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This was posted at another list I read.

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The following article was found at

http://www.rense.com/general35/av.htm and I found it so interesting that

I am repeating it here. Has anyone else

tried this?

Quote:

Cure Breast Cancer By

Avoiding All Milk Products

By Prof. Jane Plant, PhD, CBE

http://www.litopia.com/jplant/bio.htm

The Daily Mail - UK (5-27-00)

2-26-3

Why I believe that giving up milk is

the key to beating breast cancer...

Professor Jane Plant is a wife, a

mother, and widely respected scientist, who was made a CBE for her

work in geochemistry. When she was

struck by breast cancer in 1987 at the age of 42, her happy and

productive existence seemed destined

to fall apart. But despite the disease recurring a further four times,

Jane refused to give in. As she

describes in an inspiring new book, [Your Life In Your Hands] serialised by

the Mail this week, she devised a

revolutionary diet and lifestyle programme that she believes saved her

life and can cut the chances of other

women falling prey to the disease.

Her theory remains a controversial

one - but every woman should read it and make up her own mind.

Today, she explains her personal

breakthrough...

I had no alternative but to die or to

try to find a cure for myself. I am a scientist - surely there was a

rational explanation for this cruel

illness that affects one in 12 women in the UK?

I had suffered the loss of one

breast, and undergone radiotherapy. I was now receiving painful

chemotherapy, and had been seen by

some of the country's most eminent specialists. But, deep down, I

felt certain I was facing death.

I had a loving husband, a beautiful

home and two young children to care for. I desperately wanted to live.

Fortunately, this desire drove me to

unearth the facts, some of which were known only to a handful of

scientists at the time.

Anyone who has come into contact with

breast cancer will know that certain risk factors - such as

increasing age, early onset of

womanhood, late onset of menopause and a family history of breast cancer

- are completely out of our control.

But there are many risk factors, which we can control easily. These

'controllable' risk factors readily

translate into simple changes that we can all make in our day-to-day

lives to help prevent or treat breast

cancer. My message is that even advanced breast cancer can be

overcome because I have done it.

The first clue to understanding what

was promoting my breast cancer came when my husband , who

was also a scientist, arrived back

from working in China while I was being plugged in for a chemotherapy

session.

He had brought with him cards and

letters, as well as some amazing herbal suppositories, sent by my

friends and science colleagues in China.

The suppositories were sent to me as

a cure for breast cancer. Despite the awfulness of the situation, we

both had a good belly laugh, and I

remember saying that this was the treatment for breast cancer in

China, then it was little wonder that

Chinese women avoided getting the disease. Those words echoed in

my mind. Why didn't Chinese women get

breast cancer? I had collaborated once with Chinese colleagues

on a study of links between soil

chemistry and disease, and I remembered some of the statistics.

The disease was virtually

non-existent throughout the whole country. Only one in 10,000 women in China

will die from it, compared to that

terrible figure of one in 12 in Britain and the even grimmer average of

one in 10 across most Western countries.

It is not just a matter of China

being a more rural country, with less urban pollution. In highly urbanised

Hong Kong, the rate rises to 34 women

in every 10,000 but still puts the West to shame.

The Japanese cities of Hiroshima and

Nagasaki have similar rates. And remember, both cities were

attacked with nuclear weapons, so in

addition to the usual pollution-related cancers, one would also

expect to find some radiation-related

cases, too. The conclusion we can draw from these statistics strikes

you with some force. If a Western

woman were to move to industrialized, irradiated Hiroshima, she would

stash her risk of contracting breast

cancer by half.

Obviously this is absurd. It seemed

obvious to me that some lifestyle factor not related to pollution,

urbanization or the environment is

seriously increasing the Western woman's chance of contracting breast

cancer.

I then discovered that whatever

causes the huge differences in breast cancer rates between oriental and

Western countries, it isn't genetic.

Scientific research showed that when Chinese or Japanese people

move to the West, within one or two

generations their rates of breast cancer approach those of their host

community.

The same thing happens when oriental

people adopt a completely Western lifestyle in Hong Kong. In fact,

the slang name for breast cancer in

China translates as 'Rich Woman's Disease'. This is because, in

China, only the better off can afford

to eat what is

termed 'Hong Kong food'.

The Chinese describe all Western

food, including everything from ice cream and chocolate bars to

spaghetti and feta cheese, as 'Hong

Kong food', because of its availability in the former British colony and

its scarcity, in the past, in

mainland China.

So it made perfect sense to me that

whatever was causing my breast cancer and the shockingly high

incidence in this country generally,

it was almost certainly something to do with our better-off,

middle-class, Western lifestyle.

There is an important point for men

here, too. I have observed in my research that much of the the data

about prostate cancer leads to

similar conclusions.

According to figures from the World

Health Organization, the number of men contracting prostate cancer

in rural China is negligible, only

0.5 men in every 100,000. In England, Scotland and Wales, however, this

figure is 70 times higher.

Like breast cancer, it is a

middle-class disease that primarily attacks the wealthier and higher

socio-economic groups - those that

can afford to eat rich foods.

I remember saying to my husband--

'Come on , you have just come back from China. What is it

about the Chinese way of life that is

so different. Why don't they get breast cancer?'

We decided to utilize our joint

scientific backgrounds and approach it logically. We examined scientific

data that pointed us in the general

direction of fats in diets.

Researchers had discovered in the

1980s that only l4 % of calories in the average Chinese diet were from

fat, compared to almost 36% in the

West. But the diet I had been living on for years before I contracted

breast cancer was very low in fat and

high in fibre.

Besides, I knew as a scientist that

fat intake in adults has not been shown to increase risk for breast

cancer in most investigations that

have followed large groups of women for up to a dozen years.

Then one day something rather special

happened. and I have worked together so closely over the

years that I am not sure which one of

us first said: 'The Chinese don't eat dairy produce!'

It is hard to explain to a

non-scientist the sudden mental and emotional 'buzz' you get when you

know you

have had an important insight.

It's as if you have had a lot of

pieces of a jigsaw in your mind, and suddenly, in a few seconds, they all

fall into place and the whole picture

is clear.

Suddenly I recalled how many Chinese

people were physically unable to tolerate milk, how the Chinese

people I had worked with had always

said that milk was only for babies, and how one of my close friends,

who is of Chinese origin, always

politely turned down the cheese course at dinner parties.

I knew of no Chinese people who lived

a traditional Chinese life who ever used cow or other dairy food to

feed their babies. The tradition was

to use a wet nurse but never, ever, dairy products.

Culturally, the Chinese find our

Western preoccupation with milk and milk products very strange. I

remember entertaining a large

delegation of Chinese scientists shortly after the ending of the Cultural

Revolution in the 1980s.

