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Thanks to those who gave me good reviews on shoemaker. One more question I have

is....

I am also considering Dr. Lieberman in ton SC? Has anyone seen him? He is

a little less expensive than shoemaker and closer to me. He also uses a

different approach than shoemaker.

Our money is limited due to the move and having to replace so many of our items

and dry cleaning all of our clothes. So I need to find the best care for the

money. shoemaker only takes blue cross blue shield and I have assurrant health

care.

and Lieberman doesn't take any type of insurance. How are people suppose to

medical care when the doctors that specialize in this do not take insurance?

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I'm putting in my 2 cents on this one.

no.1 get out of the conaminated environment.

no. 2 advoidence, advoidence,advoidence.

no. 3 deep cleasing of sinus, and if you are haveing stomach and bowel problems,

get some food intolerance and allergy testing done.

only eat fresh foods, no canned,no corn, no cerals,grains.

mainly green veggies and white meat. wait several months and after you gain some

type of control over stomach problems, introduce something back in and see if it

affects you, possably even a day later. if it does, forget about eating it for a

long time.

no. 4 dont asume that you or anybody else can say that what worked for them

well work for you. no ecposure is the smie,

no one is damaged to the same levels, some well recover by just getting out with

a little time, some well not recover no matter what they try.

and this is true and even our own need to realize that even though they were

miserable and think they were the worst, theres always those that were damage in

ways that aren't going to heal or go away.

by toutting that one has the cure all, it's cutting out the ines that are

severly damaged. some have varely escaped death and may end up dieing from it

anyway. I really hate it when prople clain they have all the answers based on

their exposure and their recovery.

it just doesn't work that way.

I am against movies being made based on one persons experience becaouse that

pits us all in that bracket and thats just not true.

the end............

>

> There are a lot of people on this board who know what has worked for them

> to get better. Much of it does not involve pharmaceuticals. I think it

> would be a good idea for people to share what has worked for them and then

> put this info in an organized manner. So that others can see what people have

> done.

>

> It wouldn't be giving medical advice or telling another what THEY should do

> to get better. It would simply be a sharing of what others know.

> Infra-red saunas, oxygen, vinager, garlic, enzymes, vegetable juices with

> antifungal properties, etc. Collectively, we know a lot!

>

>

> In a message dated 8/1/2009 11:32:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> dragonflymcs@... writes:

>

>

> Some just cannot get treatment from EI's Drs. Even if you have

> insurance there is no guarantee they will pay for them, or that it is

covered.

>

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

>

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Jeanine, well said. Every one of us is unique and our experiences with water

damage and mold are unique. The mixture of molds, toxins, bacteria, etc. are

unique to each situation. There are many good options for treatment--some have

had success with certain treatments or certain doctors. Others have had success

with supplements, changes in diet, medication, oxygen therapy, alternative

medicine, etc. It's great that we have the Sickbuildings Group so we can share

our experiences and ideas. Some day, when the insurance industry and other

stakeholders stop denying the truth about the health effects of toxic mold, it

will be much easier to get the proper treatment.

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Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 9:00:49 AM

Subject: [] Re: shoemaker or Lieberman

I'm putting in my 2 cents on this one.

no.1 get out of the conaminated environment.

no. 2 advoidence, advoidence,advoiden ce.

no. 3 deep cleasing of sinus, and if you are haveing stomach and bowel problems,

get some food intolerance and allergy testing done.

only eat fresh foods, no canned,no corn, no cerals,grains.

mainly green veggies and white meat. wait several months and after you gain some

type of control over stomach problems, introduce something back in and see if it

affects you, possably even a day later. if it does, forget about eating it for a

long time.

no.

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