Re: Re: CDC to update website regarding mold induced illnesses.

[Guest guest]

Jack,

Yes. That makes much sense. Over the past several years I have become

skeptical of our government agencies over this issue. But, I am cautiously

optimistic with several changes I have seen.

Jalbert, who heads the CIAQ is a very nice man. Thus far, he has

put together about 14 agencies for a mold working group with the goal that

all agencies send out consistent messaging as was stipulated by the GAO

Report that Senator Kennedy requested..

I see it as a real positive that Frumkin, who heads ATSDR is sending

a message to School Mold Help stating that the CDC has updated their

website to link to the WHO Report and that they are specifically looking into

if

they agree with WHO that mold is a major cause of morbidity. Two years ago

that NEVER would have happened.

If they don't agree, then they will need to explain why their findings

differ from WHO's. Hard to do when WHO has the data to back up their info.

What I also find encouraging is that Birnmaum who heads NIEHS and

Dori Germolec - who has been funded under NIEHS to study the effects of

mycotoxins in damp buildings - have taken an interest in the CIAQ.

Dr. Birnbaum has written in EHP of the new age of toxicology - where

ACOEM's bogus dose theory does not determine the lack of human illness. There is

much more involved in the basic tenets of toxicology, particularly with

relation to water damaged buildings...as you accurately state.

The Dept of Labor has awarded disability for chronic inflammation from the

toxins et al in an air traffic controller. We have seen a few recent state

disability wins by the mold injured (like our a).

So...I am cautiously optomistic that we have turned a corner with regard to

changing health policy to more accurately reflect current accepted

science. This means that medical students will soon be taught these illnesses

are plausible to be caused from the situation.

So...we have one last frontier to conquer to complete the change for the

good of the public to shut down the deceit of ACOEM and the US Chamber.

That would be the courts. I feel confident that this soon will too be

changing.

In other words guys, every single person on this chat group (except you

defense lurkers, DS) should be patting themselves on the back. By so many of

us being so vocal of what we have endured, together, we have made a

difference of changing public perception and thereby help to cause government to

follow course. I am cautiously optomistic we are almost home!

Sharon K

In a message dated 11/6/2009 8:06:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

Sharon: You know me better than this.

[Guest guest]

Sharon and Jack,

I strongly second Sharon's comments on seeing improvements in the

government. I'd also include non-profits and (some) medical

associations.

The non-profit National Center for Healthy Housing (NCHH) is

jointly funded by HUD, CDC and EPA. Their Healthy Home

Practitioner program is centered first on people, then buildings,

followed by seven principles of how they interact. AAAAI and their

sister organization ACAAI, conservative and as schizoid as they

are at times, have a project specifically developing practice

parameters for home assessments.

IAQA is working with NCHH and ACAAI to develop training programs

so physicians and other health care providers can receive

consistent and reliable home assessments.

Lots of other work to be done and no guarantees of success. But at

least there is coordinated activity and it is in the right

direction.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Jack,

Yes. That makes much sense. Over the past several years I have

become

skeptical of our government agencies over this issue. But, I am

cautiously

optimistic with several changes I have seen.

Jalbert, who heads the CIAQ is a very nice man. Thus far,

he has

put together about 14 agencies for a mold working group with the

goal that

all agencies send out consistent messaging as was stipulated by

the GAO

Report that Senator Kennedy requested..

I see it as a real positive that Frumkin, who heads ATSDR

is sending

a message to School Mold Help stating that the CDC has updated

their

website to link to the WHO Report and that they are specifically

looking into if they agree with WHO that mold is a major cause of

morbidity. Two years ago that NEVER would have happened.

If they don't agree, then they will need to explain why their

findings

differ from WHO's. Hard to do when WHO has the data to back up

their info.

What I also find encouraging is that Birnmaum who heads

NIEHS and

Dori Germolec - who has been funded under NIEHS to study the

effects of

mycotoxins in damp buildings - have taken an interest in the

CIAQ.

Dr. Birnbaum has written in EHP of the new age of toxicology -

where

ACOEM's bogus dose theory does not determine the lack of human

illness. There is much more involved in the basic tenets of

toxicology, particularly with relation to water damaged

buildings...as you accurately state.

The Dept of Labor has awarded disability for chronic inflammation

from the

toxins et al in an air traffic controller. We have seen a few

recent state

disability wins by the mold injured (like our a).

So...I am cautiously optomistic that we have turned a corner with

regard to

changing health policy to more accurately reflect current

accepted

science. This means that medical students will soon be taught

these illnesses

are plausible to be caused from the situation.

So...we have one last frontier to conquer to complete the change

for the

good of the public to shut down the deceit of ACOEM and the US

Chamber.

That would be the courts. I feel confident that this soon will too

be

changing.

In other words guys, every single person on this chat group

(except you

defense lurkers, DS) should be patting themselves on the back. By

so many of us being so vocal of what we have endured, together, we

have made a

difference of changing public perception and thereby help to cause

government to follow course. I am cautiously optomistic we are

almost home!

Sharon K

[Guest guest]

Jack,

Again wise words!!!

In a message dated 11/8/2009 7:51:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

toxicologist1@... writes:

If you truly want a positive change, then start a campaign that prevents

the industries from contributing to the election coffers. Once this is

accomplished, perhaps a full recognition of the health problems caused by water

intrusion as well as the pollution of the planet will take place. I am

sorry, but I have been around too long to have such optimisim, even

caustiously.