On advice from the Foreign Office, we

had asked the caterer to provide a pudding that contained a lot of

ice cream. After inquiring what the

pudding consisted of, all of the Chinese, including their interpreter,

politely but firmly refused to eat

it, and they could not be persuaded to change their minds. At the time we

were all delighted and ate extra portions!

Milk, I discovered, is one of the

most common causes of food allergies.

Over 70% of the world's population

are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, which has led nutritionists

to believe that this is the normal

condition for adults, not some sort of deficiency. Perhaps nature is trying

to tell us that we are eating the

wrong food.

Before I had breast cancer for the

first time, I had eaten a lot of dairy produce, such as skimmed milk,

low-fat cheese and yoghurt. I had

used it as my main source of protein. I also ate cheap but lean minced

beef, which I now realized was

probably often ground-up dairy cow.

In order to cope with the

chemotherapy I received for my fifth case of cancer, I had been eating organic

yoghurts as a way of helping my

digestive tract to recover and repopulate my gut with 'good' bacteria.

Recently, I discovered that way back

in 1989 yoghurt had been implicated in ovarian cancer. Dr

Cramer of Harvard University studied

hundreds of women with ovarian cancer, and had them record in

detail what they normally ate. I wish

I'd been made aware of his findings when he had first discovered

them.

Following 's and my insight into

the Chinese diet, I decided to give up not just yoghurt but all dairy

produce immediately. Cheese, butter,

milk and yoghurt and anything else that contained dairy produce -

it went down the sink or in the rubbish.

It is surprising how many products,

including commercial soups, biscuits and cakes, contain some form of

dairy produce. Even many proprietary

brands of margarine marketed as soya, sunflower or olive oil

spreads can contain dairy produce. I

therefore became an avid reader of the small print on food labels.

Up to this point, I had been

steadfastly measuring the progress of my fifth cancerous lump with callipers

and plotting the results. Despite all

the encouraging comments and positive feedback from my doctors

and nurses, my own precise

observations told me the bitter truth.

My first chemotherapy sessions had

produced no effect - the lump was still the same size.

Then I eliminated dairy products.

Within days, the lump started to shrink. About two weeks after my

second chemotherapy session and one

week after giving up dairy produce, the lump in my neck started to

itch. Then it began to soften and to

reduce in size. The line on the graph, which had shown no change,

was now pointing downwards as the

tumour got smaller and smaller.

And, very significantly, I noted that

instead of declining exponentially (a graceful curve) as cancer is

meant to do, the tumour's decrease in

size was plotted on a straight line heading off the bottom of the

graph, indicating a cure, not

suppression (or remission) of the tumour.

One Saturday afternoon after about

six weeks of excluding all dairy produce from my diet, I practised an

hour of meditation then felt for what

was left of the lump. I couldn't find it.

Yet I was very experienced at

detecting cancerous lumps - I had discovered all five cancers on my own. I

went downstairs and asked my husband

to feel my neck. He could not find any trace of the lump either.

On the following Thursday I was due

to be seen by my cancer specialist at Charing Cross Hospital in

London.

He examined me thoroughly, especially

my neck where the tumour had been. He was initially bemused

and then delighted as he said, " I

cannot find it.' None of my doctors, it appeared, had expected someone

with my type and stage of cancer

(which had clearly spread to the lymph system) to survive, let alone be

so hale and hearty.

My specialist was as overjoyed as I

was. When I first discussed my ideas with him he was understandably

skeptical. But I understand that he

now uses maps showing cancer mortality in China in his lectures, and

recommends a non-dairy diet to his

cancer patients.

I now believe that the link between

dairy produce and breast cancer is similar to the link between

smoking and lung cancer. I believe

that identifying the link between breast cancer and dairy produce, and

then developing a diet specifically

targeted at maintaining the health of my breast and hormone system,

cured me.

It was difficult for me, as it may be

for you, to accept that a substance as 'natural' as milk might have

such ominous health implications. But

I am a living proof that it works and, starting from tomorrow, I shall

reveal the secrets of my

revolutionary action plan.

Extracted from Your Life in Your

Hands, by Professor Jane Plant, to be published by Virgin on June 8 at

£16.99. © Professor Jane Plant, 2000.

_____

Jane Plant's conviction that dairy

products can cause cancer arises from the complex chemical makeup of

milk. All mature breast milk, from

humans or other mammals, is a medium for transporting hundreds of

chemical components.

It is a powerful biochemical

solution, designed specifically to provide for the individual needs of young

mammals of the same species. Jane

says: " It is not that cow's milk isn't a good food. It is a great food-

for baby cows. It is not intended by

nature for consumption by any species other than baby cows. It is

nutritionally different from human

breast milk, containing three times as much protein and far more

calcium.'

Breast milk, like cow's milk,

contains chemicals designed to play an important rote in the development of

young cattle. One of these, insulin

growth factor IGF-1,causes cells to divide and reproduce.

IGF-1 is biologically active in

humans, especially during puberty, when growth is rapid. In young girls it

stimulates breast tissue to grow and,

while its levels are high during pregnancy, the hormones prolactin

and oestrogen are also active,

enlarging breast tissue and increasing the production of milk ducts in

preparation for breast-feeding.

Though the concentration and

secretions of these hormones in the blood are small, they exert a powerful

effect on the body. All these

hormones are present in cow's milk. IGF-1 is identical in make-up,

whether in

human or cow's milk, but its levels

are naturally higher in cow's milk. It is also found in the meat of cows.

High levels of IGF-1 in humans are

thought to be a risk factor for breast and prostate cancer. A 1998

study of pre-menopausal women

revealed that those with the highest levels of IGF-1 in their bloodstream

ran almost three times the risk of

developing breast cancer compared with women who had low levels.

Among women younger than 50, the risk

was increased seven times.

Other studies have shown that high

circulating levels of IGF-1 In men are a strong indicator of prostate

cancer. Interestingly, recent

measures to improve milk yields have boosted IGF-1 levels in cows. Could

IGF-1 from milk and the meat of dairy

animals cause a build-up in humans, especially over a lifetime,

leading to inappropriate cell

division? Though we produce our own IGF-1, could it be that the extra

amounts we ingest from dairy produce

actually cause cancer?

Jane Plant already knew that one way

the high-profile drug tamoxifen, used in the treatment of breast

cancer, is thought to work by

lowering circulating levels of IGF-1.

IGF-1 is not destroyed by

pasteurization, but critics argue that it is destroyed by digestion

and rendered harmless. Jane believes

the main milk protein, casein, prevents this from happening and

that homogenization, which prevents

milk from separating into milk and cream, could further increase the

risk of cancer-promoting hormones and

other chemicals reaching the bloodstream.

