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Great News!!!!! I was able to start running again a few months ago...what a

magnificent feeling it is!!! Sure, I can't run quite like I used to and I

feel it afterwards...but it is like kicking this disease in the butt!! Excuse

my french....but it is like saying " you haven't beaten me!!! " .....

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What an accomplishment. I'll bet it felt good.

Best of health and congratulations. :>))

Bev

> Dear Group,

>

> For the first time in over a year and a half I was able to RUN today!!!!

I

> never thought something so simple would elate my husband and I so much. I

> never thought it would be possible again.

>

>

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I JUST HOPE ALL THOSE LURKERS OUT THERE CONTEMPLATING ARE READING THESE FROM YOU

AND LESLIE. GREAT, GREAT NEWS!

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> From: docmilligan@...

>

> Great News!!!!! I was able to start running again a few months ago...what a

> magnificent feeling it is!!! Sure, I can't run quite like I used to and I

> feel it afterwards...but it is like kicking this disease in the butt!! Excuse

> my french....but it is like saying " you haven't beaten me!!! " .....

>

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> Blessings and Health

> Tony (Diagnosed Sero-Neg. RA Apr 99; on AP since 5 Oct 99)

>

> Meds (DR Prescribed): Methotrexate 10MG per week; Folic Acid 2MG per day;

> Prednisone 10 mg daily; Sulfasalazine 4G daily; Cloriquine Phos. 250 mg

> daily; Minocycline 100 mg 2X daily; Prilosec 20-40mg daily

>

> Alternative Meds/Herbs: Flax Seed Oil (Omega 3, 6, 9) 6 g daily; MSM 2 g

> daily; Pantothenic Acid (B5) 2 g daily; Niacin (B6) 1 g Daily;

> Echinacea/Goldenseal 420 mg daily; Milk Thistle 350 mg daily; Ginseng 840 mg

> daily; Chitosan 2 g Daily; Lactobacillis Acidopholis 2 capsules daily

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Wow !!! That is really something. And when you consider how bad you

got there for awhile it's like a miracle!!! You go girl..........run, run,

run!!!! (Slowly at first of course! <big grin>)

HUGS:-)))

Carol

>For the first time in over a year and a half I was able to RUN today!!!!

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  • 9 years later...

Hi Gretchen,

Thanks for asking how my running was going.

It has been very hard work. I initially got the medical sign off to build to

running again in May. However, the assessment on the needed orthotics was based

on my walking gait. That meant that I had one side corrected with a Push AFO,

but the other side not corrected. Unfortunately, as I have run, it has become

apparent that I needed both sides in AFOs as my overpronation was quite severe

with my foot striking the ground. I received my second Push AFO on 21

September.

I have not run since I did a 6k on September 13th - that was my 4th race of a 5k

distance in 6 weeks. It was a bit much. My right foot felt the same as my left

foot had when I sought medical advice (which resulted in my CMT diagnosis) -

sore, tight and a bit achy due to the overpronation and foot strike. It has

improved with rest. I am thinking of restarting this weekend, with both feet

splinted and ready to go. But I need to see how things feel. I don't want to

do any lasting damage.

My start to running was hard. I basically got a couch to 5k plan and then

modified it according to what I could do, and usually only two times a week. I

have run on the perimeter of the park by my house - so on the ground. It is a

1.3km perimeter. The most I have run is 3 times around, the Hyde Park 5k and

Paris 6k were my first runs at the full 5k distance.

My plan had me start at 30 seconds jog, 1 minute walk, for a max of 15 minutes

total time, in May. Running definitely woke up my muscles! I have not felt

that sore after a workout in a long time! By September I was doing 8 minutes

jog, 1 minute walk, at the Hyde Park 5k. I have also done in my local park 15

minutes jog, 1 minute walk, 10 minute jog. I can't wait to start again - I am

slow as mud, but I have fun doing it.

My doctors told me that probably the 10k distance would be the max I should aim

for, given CMT, some of the muscle atrophy in my ankles, and the fact that I

have very bad knees anyway. I have found a race for January at the 10k level,

so until then look forward to working back up to the fitness I had.

I had a knee issue in June so did some pool running, which I totally recommend.

It can be in a shallow pool, so reducing impact, or with a waist float in the

deep end of the pool so no impact and just working on fitness.

