling, a friend at work said the allergist would probably have to amputate the arm on my follow-up appointment.) but had no allergic symptoms because citrus bioflavonoids etc. stabilized my mast cells. I did have asthma, but that turned out to be entirely neurological: mold chemicals like sesquiterpenes activate TRPA1 receptors. The asthma and head/neck/jaw/shoulder muscle tension responded to the same extent and with the same timing to N-95 masks or high-dose naltrexone, so I'm positive there was no allergic involvement. Neither conventional nor Dr. Shrader's LDA allergy shots worked at all. My best guess for naltrexone's mechanism of action is preventing endorphins from suppressing somatostatin release. (PMID: 8105398) Somatostatin inhibits TRPV1 (PMID: 15288402), and I think chances are good that it inhibits TRPA1 too. Too bad naltrexone only worked for about three weeks before my brain figured out a work-around and rendered naltrexone useless. I also managed to get my HLA tested (I can't believe that my insurance paid for it 100%, when easier to justify tests are only paid at 80%.), but the only bad combo I have is 1-5, which just gives you low MSH if you also have another bad combo. (At least that's my understanding after reading Mold Warriors.) It is consistent with my bee venom allergy (PMID: 16112029). My visual contrast sensitivity is actually better than the control group in the Mold Warriors graph, so I definitely don't have an inflammatory immune reaction to mycotoxins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I heard from a nutritionist that scratch tests are accurate about 65% of the time. You can have a false positive or negative. I also tested negative for molds in the scratch test, how did you react to the histamine control? I had a really hard time with that, hard time breathing and they had to give me oxygen. From all of the EI doctors that I have seen, they say the scratch test is completely useless as ours is not an allergy more an immune mediated response and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 The allergist I saw first did scratch tests (of which nothing came up) then tested for the same things by injecting each substance into my arm. He said these tests are 100 times more accurate than the scratch tests. I then reacted to the foods I expected to, as well as 3 molds. ita --- In , Michal <michalvictoria@...> wrote: > But given how I react to mold. how could I NOT be allergic? > Has anyone else in this group tested negative for mold in scratch tests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Same experience here. I think that testing with scratch tests are considered " old school " as the good EI clinics use the injections method and have for years. D > > > But given how I react to mold. how could I NOT be allergic? > > Has anyone else in this group tested negative for mold in scratch tests? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 If a person is not atopic, no history of allergies, then skin tests or any other tests are not necessary. I recommend that a total IgE immunoglobulin test be run. This well determine whether or not the person is atopic. We must remember that doctors are taught allergies not poisons. Some people with mold health problems may have allergies. However, the vast majority I deal with do not have allergies to molds. Their IgE immunoglobulins are in range. Injection of mold antigens into the skin can cause an inflammatory response, which is not an allergic condition. Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D. Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist www.drthrasher.org toxicologist1@... Off: 916-745-4703 Cell: 575-937-1150 L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC Trauma Specialist sandracrawley@... 916-745-4703 - Off 775-309-3994 - Cell This message and any attachments forwarded with it is to be considered privileged and confidential. The forwarding or redistribution of this message (and any attachments) without my prior written consent is strictly prohibited and may violate privacy laws. Once the intended purpose of this message has been served, please destroy the original message contents. If you have received this message in error, please reply immediately to advise the sender of the miscommunication and then delete the message and any copies you have printed. Thank you in advance for your compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 > > > But given how I react to mold. how could I NOT be allergic? > > Has anyone else in this group tested negative for mold in scratch tests? I never had any mold allergies, even though I'm extremely reactive to toxic mold. The two problems are wholly unrelated. If you feel it necessary to test for whether toxic mold is a problem for you (rather than just giving a " trial separation " from it), Dr. Shoemaker's tests outlined in " Mold Warriors " are the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 You don't need to have mold allergies to have a toxic illness to mold! Toxicity is totally different than allergies. I'll try to find an article I have about it. The allergist I saw first did scratch tests (of which nothing came up) then tested for the same things by injecting each substance into my arm. He said these tests are 100 times more accurate than the scratch tests. I then reacted to the foods I expected to, as well as 3 molds. ita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 you can have either/or or both allergic hypersensitivity and non-allergic hypersensitivity. > > > You don't need to have mold allergies to have a toxic illness to mold! > Toxicity is totally different than allergies. I'll try to find an article I > have about it. > >>>>>>>>>>>. > The allergist I saw first did scratch tests (of which nothing came up) > then tested for the same things by injecting each substance into my arm. He > said these tests are 100 times more accurate than the scratch tests. > > I then reacted to the foods I expected to, as well as 3 molds. > > ita > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 a few other possabilites, I've read that you can have a allergy and not produce IgE. I read that antigens can be coated with IgE but if for some reason the IgE receptors aren't doing their job,(like maybe if you did experience myelin sleath damage of the nerves), you may not experience the typical allergy symptoms, I have a felling that histamine release might still happen and could lead to histamine intolerance,maybe. but it seems IgE could still be measured in this case. you also can have a allergy without being atopic, but it takes a high dose exposure for that to accure. the allergy most likely would be to mold protiens, this is only one part of mold exposure with water damaged building exposure, seperate from toxic effects aquired by toxins in a WDB, but they do accure together and can be had together. some one who is atopic usually has allergy problems from birth, they may wax and wane, advoidance might play a role , it takes much less exposure for someone atopic. to me it seems they would reconize a WDB exposure much quicker and get out much faster just because of the allergic responce.? advoidance obviously plays a role with either. if I understand right tottall IgE measurement doesn't tell you what protiens you are reactings to, just basicly shows IgE level. could be a lot of different protiens envolved in a WDB exposure, just like there could be proteins involved in dirty serum that you might react to. specific IgE deturmines what those proteins are from. > > > > > > You don't need to have mold allergies to have a toxic illness to mold! > > Toxicity is totally different than allergies. I'll try to find an article I > > have about it. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>. > > The allergist I saw first did scratch tests (of which nothing came up) > > then tested for the same things by injecting each substance into my arm. He > > said these tests are 100 times more accurate than the scratch tests. > > > > I then reacted to the foods I expected to, as well as 3 molds. > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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