Re: Mold Ignorance in England

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Sounds like some marketeers are possibly controlling that site. It

happens all the time over this issue.

Here is what appears to be another one:

Subject: Indoor Air Quality: Separating Fact from Fiction

Please join: The Lawson Group and Occupational Health & Safety

Topic: Indoor Air Quality: Separating Fact from Fiction

Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009

Time: 2 PM (EST), 11 AM (PST)

Register Today at:

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Overview:

" Indoor Air Quality: Separating Fact from Fiction " covers issues relating

to

Indoor Air Quality (IAQ) including common complaints, contaminants and

sources, the anatomy of an effective IAQ assessment, and IAQ standards.

The presentation begins with the overall comparison of IAQ issues and

their

origins. Many IAQ complaints emanate from either real or perceived symptoms

and often have little to do with the quality of the indoor environment,

never mind air quality. Many companies deal poorly with the investigation

of

these complaints that, in many cases, only exacerbate the situation,

leading

to " ghost chasing " scenarios that are very expensive and do little to help

evaluate the real problems so that real solutions can be recommended.

The core of the discussion will be regarding a meaningful evaluation of the

indoor environment, based largely on occupant input, which has a much

greater chance of a successful investigation with satisfying outcomes for

both building managers and occupants alike.

Other issues that will be discussed include ways IAQ issues surface; the

types of IAQ contaminants, such as mold; mold recognition and sampling

styles; how to control IAQ problems; the components of an effective IAQ

survey; and more.

Learning Outcomes for this Webinar:

- An understanding of IAQ contaminants and the sources of these

contaminants

- Using occupant driven perceptions about the occupied space to determine

sampling strategies

- An understanding of how to control/prevent IAQ problems from occurring

- A comprehension of the systematic approach to identifying and addressing

IAQ problems once they occur

- Exposure to real-life examples that tie all the above learning

objectives

together

Speaker:

Lawson; MS; Certified Industrial Hygienist; President of The

Lawson Companies

Lawson is the Founder and President of Lawson Group, Ltd.,

Comp-SIGMA Ltd., and Workforce Wellness, subsidiaries of The Lawson

Companies. With more than 30 years of industry experience, Lawson's areas

of

expertise include the solicitation of commercial and governmental clients,

the preparation of proposals and reports of recommendation for resolution

of

problems, client representation with OSHA, the preparation of OSHA

abatement

plans and progress reports, marketing and performing occupational health

and

safety audits, as well as conducting surveys and reviews for industrial,

construction, commercial and institutional clients.

A Q & A session will be held during the last 15 minutes of the Webinar.

Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009

Time: 2 PM (EST), 11 AM (PST)

Register Today at:

http://www.1105info.com/t.do?id=3557163:19364777

[Guest guest]

who knows, maybe your words well cause a lightbulb moment in the mom's head. as

far as the responder, maybe he's just a quack, or related to a quack, or one of

those paid quack depefenders that set around posting dumb answers to cause

doubt.

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> I was browsing through a feature called " Answers " , which is

similar to our health boards, except that the original question is deleted

after 4 or 5 days, and no archive is permanently kept. After answering the

" respiratory disease questions " , where I felt that I could speak intelligently,

I clicked on the tiny British flag, at the bottom of the page, to see what

questions I could answer on " UK " , as every country has it's own

functions. I came across the parent of a 2 year old child, whose child was

showing no improvement with her respiratory problems, after a full year of

treatment. And, on top of this, the child's doctor's were treating the parent as

if he/she was " ignorant " (parent's word). So I posted the following reply to the

parent's " plea for help " question.

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> When I checked back, the following day, to see what other responses had been

posted, to the parent's question, I was shocked to see the last 2 sentences in

the reply posted by " kenM " . (His response follows my response, in this posting).

Ignorance about the harmful effects of mold appears to be a worldwide

phenomenon. Most breakthrough mold/mycotoxin research comes out of Europe. But,

it would seem, that knowledge has not filtered down to the average " jerk on the

street " . After reading my reply, see the reply of " KenM " , which follows mine.

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> MY Reply

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> YOU are not ignorant. Your doctors are ignorant. Whenever doctors don't have

any idea of what is causing symptoms, they just put a " label " on the symptoms,

and feel that they have done their job, even though you, or your daughter, are

STILL deathly ill. Given the seasons that you say your daughter is sickest, I

would suggest that you first explore the possibility that the cause of her

" asthma " is related to an environmental factor. The most likely suspect would be

MOLD. This involves moving her out of your home, for at least 2 weeks, to see if

her symptoms improve, in a different environment. If her symptoms improve, or

disappear, it would indicate that she had been experiencing a " toxic " mold

reaction, in your home. This is different than an allergic mold reaction, which

triggers asthma. The " toxic " mold reaction, is " non-allergic " , but causes the

same difficulty breathing, as asthma does, and is only partially relieved by

using the " rescue " inhaler.

> Doctors are taught very little about environmental illness, and absolutely

nothing about " toxic " mold. After you get your daughter out of your home, if you

wish to learn about " toxic " mold illness, You can go to " UNITED STATES " ,

(www.)where I live, and search for their Health Groups, which are

FREE interactive blogs. Sign on to the " Sickbuildings " group, where the

illnesses caused by indoor mold are discussed. When you leave your home, to go

to a new living space for 2 weeks, do not take any dolls, or other fabric toys

with you, as enough mold will be clinging to them, to make your daughter sick.

If you can buy her, and yourself, new clothes, to wear in your new living space,

it would make the test results more accurate. The first thing that you, and your

daughter, and any pet should do, on arrival in your new space, is take baths, or

showers, to wash away any mold clinging to your body and hair, BEFORE you lay

down and

> " cross-contaminate " your new bedding, with mold from your home. Do NOT take

any bedding from your home, into the new environment. If you take any beds, wash

down the hard wood or metal or plastic parts, outside, or inside your new

environment. Mold can cling to anything made of fabric, so try not to take any,

from your home to your new environment. It's really best to NOT take any pet

with you. Once you start this 2 week " change-of-environment " test, your daughter

must NOT re-enter your home, even for 5 minutes, as the way " toxic " mold

reaction works, is that your body loses all the " de-toxification " benefits it is

experiencing in the NEW environment, and you are back to zero, in the " de-tox "

process. If this " change-of-environment " experiment does not work, you at least,

have had a 2 week vacation.The reason that the experiment must be for a minimum

of 2 weeks, is that a " toxic " mold reaction takes days or weeks to disappear,

after leaving the home,

> while an " allergic/asthmatic " mold reaction can start improving in minutes or

hours, after leaving the home. To do a thorough " change-of environment " test,

you should consider keeping her out of play school, on the possibility that her

mold exposure is taking place there. It is possible that your daughter has BOTH

an allergic/asthmatic reaction to mold, AND a toxic reaction to mold. For

treating her asthmatic reaction, she would get more medication into her lungs,

if the medication was taken by Nebulizer, so that she could wear a mask, and

inhale deeply over a period of a few minutes, rather than trying to co-ordinate

2 deep inhalations with the pushing of the inhaler. I hope that you are aware

that your daughter has to rinse out her mouth, and gargle in her throat, after

using her corticosteroid inhaler. We have different colors, on our inhalers, in

the U.S.A., so ask your doctor which inhaler that is. Not rinsing and gargling,

could result in a nasty,

> painful, fungal infection (visible as a " white tongue " ) in the mouth and

throat. Good luck and God bless. For follow-up, you can email me.

josephsalowitz@...

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> This sounds like typical asthma, not being well controlled. Two years old is

somewhat young to be able to use any inhaler very well, and if they are not

being used really efficiently, they don't work, at all!

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> Bottom line here, is that the treatment is not working, for whatever reason.

There are medications available in an oral liquid form, and they might be better

options.

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> However, if your practitioner is uncomfortable with going further in asthma

treatment, a referral to a pediatric allergy/asthma specialist would be totally

reasonable.

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> by the way, most conventional practitioners consider the mold thing to be a

hokum thing invented by lawyers. Your mileage may vary.

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