I write on Mondays on my blog on my training updates. You can find it at:

www.myfitnessyear.com

Glad to hear you are adding mountain biking for the autumn. I wish we had

proper autumnal weather - instead we get rain!

All the best,

Donna from London

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I sucked royally at running and was the brunt of jokes by other kids at school. In 9th grade, I joined the track team. I still came in last during meets, but I was able to beat the non-track kids in gym class. I had a much more positive attitude towards gym. Best decision I ever made.

On 1/22/11 4:41 PM, " cmt263 " <gina9431@...> wrote:

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, " socialized differently than other kids his age " and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, " yeah, maybe " . Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

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Congratulations to your son for making the second basket!! My son has been in OT

for a couple years and they work on fine motor and sensory issues as well, but

not on his unusual gait or on self-help type skills (though I wish they would).

I just read a great article on low muscle tone in kids with Aspergers on the " My

Aspergers Child " website - if I knew how to do a link, I would link you to it.

Hopefully you can find it and I hope you find some answers.

Carolyn in Maine

>

> I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD.

Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational

therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues.

I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I

also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry

more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and

this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st

game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very

obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran

funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased

for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires

easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with

his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems

concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son,

" socialized differently than other kids his age " and also mentioned he thought

about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table

and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just

done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed

Asperger tendencies....to which he said, " yeah, maybe " . Never suggested I do

anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

>

> He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to

go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would

rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure

many can relate.

>

> What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to

chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting

a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily

about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT.

Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work

full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at

home would be great!

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

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Your son may qualify for Adapted Phys Ed at school. My son had Adapted PE all

the way thru middle school. My son was not the most coordinated kid and would

take a long time to learn basic phys ed skills such as dribbling a ball or

skipping or improving his running gait. The Adapted PE teacher works with your

child 1-1 or in small group breaking down and teaching basic gross motor phys ed

skills. Here's a site on Adapted PE.

http://www.apens.org/

Not sure if you are talking about getting Physical Therapy at school or not. A

friend of mine is a school PT. When she was working with older kids she only

handled the more extreme cases. An odd running gait would not have been part of

her case load so I doubt that your son would qualify for PT at school.

Caroline

>

> I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD.

Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational

therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues.

I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I

also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry

more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and

this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st

game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very

obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran

funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased

for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires

easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with

his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems

concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son,

" socialized differently than other kids his age " and also mentioned he thought

about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table

and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just

done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed

Asperger tendencies....to which he said, " yeah, maybe " . Never suggested I do

anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

>

> He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to

go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would

rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure

many can relate.

>

> What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to

chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting

a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily

about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT.

Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work

full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at

home would be great!

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

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My daughter has the same issues at age 10. She plays soccer and struggles to run the field, tires very easily and loses her balance often. It was recommended to us that we get a Wii Fit and work on Pilates and yoga for core strenghtening by a previous OT. Besides the inital cost it is something that can be done at home and sometimes can be seen as fun (though not always!). We also have her on the trampoline when we can.

Best of luck!

Becky

From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>Subject: ( ) Running Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to

get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial). He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a

little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!Thanks for your help!

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Some suggestions...I both have a child with Asperger's and I am an early intervention worker.....try to make your motor therapy as fun as possible. You could do obstacle courses around your house with walking on pillows, up the stairs (both build strength and coordination which helps the body compensate for low tone....if you are low tone, you are stuck with it. There is no "cure" but the body can work around it) and running around to grab items or numbers or something and play it with a "beat the parents" component with the winner picking dessert or something like that. Getting him outside is really a very common suggestion as well. Climbing over unstable or different terrain (hills, sand, grass surfaces) can really make a difference and help compensate for low tone. Trampoline jumping builds lower body strength and works

on sensory calming as well. Try finding a mini one on craigslist or freecycle if cost is a factor, then do drills with him, like how many jumps can you do in a minute and then lets try to beat your best amount.

If he would do it, gymnastic classes and/or swim classes are great for helping to build muscle to compensate for tone and if you are worried about his flapping when he runs, you can give him something to hold in his hands (1 lb weights or workout balls I have seen work well or even sometimes something as simple as "worry stones" to remind him about his hands in space).

You can give him voucher for computer/game play time....for every half hour you do "therapy" you get 1/2 hour of computer play..or whatever amount of time would work for you. Even if you only do this on weekends it's a great motivator.

Good luck!