She also believes there are other

chemicals in cow's milk that may be responsible for

sending muddied signals to adult

tissue. Could prolactin, released to stimulate milk production in cows,

have a similar effect on human breast

tissue, effectively triggering the same response and causing cells to

become confused, stressed and start

making mistakes in replicating their own DNA? Studies have

confirmed that prolactin promotes the

growth of prostate cancer cells in culture.

Another hormone, oestrogen,

considered one of the main risk factors for breast cancer, is present in milk

in minute quantities. But even low

levels of hormones are known to cause severe biological damage.

Microscopic quantities of oestrogen

in our rivers are powerful enough to cause the feminisation of many

male species of fish. While oestrogen

in milk may not pose a direct threat to tissues, it may stimulate the

expression of IGF-1, resulting in

long-term tumour growth.

Jane, who has found growing support

for her theories from cancer specialists, stresses

that she is not setting out to attack

more orthodox approaches. She intends her dietary programme to

complement the best therapies

available from conventional medicine, not to replace them.

_____

Pure But Deadly - Is Milk Potentially Fatal?

http://www.ostomyinternational.org/June2000/1124.html

Dairy-free diet and breast/colon cancer

IOA Archived Discussion Forum May 2000

Posted By Dungan on June 19,

2000 at 17:40:01:

The following review appeared last

week in the Irish Times.

Has anyone out there opinions or

experiences relevant to Prof Plant's approach? British scientist Jane

Plant, who believes a dairy-free diet

helped her recover from breast cancer, talks to Donovan

Tempted by a cream bun, you talk

yourself out of it with thoughts of all that unhealthy fat clogging up

your arteries. You opt for a low-fat

yoghurt instead, with skimmed milk in your tea, congratulating

yourself on your sensible

self-control. Think again. According to a ground-breaking new book about breast

cancer (which kills over 600 women in

Ireland annually), dairy products, whether low-fat or full cream,

should be off everyone's menu

overnight. (They are also culpable with regard to prostate cancer, so that

really means everyone).

Prof Jane Plant CBE, author of Your

Life in Your Hands, was diagnosed with breast cancer 13 years ago.

She was 42, a successful geochemist

(she is now chief scientist of the British Geological Survey), and led,

she thought, a healthy life. There

was no history of breast cancer in her family. She discovered that " only

five to 10 per cent of breast cancers

are the result of inherited genes, and the disease may not always

develop, even in those carrying the

mutated gene. " Bamboozled by jargon and frozen with panic, she fell

back on her scientific training to

try and figure out how she had developed the disease, and how best to

cure herself.

She went on the Bristol diet, she had

a mastectomy, she had radiotherapy, she had her ovaries irradiated

(to induce menopause and eliminate

oestrogen), she asked questions and did lots of research. To no

avail.

By the time of the cancer's fifth

recurrence (it spread into the lymph), she was given a course of

chemotherapy and three months to

live. She had an egg-sized tumour on the side of her neck.

Brainstorming one night with her

fellow scientist husband about why, in the West, one in 10 women get

breast cancer (one in 14 in Ireland),

while in China it's only one woman in 10,000, the pair came up with

the simple answer: Chinese people

don't eat dairy products.

Plant eliminated all dairy products

(including goat and sheep) from her diet. Six weeks later, the tumour

had disappeared.

When I meet her she is a

youthful-looking woman in her mid-fifties, quaffing mint tea and eating

a tuna

sandwich (no butter or mayonnaise).

She has stayed on her dairy-free diet and has remained clear of

cancer.

Giving up dairy products was only

part of a healthy regimen she had been following throughout her

cancer, including taking folic acid

and zinc supplements, drinking filtered water and never consuming

anything that had been packaged in

plastic (phthalates, harmful carcinogenic chemicals, leak from soft

plastic into food).

In spite of her best efforts it was

only after she gave up all dairy products that the cancer disappeared.

Sixty-three other women who had

breast cancer and who came to her for advice, also recovered after

giving up dairy products.

So how, I ask, can dairy products--

beloved of both the Irish and British alike, not to mention the

Americans whose diet is 40 per cent

dairy-- have such a lethal effect? " Milk is designed as the perfect

food for newborn animals. They can't

eat ordinary food, they are dependent on milk to keep development

and cell differentiation going. But

milk contains a chemical-- insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1 -- which

girls have naturally as teenagers

to help their breasts develop. This

chemical-- which is designed to stimulate cell growth-- can send the

wrong signal to adult breast tissue. "

She quotes studies in the US and

Canada in 1998 which found that pre-menopausal women with the

highest IGF-1 concentration in their

blood had a far higher risk of developing breast cancer (similar

studies have found a link between

IGF-1 and prostate cancer). The drug Tamoxifen, prescribed for women

with breast cancer, is thought to

work by reducing circulating IGF-1 levels.

" Over 70 per cent of the world's

population are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, " she observes.

" Lactose intolerance may be nature's

early warning system: perhaps nature is trying to tell us that we're

eating the wrong food. "

Homogenization apparently only enables cancer-producing chemicals to

reach the

bloodstream quicker.

Plant has done her homework:

" Epidemiological studies have indicated a positive correlation between

dairy product consumption and breast

cancer risk going back two decades. Studies have found an

increase in breast cancer risk among

women who consumed milk (especially whole milk) and/or cheese. "

In 1977 scientists examining the

incidence of breast cancer in Japan found " a significant increase in both

the consumption of dairy products and

the occurrence of breast cancer in urban areas " .

She quotes more research to suggest

that " free oestrogens " -- found in commercial pasteurized whole

cow's milk and in skimmed milk-- may

stimulate expression of IGF-1 resulting in " indirect long-term

tumour growth " .

She lists dioxins and other damaging

environmental chemicals, some of them carcinogenic, which are

often fat soluble and end up

" particularly concentrated " in milk.

As for the argument that we need

dairy products because they contain calcium, Plant quotes the World

Health Organization's finding that

countries which have low intakes of calcium do not have an increased

incidence of osteoporosis:

" Scientific studies into calcium absorption have shown that only 18 to

36 per

cent of the calcium in milk is taken

up by the body. "

Now that we're convinced, what should

we be eating instead? Plant recommends soya milk, herbal tea,

humous, tofu, nuts and seeds,

non-farmed fish, organic eggs and lean meat (not minced beef, which

tends to be dairy cow) and plenty of

fresh organic fruit and vegetables (in salads, juiced, or lightly

steamed).

But how can the average woman afford

the time and energy it takes to source and prepare such food?

" Your priority should be good food,

not glop, " she stresses. " Put organic food first. Your health is more

important than a new car. Anyway, I

don't find it too costly-- after all, I don't buy any processed food,

which is very expensive. "

Her husband and two children have no

problem following her diet. And although she travels a lot for her

job, she finds that she is able to

manage-- she includes many tips in her book about what to bring with

you on a trip (dried soya milk,

herbal tea bags, kelp tablets for iodine, etc).

She is about to start writing a new

book, a guide for busy women who want to stay healthy.

She advocates thorough and frequent

self-examination of your breasts, and, if you do develop breast

cancer, self-empowerment by working

with your doctor " as a partner,

not as a victim " .

She is not a fan of the Louise Hay

You Can Heal Your Life philosophy: " I do believe in positive thinking,

but I'm also a scientist and I wanted

a rational explanation. I have friends with diseases like MS who have

read Hay's books and feel guilty

because they can't adapt their mental attitude; or, if they have adapted,

and the disease doesn't go away, they

become distressed. "

Plant, who is an advocate of

acupuncture, has varying opinions of alternative therapies. She is suspicious

of aromatherapy, found visualization

didn't work, but took much comfort from cognitive therapy and

hypnotherapy (both of which helped

her to reduce the stress and anxiety caused by having cancer).

Overall, however, it was her

professional research as a geochemist into the links between disease and

trace elements (such as selenium) in

the environment in China and Korea that led to her insight about the

role of dairy produce in her cancer.

She finds the medical profession particularly shortsighted about the

influence of environmental factors--

such as pollution and industrialization-- on disease: " I think public

health has done a lot for the

elimination of infectious diseases, but looking at the environment and

nutrition could do the same for a lot

of degenerative diseases. "

Plant started writing Your Life in

Your Hands for her daughter Emma (now 25). Emma's teen years were

dominated by the fear that her mother

was going to die: " The book's original title was What I Want My

Daughter to Know, " recalls Plant.

" The 63 women with breast cancer who followed my diet and survived

their cancer encouraged me to publish

the book. I was reluctant at first-- I knew I'd get flak for it,

because science is an

adversarial process.

But morally, I felt if I had done the

research and I had the information, I should share it with others. Men

and women have the right to know what

I know, and to draw their own

conclusions. "

Your Life in Your Hands by Jane Plant

is published by Virgin at £16.99 in UK

Dungan,

Dublin

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This is interesting. She misses one key point: Chinese women USE

their breasts, they don't give their babies formula ( which she did

talk about in this article). Breastfeeding for 2-4 years offers a

many-fold protection against breastcancer.

Virginia

-- In , <ebaker@n...> wrote:

> This was posted at another list I read.

> --

> The following article was found at

> http://www.rense.com/general35/av.htm and I found it so interesting

that

> I am repeating it here. Has anyone else

> tried this?

>

> Quote:

> Cure Breast Cancer By

> Avoiding All Milk Products

> By Prof. Jane Plant, PhD, CBE

>

http://www.litopia.com/jplant/bio.htm

> The Daily Mail - UK (5-27-00)

> 2-26-3

>

> Why I believe that giving up

milk is

> the key to beating breast cancer...

>

> Professor Jane Plant is a wife, a

> mother, and widely respected scientist, who was made a CBE for her

> work in geochemistry. When she

was

> struck by breast cancer in 1987 at the age of 42, her happy and

> productive existence seemed

destined

> to fall apart. But despite the disease recurring a further four

times,

> Jane refused to give in. As she

> describes in an inspiring new book, [Your Life In Your Hands]

serialised by

> the Mail this week, she devised a

> revolutionary diet and lifestyle programme that she believes saved

her

> life and can cut the chances of

other

> women falling prey to the disease.

>

> Her theory remains a

controversial

> one - but every woman should read it and make up her own mind.

> Today, she explains her personal

breakthrough...

>

>

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I'm no expert; but it could be that the harmful affects of milk are eliminated

by boiling and the vit c?

[ ] Re: breast cancer

This was posted at another list I read.

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The following article was found at

http://www.rense.com/general35/av.htm and I found it so interesting that

I am repeating it here. Has anyone else

tried this?

Quote:

Cure Breast Cancer By

Avoiding All Milk Products

By Prof. Jane Plant, PhD, CBE

http://www.litopia.com/jplant/bio.htm

The Daily Mail - UK (5-27-00)

2-26-3

Why I believe that giving up milk is

the key to beating breast cancer...

Professor Jane Plant is a wife, a

mother, and widely respected scientist, who was made a CBE for her

work in geochemistry. When she was

struck by breast cancer in 1987 at the age of 42, her happy and

productive existence seemed destined

to fall apart. But despite the disease recurring a further four times,

Jane refused to give in. As she

describes in an inspiring new book, [Your Life In Your Hands] serialised by

the Mail this week, she devised a

revolutionary diet and lifestyle programme that she believes saved her

life and can cut the chances of other

women falling prey to the disease.

Her theory remains a controversial

one - but every woman should read it and make up her own mind.

Today, she explains her personal

breakthrough...

I had no alternative but to die or to

try to find a cure for myself. I am a scientist - surely there was a

rational explanation for this cruel

illness that affects one in 12 women in the UK?

I had suffered the loss of one

breast, and undergone radiotherapy. I was now receiving painful

chemotherapy, and had been seen by

some of the country's most eminent specialists. But, deep down, I

felt certain I was facing death.

I had a loving husband, a beautiful

home and two young children to care for. I desperately wanted to live.

Fortunately, this desire drove me to

unearth the facts, some of which were known only to a handful of

scientists at the time.

Anyone who has come into contact with

breast cancer will know that certain risk factors - such as

increasing age, early onset of

womanhood, late onset of menopause and a family history of breast cancer

- are completely out of our control.

But there are many risk factors, which we can control easily. These

'controllable' risk factors readily

translate into simple changes that we can all make in our day-to-day

lives to help prevent or treat breast

cancer. My message is that even advanced breast cancer can be

overcome because I have done it.

The first clue to understanding what

was promoting my breast cancer came when my husband , who

was also a scientist, arrived back

from working in China while I was being plugged in for a chemotherapy

session.

He had brought with him cards and

letters, as well as some amazing herbal suppositories, sent by my

friends and science colleagues in China.

The suppositories were sent to me as

a cure for breast cancer. Despite the awfulness of the situation, we

both had a good belly laugh, and I

remember saying that this was the treatment for breast cancer in

China, then it was little wonder that

Chinese women avoided getting the disease. Those words echoed in

my mind. Why didn't Chinese women get

breast cancer? I had collaborated once with Chinese colleagues

on a study of links between soil

chemistry and disease, and I remembered some of the statistics.

The disease was virtually

non-existent throughout the whole country. Only one in 10,000 women in China

will die from it, compared to that

terrible figure of one in 12 in Britain and the even grimmer average of

one in 10 across most Western countries.

It is not just a matter of China

being a more rural country, with less urban pollution. In highly urbanised

Hong Kong, the rate rises to 34 women

in every 10,000 but still puts the West to shame.

The Japanese cities of Hiroshima and

Nagasaki have similar rates. And remember, both cities were

attacked with nuclear weapons, so in

addition to the usual pollution-related cancers, one would also

expect to find some radiation-related

cases, too. The conclusion we can draw from these statistics strikes

you with some force. If a Western

woman were to move to industrialized, irradiated Hiroshima, she would

stash her risk of contracting breast

cancer by half.

Obviously this is absurd. It seemed

obvious to me that some lifestyle factor not related to pollution,

urbanization or the environment is

seriously increasing the Western woman's chance of contracting breast

cancer.

I then discovered that whatever

causes the huge differences in breast cancer rates between oriental and

Western countries, it isn't genetic.

Scientific research showed that when Chinese or Japanese people

move to the West, within one or two

generations their rates of breast cancer approach those of their host

community.

The same thing happens when oriental

people adopt a completely Western lifestyle in Hong Kong. In fact,

the slang name for breast cancer in

China translates as 'Rich Woman's Disease'. This is because, in

China, only the better off can afford

to eat what is

termed 'Hong Kong food'.

The Chinese describe all Western

food, including everything from ice cream and chocolate bars to

spaghetti and feta cheese, as 'Hong

Kong food', because of its availability in the former British colony and

its scarcity, in the past, in

mainland China.

So it made perfect sense to me that

whatever was causing my breast cancer and the shockingly high

incidence in this country generally,

it was almost certainly something to do with our better-off,

middle-class, Western lifestyle.

There is an important point for men

here, too. I have observed in my research that much of the the data

about prostate cancer leads to

similar conclusions.

According to figures from the World

Health Organization, the number of men contracting prostate cancer

in rural China is negligible, only

0.5 men in every 100,000. In England, Scotland and Wales, however, this

figure is 70 times higher.

Like breast cancer, it is a

middle-class disease that primarily attacks the wealthier and higher

socio-economic groups - those that

can afford to eat rich foods.

I remember saying to my husband--

'Come on , you have just come back from China. What is it

about the Chinese way of life that is

so different. Why don't they get breast cancer?'

We decided to utilize our joint

scientific backgrounds and approach it logically. We examined scientific

data that pointed us in the general

direction of fats in diets.

Researchers had discovered in the

1980s that only l4 % of calories in the average Chinese diet were from

fat, compared to almost 36% in the

West. But the diet I had been living on for years before I contracted

breast cancer was very low in fat and

high in fibre.

Besides, I knew as a scientist that

fat intake in adults has not been shown to increase risk for breast

cancer in most investigations that

have followed large groups of women for up to a dozen years.

Then one day something rather special

happened. and I have worked together so closely over the

years that I am not sure which one of

us first said: 'The Chinese don't eat dairy produce!'

It is hard to explain to a

non-scientist the sudden mental and emotional 'buzz' you get when you

know you

have had an important insight.

It's as if you have had a lot of

pieces of a jigsaw in your mind, and suddenly, in a few seconds, they all

fall into place and the whole picture

is clear.

Suddenly I recalled how many Chinese

people were physically unable to tolerate milk, how the Chinese

people I had worked with had always

said that milk was only for babies, and how one of my close friends,

who is of Chinese origin, always

politely turned down the cheese course at dinner parties.

I knew of no Chinese people who lived

a traditional Chinese life who ever used cow or other dairy food to

feed their babies. The tradition was

to use a wet nurse but never, ever, dairy products.

Culturally, the Chinese find our

Western preoccupation with milk and milk products very strange. I

remember entertaining a large

delegation of Chinese scientists shortly after the ending of the Cultural

Revolution in the 1980s.

On advice from the Foreign Office, we

had asked the caterer to provide a pudding that contained a lot of

ice cream. After inquiring what the

pudding consisted of, all of the Chinese, including their interpreter,

politely but firmly refused to eat

it, and they could not be persuaded to change their minds. At the time we

were all delighted and ate extra portions!

Milk, I discovered, is one of the

most common causes of food allergies.

Over 70% of the world's population

are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, which has led nutritionists

to believe that this is the normal

condition for adults, not some sort of deficiency. Perhaps nature is trying

to tell us that we are eating the

wrong food.

Before I had breast cancer for the

first time, I had eaten a lot of dairy produce, such as skimmed milk,

low-fat cheese and yoghurt. I had

used it as my main source of protein. I also ate cheap but lean minced

beef, which I now realized was

probably often ground-up dairy cow.

In order to cope with the

chemotherapy I received for my fifth case of cancer, I had been eating organic

yoghurts as a way of helping my

digestive tract to recover and repopulate my gut with 'good' bacteria.

Recently, I discovered that way back

in 1989 yoghurt had been implicated in ovarian cancer. Dr

Cramer of Harvard University studied

hundreds of women with ovarian cancer, and had them record in

detail what they normally ate. I wish

I'd been made aware of his findings when he had first discovered

them.

Following 's and my insight into

the Chinese diet, I decided to give up not just yoghurt but all dairy

produce immediately. Cheese, butter,

milk and yoghurt and anything else that contained dairy produce -

it went down the sink or in the rubbish.

It is surprising how many products,

including commercial soups, biscuits and cakes, contain some form of

dairy produce. Even many proprietary

brands of margarine marketed as soya, sunflower or olive oil

spreads can contain dairy produce. I

therefore became an avid reader of the small print on food labels.

Up to this point, I had been

steadfastly measuring the progress of my fifth cancerous lump with callipers

and plotting the results. Despite all

the encouraging comments and positive feedback from my doctors

and nurses, my own precise

observations told me the bitter truth.

My first chemotherapy sessions had

produced no effect - the lump was still the same size.

Then I eliminated dairy products.

Within days, the lump started to shrink. About two weeks after my

second chemotherapy session and one

week after giving up dairy produce, the lump in my neck started to

itch. Then it began to soften and to

reduce in size. The line on the graph, which had shown no change,

was now pointing downwards as the

tumour got smaller and smaller.

And, very significantly, I noted that

instead of declining exponentially (a graceful curve) as cancer is

meant to do, the tumour's decrease in

size was plotted on a straight line heading off the bottom of the

graph, indicating a cure, not

suppression (or remission) of the tumour.

One Saturday afternoon after about

six weeks of excluding all dairy produce from my diet, I practised an

hour of meditation then felt for what

was left of the lump. I couldn't find it.

Yet I was very experienced at

detecting cancerous lumps - I had discovered all five cancers on my own. I

went downstairs and asked my husband

to feel my neck. He could not find any trace of the lump either.

On the following Thursday I was due

to be seen by my cancer specialist at Charing Cross Hospital in

London.

He examined me thoroughly, especially

my neck where the tumour had been. He was initially bemused

and then delighted as he said, " I

cannot find it.' None of my doctors, it appeared, had expected someone

with my type and stage of cancer

(which had clearly spread to the lymph system) to survive, let alone be

so hale and hearty.

My specialist was as overjoyed as I

was. When I first discussed my ideas with him he was understandably

skeptical. But I understand that he

now uses maps showing cancer mortality in China in his lectures, and

recommends a non-dairy diet to his

cancer patients.

I now believe that the link between

dairy produce and breast cancer is similar to the link between

smoking and lung cancer. I believe

that identifying the link between breast cancer and dairy produce, and

then developing a diet specifically

targeted at maintaining the health of my breast and hormone system,

cured me.

It was difficult for me, as it may be

for you, to accept that a substance as 'natural' as milk might have

such ominous health implications. But

I am a living proof that it works and, starting from tomorrow, I shall

reveal the secrets of my

revolutionary action plan.

Extracted from Your Life in Your

Hands, by Professor Jane Plant, to be published by Virgin on June 8 at

£16.99. © Professor Jane Plant, 2000.

_____

Jane Plant's conviction that dairy

products can cause cancer arises from the complex chemical makeup of

milk. All mature breast milk, from

humans or other mammals, is a medium for transporting hundreds of

chemical components.

It is a powerful biochemical

solution, designed specifically to provide for the individual needs of young

mammals of the same species. Jane

says: " It is not that cow's milk isn't a good food. It is a great food-

for baby cows. It is not intended by

nature for consumption by any species other than baby cows. It is

nutritionally different from human

breast milk, containing three times as much protein and far more

calcium.'

Breast milk, like cow's milk,

contains chemicals designed to play an important rote in the development of

young cattle. One of these, insulin

growth factor IGF-1,causes cells to divide and reproduce.

IGF-1 is biologically active in

humans, especially during puberty, when growth is rapid. In young girls it

stimulates breast tissue to grow and,

while its levels are high during pregnancy, the hormones prolactin

and oestrogen are also active,

enlarging breast tissue and increasing the production of milk ducts in

preparation for breast-feeding.

Though the concentration and

secretions of these hormones in the blood are small, they exert a powerful

effect on the body. All these

hormones are present in cow's milk. IGF-1 is identical in make-up,

whether in

human or cow's milk, but its levels

are naturally higher in cow's milk. It is also found in the meat of cows.

High levels of IGF-1 in humans are

thought to be a risk factor for breast and prostate cancer. A 1998

study of pre-menopausal women

revealed that those with the highest levels of IGF-1 in their bloodstream

ran almost three times the risk of

developing breast cancer compared with women who had low levels.

Among women younger than 50, the risk

was increased seven times.

Other studies have shown that high

circulating levels of IGF-1 In men are a strong indicator of prostate

cancer. Interestingly, recent

measures to improve milk yields have boosted IGF-1 levels in cows. Could

IGF-1 from milk and the meat of dairy

animals cause a build-up in humans, especially over a lifetime,

leading to inappropriate cell

division? Though we produce our own IGF-1, could it be that the extra

amounts we ingest from dairy produce

actually cause cancer?

Jane Plant already knew that one way

the high-profile drug tamoxifen, used in the treatment of breast

cancer, is thought to work by

lowering circulating levels of IGF-1.

IGF-1 is not destroyed by

pasteurization, but critics argue that it is destroyed by digestion

and rendered harmless. Jane believes

the main milk protein, casein, prevents this from happening and

that homogenization, which prevents

milk from separating into milk and cream, could further increase the

risk of cancer-promoting hormones and

other chemicals reaching the bloodstream.

She also believes there are other

chemicals in cow's milk that may be responsible for

sending muddied signals to adult

tissue. Could prolactin, released to stimulate milk production in cows,

have a similar effect on human breast

tissue, effectively triggering the same response and causing cells to

become confused, stressed and start

making mistakes in replicating their own DNA? Studies have

confirmed that prolactin promotes the

growth of prostate cancer cells in culture.

Another hormone, oestrogen,

considered one of the main risk factors for breast cancer, is present in milk

in minute quantities. But even low

levels of hormones are known to cause severe biological damage.

Microscopic quantities of oestrogen

in our rivers are powerful enough to cause the feminisation of many

male species of fish. While oestrogen

in milk may not pose a direct threat to tissues, it may stimulate the

expression of IGF-1, resulting in

long-term tumour growth.

Jane, who has found growing support

for her theories from cancer specialists, stresses

that she is not setting out to attack

more orthodox approaches. She intends her dietary programme to

complement the best therapies

available from conventional medicine, not to replace them.

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Pure But Deadly - Is Milk Potentially Fatal?

http://www.ostomyinternational.org/June2000/1124.html

Dairy-free diet and breast/colon cancer

IOA Archived Discussion Forum May 2000

Posted By Dungan on June 19,

2000 at 17:40:01:

The following review appeared last

week in the Irish Times.

Has anyone out there opinions or

experiences relevant to Prof Plant's approach? British scientist Jane

Plant, who believes a dairy-free diet

helped her recover from breast cancer, talks to Donovan

Tempted by a cream bun, you talk

yourself out of it with thoughts of all that unhealthy fat clogging up

your arteries. You opt for a low-fat

yoghurt instead, with skimmed milk in your tea, congratulating

yourself on your sensible

self-control. Think again. According to a ground-breaking new book about breast

cancer (which kills over 600 women in

Ireland annually), dairy products, whether low-fat or full cream,

should be off everyone's menu

overnight. (They are also culpable with regard to prostate cancer, so that

really means everyone).

Prof Jane Plant CBE, author of Your

Life in Your Hands, was diagnosed with breast cancer 13 years ago.

She was 42, a successful geochemist

(she is now chief scientist of the British Geological Survey), and led,

she thought, a healthy life. There

was no history of breast cancer in her family. She discovered that " only

five to 10 per cent of breast cancers

are the result of inherited genes, and the disease may not always

develop, even in those carrying the

mutated gene. " Bamboozled by jargon and frozen with panic, she fell

back on her scientific training to

try and figure out how she had developed the disease, and how best to

cure herself.

She went on the Bristol diet, she had

a mastectomy, she had radiotherapy, she had her ovaries irradiated

(to induce menopause and eliminate

oestrogen), she asked questions and did lots of research. To no

avail.

By the time of the cancer's fifth

recurrence (it spread into the lymph), she was given a course of

chemotherapy and three months to

live. She had an egg-sized tumour on the side of her neck.

Brainstorming one night with her

fellow scientist husband about why, in the West, one in 10 women get

breast cancer (one in 14 in Ireland),

while in China it's only one woman in 10,000, the pair came up with

the simple answer: Chinese people

don't eat dairy products.

Plant eliminated all dairy products

(including goat and sheep) from her diet. Six weeks later, the tumour

had disappeared.

When I meet her she is a

youthful-looking woman in her mid-fifties, quaffing mint tea and eating

a tuna

sandwich (no butter or mayonnaise).

She has stayed on her dairy-free diet and has remained clear of

cancer.

Giving up dairy products was only

part of a healthy regimen she had been following throughout her

cancer, including taking folic acid

and zinc supplements, drinking filtered water and never consuming

anything that had been packaged in

plastic (phthalates, harmful carcinogenic chemicals, leak from soft

plastic into food).

In spite of her best efforts it was

only after she gave up all dairy products that the cancer disappeared.

Sixty-three other women who had

breast cancer and who came to her for advice, also recovered after

giving up dairy products.

So how, I ask, can dairy products--

beloved of both the Irish and British alike, not to mention the

Americans whose diet is 40 per cent

dairy-- have such a lethal effect? " Milk is designed as the perfect

food for newborn animals. They can't

eat ordinary food, they are dependent on milk to keep development

and cell differentiation going. But

milk contains a chemical-- insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1 -- which

girls have naturally as teenagers

to help their breasts develop. This

chemical-- which is designed to stimulate cell growth-- can send the

wrong signal to adult breast tissue. "

She quotes studies in the US and

Canada in 1998 which found that pre-menopausal women with the

highest IGF-1 concentration in their

blood had a far higher risk of developing breast cancer (similar

studies have found a link between

IGF-1 and prostate cancer). The drug Tamoxifen, prescribed for women

with breast cancer, is thought to

work by reducing circulating IGF-1 levels.

" Over 70 per cent of the world's

population are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, " she observes.

" Lactose intolerance may be nature's

early warning system: perhaps nature is trying to tell us that we're

eating the wrong food. "

Homogenization apparently only enables cancer-producing chemicals to

reach the

bloodstream quicker.

Plant has done her homework:

" Epidemiological studies have indicated a positive correlation between

dairy product consumption and breast

cancer risk going back two decades. Studies have found an

increase in breast cancer risk among

women who consumed milk (especially whole milk) and/or cheese. "

In 1977 scientists examining the

incidence of breast cancer in Japan found " a significant increase in both

the consumption of dairy products and

the occurrence of breast cancer in urban areas " .

She quotes more research to suggest

that " free oestrogens " -- found in commercial pasteurized whole

cow's milk and in skimmed milk-- may

stimulate expression of IGF-1 resulting in " indirect long-term

tumour growth " .

She lists dioxins and other damaging

environmental chemicals, some of them carcinogenic, which are

often fat soluble and end up

" particularly concentrated " in milk.

As for the argument that we need

dairy products because they contain calcium, Plant quotes the World

Health Organization's finding that

countries which have low intakes of calcium do not have an increased

incidence of osteoporosis:

" Scientific studies into calcium absorption have shown that only 18 to

36 per

cent of the calcium in milk is taken

up by the body. "

Now that we're convinced, what should

we be eating instead? Plant recommends soya milk, herbal tea,

humous, tofu, nuts and seeds,

non-farmed fish, organic eggs and lean meat (not minced beef, which

tends to be dairy cow) and plenty of

fresh organic fruit and vegetables (in salads, juiced, or lightly

steamed).

But how can the average woman afford

the time and energy it takes to source and prepare such food?

" Your priority should be good food,

not glop, " she stresses. " Put organic food first. Your health is more

important than a new car. Anyway, I

don't find it too costly-- after all, I don't buy any processed food,

which is very expensive. "

Her husband and two children have no

problem following her diet. And although she travels a lot for her

job, she finds that she is able to

manage-- she includes many tips in her book about what to bring with

you on a trip (dried soya milk,

herbal tea bags, kelp tablets for iodine, etc).

She is about to start writing a new

book, a guide for busy women who want to stay healthy.

She advocates thorough and frequent

self-examination of your breasts, and, if you do develop breast

cancer, self-empowerment by working

with your doctor " as a partner,

not as a victim " .

She is not a fan of the Louise Hay

You Can Heal Your Life philosophy: " I do believe in positive thinking,

but I'm also a scientist and I wanted

a rational explanation. I have friends with diseases like MS who have

read Hay's books and feel guilty

because they can't adapt their mental attitude; or, if they have adapted,

and the disease doesn't go away, they

become distressed. "

Plant, who is an advocate of

acupuncture, has varying opinions of alternative therapies. She is suspicious

of aromatherapy, found visualization

didn't work, but took much comfort from cognitive therapy and

hypnotherapy (both of which helped

her to reduce the stress and anxiety caused by having cancer).

Overall, however, it was her

professional research as a geochemist into the links between disease and

trace elements (such as selenium) in

the environment in China and Korea that led to her insight about the

role of dairy produce in her cancer.

She finds the medical profession particularly shortsighted about the

influence of environmental factors--

such as pollution and industrialization-- on disease: " I think public

health has done a lot for the

elimination of infectious diseases, but looking at the environment and

nutrition could do the same for a lot

of degenerative diseases. "

Plant started writing Your Life in

Your Hands for her daughter Emma (now 25). Emma's teen years were

dominated by the fear that her mother

was going to die: " The book's original title was What I Want My

Daughter to Know, " recalls Plant.

" The 63 women with breast cancer who followed my diet and survived

their cancer encouraged me to publish

the book. I was reluctant at first-- I knew I'd get flak for it,

because science is an

adversarial process.

But morally, I felt if I had done the

research and I had the information, I should share it with others. Men

and women have the right to know what

I know, and to draw their own

conclusions. "

Your Life in Your Hands by Jane Plant

is published by Virgin at £16.99 in UK

Dungan,

Dublin

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Most of this kind of falderal actually refers to commercially-produced,

artificial hormone-laced, pasteurized milk from grain-fed cows that

have been treated with antibiotics. When it is limited to this truly

poison milk it is right on the money. The authors of such pieces,

however, extrapolate it to all milk and milk products, including that

from chemical-free grass-fed cows. Therein lies the error of their

thinking.

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Dear Patty, Pam, and Judy,

I am going to begin today, in writing you three, my work and writings

on cancer. It is the reason I joined this group. I will be writing this email as

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I have been working in the healing field for twenty years and have

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It is generally known that cancer does not usually develop in a

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There are really two aspects of human consciousness that comes into

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Treating tumours alone does not treat the condition that is

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of relapse. There is no medicine or alternative substance or magic bullet that

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HeartHealth provides the basis for this work and is completely different from

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to meet and confront the deepest aspects of self, and this we cannot usually do

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This work is extremely flexible and will mold and adapt itself to

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I believe I am offering a work that is very different from most of

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fundamentals of my work if requested until I get the site up and running. I hope

this offers a ray of hope or a option worth taking for many people who are open

and in need of such work.

Sincerely,

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

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Judy:

Thanks! I'll phone my oncologist and ask her about Taxotere.

Pam

> Dear Pam....I was so sorry to read of your situation.I'm sure you will get

many sending the " cure " . I just want to share something with you about what

happened to me. I did black salve (blood root) to a node in my neck and to some

skin mets on the chest when I felt desparate last spring-summer the inflammation

was awful and it fueled other cancer in the chest and neck to grow. At the worst

point I was finally in the hospital unable to even swallow water. I had pretty

much given up all hope. An Onocologist came to see me and said if you go on the

drug Taxotere your tumors will shrink in 7-10 days. It's not a cure but will buy

some time ( I think he said 70% of people respond). I had not agreed to have any

chemo since 85 when I had a few sessions and quit. I decided to go ahead just so

I could die at home and not in the hospital and maybe have time to say

goodbye,etc.

> & -10 days later I was eating normally and feeling like a new person. I am

wondering if you could ask for this drug if you haven't had it???? I am on my

way to Germany today to try an experimental treatment in an effort to help

myself and so I can get off the chemo as I know that's not an answer for the

long run. Perhaps you've already had Taxotere I don't know but it may help you

like it did me and above all Pam I wish you relief and God's help in getting

through this time. My onocol. is a breast cancer specialist and he told me this

is the best drug they have to help 4th stage people.I wish I could do more or

say something that would ease your heart in some way. Talk to God is the only

thing I ever found to ease my heart when I was in such pain and fear.

> Love, Judy Hoffman

>

>

>

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Dear Patty, Pam, and Judy,

I am going to begin today, in writing you three, my work and

writings on cancer. It is the reason I joined this group. I will be writing this

email as if I were writing a page for my site on the subject, so please, if some

parts of it sound like I am promoting this work of mine, understand that I am.

Obviously I believe in what I am doing and want to help people with it. In

thinking of your recent communications and needs it gives me greater motive to

write so in this I thank you for making this easier for me. Some of the material

at the very bottom of this email were already written but I include it to

complete the picture of what I am up to. The only limitation I have in offering

the following is that my wife is going to have a baby sometime in May, so for

about two months, starting then, I will not be free to travel to the center I

will be talking about below.

I have been working in the healing field for twenty years and have

developed Biogenic Medicine as well as several new lines of psychology;

specifically Listening Psychology and Communication Psychology, which are

imbedded in my book World Psychology, and a Psychology of the Heart, which is

expressed in another book called HeartHealth. I evolved Biogenic Medicine by

combining the best and deepest aspects of Chinese medicine with color

psychology. The systems combined give a tremendous ability to take diagnosis

down to the level of the person, to the cause in them and in their

consciousness. This does not mean that it excludes environmental factors like

toxins taken in from polluted air, water, drugs, cigarettes, intense

electric/magnetic fields, and very poor dietary habits that include many toxic

chemicals in them. But it does mean we have to look at the specific reasons how

and why a person has weakened their immune system to the point where cancer has

taken hold of the body.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cancer and Flor de Ouro

It is generally known that cancer does not usually develop in a

healthy body with intact defence and repair functions. Cancer is a result of a

damaged internal environment, which promotes cancer growth. This environment

develops over a period of time due to multiple causes and conditions, which

persist and remain chronically active even after removal of tumours by surgery,

radiation, and/or chemotherapy. These causes, that remain constant after the

fore named treatments, which do not touch upon the causes, are responsible for

the formation of new tumours, which occur after local treatment in approximately

every second cancer patient

In the work and diagnosis I do it is not enough to make

generalizations about these causes though we need to do that when writing about

cancer in general. There are general causes and conditions that lead to the

body's tendency to develop malignant tumours but there are also conditions that

are very specific to each individual. Each individual is unique in how they tie

their consciousness into a self-defeating knot. Meaning the cause is in them and

thus they must change themselves, some part of themselves at least to change the

cause. I am using consciousness in a very specific way here, but in short it is

that pure life force that is flowing into us twenty-four hours a day that is

being channelled through seven distinct levels or centres of awareness. There is

the physical level, social, intellectual, emotional, conceptual, intuitive and

imaginative levels of consciousness. So what we do with our imaginations for

example is very important for it is the creative level of awareness.

It has been said that cancer itself, on a very deep level, is

caused when our imaginations are out of tune with our real beings, our real

nature. In being out of tune or harmony, on this particular level, that we

create a separation between our real selves with our minds. The body copies or

mirrors this separation by creating or allowing the body to separate from

itself. This is what cancer is, a colony of cells running a muck reproducing at

a rapid rate operating in total opposition to the healthy colony of normal

cells. The separation cannot last for the healthy cells cannot deal with the

abnormal cells.

Smack in the centre of this situation is the operation of the immune

system whose job it is to kill off any foreign invasion, whether bacteria, virus

or cancer cell. The health of the immune system is the key; its operation is the

pivotal point for the start of cancer and for its elimination. Even in cancer

patients there remains billions of healthy cells but when the immune system is

repressed, it's key cells lose much of the virility, and this allows cancer

cells the environment to get a foot hold in the system. It is also the key to

cure because a totally operational immune system has the power to clean up just

about any mess. It will go after cancer cells and destroy them in a war that it

can win.

There are really two aspects of human consciousness that comes

into play in all of this, the heart, and the head, which just loves to separate

itself from its own heart. The heart (not the physical pump) represents our

being or vulnerable feeling nature that we are born with but forget all too

easily in modern day life. Yet it is the source of health and the fountain of

youth. We can only maintain contact with the heart and its life giving energies

when we are in tune with the truth of our life and this is hard for most people

to do. The heart is the key because its relative openness or closeness directly

affects the immune system.

Treating tumours alone does not treat the condition that is

producing it, the underlying cancer disease. Consequently, there is a high rate

of relapse. There is no medicine or alternative substance or magic bullet that

has the same power over the entire state of our health than our minds and

imaginations do when they are in tune with the life giving properties of our

hearts. Yet at Flor de Ouro (Golden Flower) