Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 no thoughts on this? FUSARIUM, ZEARALENONE MYCOTOXIN,SIMULAR TO NATURALLY OCCURING ESTROGENS. http://zearalenone.imess.net/ > > ENVIRONMENTAL ESTROGENS INDUCE MAST CELL DEGRANULATION AND ENHANCE IGE MEDIATED RELEASE OF ALLERGIC MEDIATORS > http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2006/9378/9378.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 fusarium exposure from indoor environments may be rare but it does happen. hard to say, maybe other molds or chemicals that could be possably found in these water damaged building could also cause estrogen effects. I think there might be some answers here as to why some might show IgE mediated effects and some dont. maybe it possable that it depends on just exactly what we were exposed to. the mast cell effects and knowing they play in with the mucosa linings and the damage that can happen to the mucosa linings which can be severe and the loss of protection when the mucosa linings are damaged, I believe can play a hudge roll here in differences relateing to exposures organ damage and recovery. I had planed on trying to put together something on this because I fell like I'm sometimes out in left field here, and I fell somethings are overlooked because it's just not what most are dealing with. but I'm finding that I cant have more than one project going at a time because it's just to distracting for me, so I may just post the just of it and let it go from there. > > > > ENVIRONMENTAL ESTROGENS INDUCE MAST CELL DEGRANULATION AND ENHANCE IGE MEDIATED RELEASE OF ALLERGIC MEDIATORS > > http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2006/9378/9378.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 hers some other info I had in some notes that might be of interest. migrane, mast cells,and estrogen http://web.mit.edu/gelliott/Public//lauren7.pdf mast cells can secrete vascular permeability factor/vascular endothelial cell groth factor and exhibit enhanced release after immunoglobulin e-dependent upregulation of Fc receptor 1 expression (cited) http://jem.rupress.org/cgi/content/abstract/188/6/1135 ESTROGEN TREAMENT IN HLA-B27 TRANSGENIC RAT MODEL OF IMFLAMATORY BOWEL DISEASE (CITED) http://ajpgi.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/286/1/G118 environmental estrogens http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2009/0901259/0901259.pdf environmental estrogens affect breast development in males http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/environmental-estrogens-af\ fect-breast-development-in-male-rats/ mast cell degranulation breaks peripheral tolerance http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/19681828 airway smooth muscle cells enhance C3a-induced mast cell degranulation following cell-cell contact (cited) http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/19/7/798?ck=nck environmental estrogens http://www.som.tulane.edu/cbr/ecme/eehome/ mastocytosis (cited) http://jmd.amjpathol.org/cgi/content/full/8/4/412 ENHANCE IGE MEDIATED RELEASE OF ALLERGIC MEDIATORS > > http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2006/9378/9378.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 ok, heres another possable route of toxin poisoning to the blood stream and straight to the brain. I can see where this could be possable with both long term and high dose/shorter term exposure. sorry it's not layed out, just ruff notes but I hope some well get the just of it. haven't really heard much about this possability but we do know the trigminal nerve and some other nerves can be affected so I dont think this thinking would be to far out of line. I know my mucosa linings suffered some pretty bad damage,all of it, not just my nose. but thats what Im refering to here. TOXINS UP THE NOSE,TRAPPED IN MUCUS CAN GET THROUGH MUCOUS MEMBRANE INTO BLOOD STREAM,(BLOOD POISONING) CAUSEING INFLAMMATION OF THE MEMBRANES AROUND THE BRAIN AND SPINAL CORD (MENINGES), INFECTION CAUSING MENINGITIS. SWELLING IN THE MENINGES CREATES PRESSURE AROUND THE BRAIN THAT CAN CAUSE NERVE DAMAGE. SYMPTOMS INCLUDING SEVERE HEADACHE, SENSITIVITY TO LIGHTS, STIFF NECK, CONFUSION. DAMAGED BLOOD VESSELS,VASCULITIS. THE NOSE IS A VERY VULNERABLE VASCULAR ORGAN. THE NOSE IS SUSCEPTABLE TO INTERNAL IRRITATION WHICH CAN CAUSE VESSELS IN THE NOSE TO RUPTURE CAUSEING NOSE BLEEDS. THE CAPILLARIES IN THE NOSE ARE QUITE DELICATE, A RISE IN BLOOD PRESSURE CAN RUPTURE THE CAPILLARIES. SOMETIMES THIS PHYSICAL BARRIER IS NOT AS FUNCTIONAL OR AS PRESENT AS ONE WOULD HOPE THROUGH THE NOSE BEFORE THEY PASS THROUGH THE PHARYNX,LARYNX AND TRACHEA INTO THE BRONCHI AND THE LUNGS. UNDER THE MUCOUS MEMBRANE IS ERECTILE TISSUE THAT IS SENSITIVE TO TEMPERATURE AND CAUSES TISSUES OF THE AREA TO SWELL WITH THE INFLUX OF BLOOD WHEN THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF COLD, DRY, OR CONTAMINATED AIR. THIS NARROWS THE PASSAGES AND THUS SLOWS THE INCOMING AIR. MUCUS PRODUCTION AND CLEARANCE IS REGULATED BY A COMPLEX INTERACTION OF NERVES,BLOOD VESSELS, GLANDS,MUSCLES,HORMONES,AND CILIA. BIOLOGICAL WARFARE,MYCOTOXIN EXPOSURE,NASAL SYMPTOMS, BLOODY NOSE + ACUTE BIOLOGICAL TOXINS/UNIVERSITY OF FL. http://www.ehs.ufl.edu/Bio/toxin.htm SINUSES,HISTAMINE,BLOOD VESSELLS anaphalaxis-systemic reaction that accurs when a allergen is introduced directly into the circulation, such as occurs with injection or insect stings. a massive early phase reaction occurs throughout the body. inner lining of the nose-mucosa,contains serous,mucus glands and a large number of mast cells. mucosa extends to the openings leading to the sinuses and eustachian tube where it is continuous with the mucosa of the sinuses and middle ear,respectively, the release of histamine,heparin and neuropeptides provokes vasodilation, swelling of mucosa and stimulatory effects on mucus secreting glands. swelling of mucosa can form polups blocking sinus airways. mucosa linings-nasal,oral,respirtory,digestive. drug delivery,nasal mucosa lining,side effects, irritation and possably irreversible damage to the ciliary action of the nasal cavity from chronic application, long term use not recommended. chronic sinusitis-change in secretory function, decrease in ciliary beating. damaged cilia stop functioning. nasal spray may treat alzheimers/drugs targeted at nerve endings in the upper portion of the nose can rush to the brain and bypass the protective BBB.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1240544/nasal_spray_may_treat_alzheimers/ind\ ex.html?source=r_health mast cells can mediate vascular permeability through regulation of the P13-HIF-1-VEGF Axis http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/178/8/787 the cranial nerves http://www.becomehealthynow.com/ebookprint.php?id=812 vasculitis http://vasculitis.med.jhu.edu/whatis/symptoms.html#sinuses ---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 We had several toxic molds in our house including Fusarium. Some of the experts told us that Fusarium is worse than Stachybotrys. ________________________________ From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...> Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 9:23:23 AM Subject: [] Re: humm, what about estrogen effects of certain myco's ? fusarium exposure from indoor environments may be rare but it does happen. hard to say, maybe other molds or chemicals that could be possably found in these water damaged building could also cause estrogen effects. I think there might be some answers here as to why some might show IgE mediated effects and some dont. maybe it possable that it depends on just exactly what we were exposed to. the mast cell effects and knowing they play in with the mucosa linings and the damage that can happen to the mucosa linings which can be severe and the loss of protection when the mucosa linings are damaged, I believe can play a hudge roll here in differences relateing to exposures organ damage and recovery. I had planed on trying to put together something on this because I fell like I'm sometimes out in left field here, and I fell somethings are overlooked because it's just not what most are dealing with. but I'm finding that I cant have more than one project going at a time because it's just to distracting for me, so I may just post the just of it and let it go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 both produce trichothecene's, I dont know, I'm kindof felling like zea can cause menstral problems,pain,endermetreosis and hisderectomys, wowan could have a lot more problems than man from this, but I know some men have talked about hormone issues here before. > > We had several toxic molds in our house including Fusarium. Some of the experts told us that Fusarium is worse than Stachybotrys. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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