Debbie

From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>Subject: ( ) Running Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to

get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial). He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a

little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!Thanks for your help!

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Is there any scientific study that explains why kids with AS tend to have low muscle tone or an odd gait?

On 1/23/11 6:18 PM, " Debora Bradfield " <foryourkitchen@...> wrote:

Some suggestions...I both have a child with Asperger's and I am an early intervention worker.....try to make your motor therapy as fun as possible. You could do obstacle courses around your house with walking on pillows, up the stairs (both build strength and coordination which helps the body compensate for low tone....if you are low tone, you are stuck with it. There is no " cure " but the body can work around it) and running around to grab items or numbers or something and play it with a " beat the parents " component with the winner picking dessert or something like that. Getting him outside is really a very common suggestion as well. Climbing over unstable or different terrain (hills, sand, grass surfaces) can really make a difference and help compensate for low tone.

Trampoline jumping builds lower body strength and works on sensory calming as well. Try finding a mini one on craigslist or freecycle if cost is a factor, then do drills with him, like how many jumps can you do in a minute and then lets try to beat your best amount.

If he would do it, gymnastic classes and/or swim classes are great for helping to build muscle to compensate for tone and if you are worried about his flapping when he runs, you can give him something to hold in his hands (1 lb weights or workout balls I have seen work well or even sometimes something as simple as " worry stones " to remind him about his hands in space).

You can give him voucher for computer/game play time....for every half hour you do " therapy " you get 1/2 hour of computer play..or whatever amount of time would work for you. Even if you only do this on weekends it's a great motivator.

Good luck!

Debbie

From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>

Subject: ( ) Running

Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, " socialized differently than other kids his age " and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, " yeah, maybe " . Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

--

“My daddy shoots people.” --Ralph Wiggum, The Simpsons

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I am very interested in 's question my son has the same problem. From: Esris

<julie1013@...> Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 7:30:39 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Running

Is there any scientific study that explains why kids with AS tend to have low muscle tone or an odd gait?

On 1/23/11 6:18 PM, "Debora Bradfield" <foryourkitchen@...> wrote:

Some suggestions...I both have a child with Asperger's and I am an early intervention worker.....try to make your motor therapy as fun as possible. You could do obstacle courses around your house with walking on pillows, up the stairs (both build strength and coordination which helps the body compensate for low tone....if you are low tone, you are stuck with it. There is no "cure" but the body can work around it) and running around to grab items or numbers or something and play it with a "beat the parents" component with the winner picking dessert or something like that. Getting him outside is really a very common suggestion as well. Climbing over unstable or different terrain (hills, sand, grass surfaces) can really make a difference and help compensate for low tone.

Trampoline jumping builds lower body strength and works on sensory calming as well. Try finding a mini one on craigslist or freecycle if cost is a factor, then do drills with him, like how many jumps can you do in a minute and then lets try to beat your best amount.

If he would do it, gymnastic classes and/or swim classes are great for helping to build muscle to compensate for tone and if you are worried about his flapping when he runs, you can give him something to hold in his hands (1 lb weights or workout balls I have seen work well or even sometimes something as simple as "worry stones" to remind him about his hands in space).

You can give him voucher for computer/game play time....for every half hour you do "therapy" you get 1/2 hour of computer play..or whatever amount of time would work for you. Even if you only do this on weekends it's a great motivator.

Good luck!

Debbie

From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>

Subject: ( ) Running

Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just

tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

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I am too. Maddie has a run that looks like a giant stomping running motion. She stops and gets so frustrated.

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Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just

tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

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Can our kids participate in Special Olympics, or don't they qualify? I was just thinking that they could run any way they liked there and not get teased or anything.

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Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just

tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

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I am very curious as well. My DS is lanky and awkward - not very coordinated or strong at all. Other kids make fun of him for his uncoordinated gait while running :(JackieFrom: chris Dunn <christineshello@...> Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 9:02:13 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Running

I am very interested in 's question my son has the same problem. From: Esris

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Is there any scientific study that explains why kids with AS tend to have low muscle tone or an odd gait?

On 1/23/11 6:18 PM, "Debora Bradfield" <foryourkitchen@...> wrote:

Some suggestions...I both have a child with Asperger's and I am an early intervention worker.....try to make your motor therapy as fun as possible. You could do obstacle courses around your house with walking on pillows, up the stairs (both build strength and coordination which helps the body compensate for low tone....if you are low tone, you are stuck with it. There is no "cure" but the body can work around it) and running around to grab items or numbers or something and play it with a "beat the parents" component with the winner picking dessert or something like that. Getting him outside is really a very common suggestion as well. Climbing over unstable or different terrain (hills, sand, grass surfaces) can really make a difference and help compensate for low tone.

Trampoline jumping builds lower body strength and works on sensory calming as well. Try finding a mini one on craigslist or freecycle if cost is a factor, then do drills with him, like how many jumps can you do in a minute and then lets try to beat your best amount.

If he would do it, gymnastic classes and/or swim classes are great for helping to build muscle to compensate for tone and if you are worried about his flapping when he runs, you can give him something to hold in his hands (1 lb weights or workout balls I have seen work well or even sometimes something as simple as "worry stones" to remind him about his hands in space).

You can give him voucher for computer/game play time....for every half hour you do "therapy" you get 1/2 hour of computer play..or whatever amount of time would work for you. Even if you only do this on weekends it's a great motivator.

Good luck!

Debbie

From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>

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Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just

tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

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As far as I know they do. Another mother approached me about it, but we moved before she could sign up.

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Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just

tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

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Typically, children with AS are uncoordinated. Not always low tone. My son's tone is fine, but his coordination is off. "Weird" run, difficulty with bike riding and sports.

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From: Jackie Mulroy <jackiemulroy@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Running Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:49 PM

I am very curious as well. My DS is lanky and awkward - not very coordinated or strong at all. Other kids make fun of him for his uncoordinated gait while running :(

Jackie

From: chris Dunn <christineshello@...> Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 9:02:13 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Running

I am very interested in 's question my son has the same problem.

From: Esris <julie1013@...> Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 7:30:39 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Running

Is there any scientific study that explains why kids with AS tend to have low muscle tone or an odd gait?On 1/23/11 6:18 PM, "Debora Bradfield" <foryourkitchen@...> wrote:

Some suggestions...I both have a child with Asperger's and I am an early intervention worker.....try to make your motor therapy as fun as possible. You could do obstacle courses around your house with walking on pillows, up the stairs (both build strength and coordination which helps the body compensate for low tone....if you are low tone, you are stuck with it. There is no "cure" but the body can work around it) and running around to grab items or numbers or something and play it with a "beat the parents" component with the winner picking dessert or something like that. Getting him outside is really a very common suggestion as well. Climbing over unstable or different terrain (hills, sand, grass surfaces) can really make a difference and help compensate for low tone. Trampoline

jumping builds lower body strength and works on sensory calming as well. Try finding a mini one on craigslist or freecycle if cost is a factor, then do drills with him, like how many jumps can you do in a minute and then lets try to beat your best amount.If he would do it, gymnastic classes and/or swim classes are great for helping to build muscle to compensate for tone and if you are worried about his flapping when he runs, you can give him something to hold in his hands (1 lb weights or workout balls I have seen work well or even sometimes something as simple as "worry stones" to remind him about his hands in space).You can give him voucher for computer/game play time....for every half hour you do "therapy" you get 1/2 hour of computer play..or whatever amount of time would work for you. Even if you only do this on weekends it's a great motivator.Good luck!Debbie

From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>Subject: ( ) Running Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him

out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial). He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet

once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!Thanks for your help! -- “My

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Oddly enough, my DS can ride his bike quite well. I am thinking it's because of his fascination with things that spin (wheels on bikes, cars, airplane propellers - we even call him 'Fan Man' because of his intense interest in fans and spinning things!)J~From: Debora Bradfield <foryourkitchen@...> Sent:

Wed, January 26, 2011 5:11:11 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Running

Typically, children with AS are uncoordinated. Not always low tone. My son's tone is fine, but his coordination is off. "Weird" run, difficulty with bike riding and sports.

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From: Jackie Mulroy <jackiemulroy@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Running Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:49 PM

I am very curious as well. My DS is lanky and awkward - not very coordinated or strong at all. Other kids make fun of him for his uncoordinated gait while running :(

Jackie

From: chris Dunn <christineshello@...> Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 9:02:13 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Running

I am very interested in 's question my son has the same problem.

From: Esris <julie1013@...> Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 7:30:39 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Running

Is there any scientific study that explains why kids with AS tend to have low muscle tone or an odd gait?On 1/23/11 6:18 PM, "Debora Bradfield" <foryourkitchen@...> wrote:

Some suggestions...I both have a child with Asperger's and I am an early intervention worker.....try to make your motor therapy as fun as possible. You could do obstacle courses around your house with walking on pillows, up the stairs (both build strength and coordination which helps the body compensate for low tone....if you are low tone, you are stuck with it. There is no "cure" but the body can work around it) and running around to grab items or numbers or something and play it with a "beat the parents" component with the winner picking dessert or something like that. Getting him outside is really a very common suggestion as well. Climbing over unstable or different terrain (hills, sand, grass surfaces) can really make a difference and help compensate for low tone. Trampoline

jumping builds lower body strength and works on sensory calming as well. Try finding a mini one on craigslist or freecycle if cost is a factor, then do drills with him, like how many jumps can you do in a minute and then lets try to beat your best amount.If he would do it, gymnastic classes and/or swim classes are great for helping to build muscle to compensate for tone and if you are worried about his flapping when he runs, you can give him something to hold in his hands (1 lb weights or workout balls I have seen work well or even sometimes something as simple as "worry stones" to remind him about his hands in space).You can give him voucher for computer/game play time....for every half hour you do "therapy" you get 1/2 hour of computer play..or whatever amount of time would work for you. Even if you only do this on weekends it's a great motivator.Good luck!Debbie

From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>Subject: ( ) Running Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see

him

out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial). He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet

once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!Thanks for your help! -- “My

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hi- my 6 yr old just learned to ride his bike last summer. Still needs the

training wheels but he is doing great. We also got him a scooter that is a

little extra wide and he does well with that too. I try to do lots of

trampoline time and what we call " ball pushes " everyday. (ball pushes- child

lays on his back with feet/legs in air at 90 degree angle. My son likes to lay

in the ball pit/crash pad with some pillows. I then throw the big exercise ball

at his feet and he pushes it back to me with both feet- sort of volleyball style

but with his feet. Gives him lots of that sensory deep pressure input he craves

and calms him. Also good strength and coordination exercise)

He is also obsesses with things that spin- especially fans and wheels! lol

I do remember reading about a study on why AS kids have low muscle tone and

coordination issues- gotta try to find it again!

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> >>

> >>>From: cmt263 <gina9431@...>

> >>>Subject: ( ) Running

> >>>

> >>>Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

> >>>

> >>> I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with

ASD.

> >>>Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational

> >>>therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory

issues. I

> >>>always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I

also

> >>>wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry

more

> >>>than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and

this

> >>>is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st

game

> >>>and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very

> >>>obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran

> >>>funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be

teased

> >>>for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires

> >>>easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with

his

> >>>pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems

> >>>concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son,

> >>> " socialized differently than other kids his age " and also mentioned he

thought

> >>>about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the

table

> >>>and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have

just

> >>>done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed

> >>>Asperger tendencies....to which he said, " yeah, maybe " . Never suggested I

do

> >>>anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him

to go

> >>>out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would

rather

> >>>watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many

can

> >>>relate.

> >>>

> >>>What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to

> >>>chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is

getting

> >>>a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not

necessarily

> >>>about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was

in OT.

> >>>Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I

work

> >>>full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do

at

> >>>home would be great!

> >>>

> >>>Thanks for your help!

> >>>

> >>>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I think part of the problem has to do with motor planning. It's not that they can't learn, but learning where to move and how and what is the harder part. Look at how and what we move when run. It's actually complicated if you look at each piece of how it works and yet, we all usually integrate the process and do it automatically. Some kids can master it eventually, especially with practice. A teacher once asked me if my older ds had CP because of the way he walked/ran when he was a little guy. He doesn't move his arms, as if he couldn't figure out how they fit in to the equation of running. If I knew then what I know now, I would have broken the skill down into chunks and taught him how his arms relate to running. As it was, we had no clue and that was the least of the problems at the time. And later on, he got a "D" in PE in high school because he "refused" to run. He told the teacher, "I don't run." and she took that to mean he was being a smart ass instead of it being the truth. lol. Nobody just "doesn't" run, you know! lol.

I often think those stair steppers with the arms that move would help. It would make them move each arm in tandem with their feet. ???

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Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see

him

out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet

once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

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Interesting topic. I know my son never put out his hands to stop him when falling. He just would plain land on his face, lost the instinct and through therapy had to teach him how to bring his hands out. I think it made him hate running because it would lead to pain usually on his nose. It got to the point the therapist got him a helmet. So many of his natural reflexes were delayed or non inexistent.

In a message dated 1/29/2011 10:01:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, MadIdeas@... writes:

I think part of the problem has to do with motor planning. It's not that they can't learn, but learning where to move and how and what is the harder part. Look at how and what we move when run. It's actually complicated if you look at each piece of how it works and yet, we all usually integrate the process and do it automatically. Some kids can master it eventually, especially with practice. A teacher once asked me if my older ds had CP because of the way he walked/ran when he was a little guy. He doesn't move his arms, as if he couldn't figure out how they fit in to the equation of running. If I knew then what I know now, I would have broken the skill down into chunks and taught him how his arms relate to running. As it was, we had no clue and that was the least of the problems at the time. And later on, he got a "D" in PE in high school because he "refused" to run. He told the teacher, "I don't run." and she took that to mean he was being a smart ass instead of it being the truth. lol. Nobody just "doesn't" run, you know! lol. I often think those stair steppers with the arms that move would help. It would make them move each arm in tandem with their feet. ???

Roxanna“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) Running Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see him out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial). He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!Thanks for your help! -- “My daddy shoots people.†--Ralph Wiggum, The Simpsons

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Roxanna!That makes a lot of sense! He needs to LEARN how to move! Maybe I'll take him to the gym with me for a bit. He'd love the one-on-one time anyhow! :-)JackieFrom: Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 10:00:55 AMSubject:

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I think part of the problem has to do with motor planning. It's not that they can't learn, but learning where to move and how and what is the harder part. Look at how and what we move when run. It's actually complicated if you look at each piece of how it works and yet, we all usually integrate the process and do it automatically. Some kids can master it eventually, especially with practice. A teacher once asked me if my older ds had CP because of the way he walked/ran when he was a little guy. He doesn't move his arms, as if he couldn't figure out how they fit in to the equation of running. If I knew then what I know now, I would have broken the skill down into chunks and taught him how his arms relate to running. As it was, we had no clue

and that was the least of the problems at the time. And later on, he got a "D" in PE in high school because he "refused" to run. He told the teacher, "I don't run." and she took that to mean he was being a smart ass instead of it being the truth. lol. Nobody just "doesn't" run, you know! lol.

I often think those stair steppers with the arms that move would help. It would make them move each arm in tandem with their feet. ???

Roxanna

“Our lives begin to end the day we

become silent about things that matter.†- Luther King, Jr.

( ) Running

Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:41 PM

I know a strange gait and low muscle tone are common for children with ASD. Just wondering how many others experience this. My son was in occupational therapy for about a year. They worked on fine motor skills and sensory issues. I always thought he needed more help on large motor rather than fine motor. I also wonder if physical therapy wouldn't be helpful. Now he is 9 and I worry more than ever when watching him with his peers. He is in Upward this year and this is his first sport he where he actually plays a game (today was their 1st game and he made the 2nd basket of the game!!!!!!!!!). It suddenly becomes very obvious when you see

him

out there among his peers. He has always ran funny....kind of scoots along and lets his arms flap. I worry he will be teased for this eventually. Also, he walks rather than runs many times and tires easily. Is this because he has low muscle tone? I have brought this up with his pedi before, but he just tells me to get him outside. His pedi never seems concerned about anything. When my son was 4, he mentioned that my son, "socialized differently than other kids his age" and also mentioned he thought about things more than a 4 year old would (he asked him to jump off the table and my son stopped and said he couldn't....he said other kids would have just done it). At this point I mentioned his preschool teacher said he showed Asperger tendencies....to which he said, "yeah, maybe". Never suggested I do anything (and at this point I was still in denial).

He has never been the most physical child. I have always had to force him to go out and play, yet

once he is out there, he could play all day! He would rather watch tv, play on the computer, or play a video game......as I'm sure many can relate.

What things can I do with him to help?? When he was smaller (3-4) I used to chase him around the house in the winter to burn off energy....but he is getting a little big for that. Also, I understand low muscle tone is not necessarily about building muscle. I wish I would have pushed this harder when he was in OT. Back then I was working part time and it was easy to take him......now I work full time and it is so hard to do any kind of therapy!!!! Anything I can do at home would be great!

Thanks for your help!

--

“My

daddy shoots people.†--Ralph Wiggum, The Simpsons

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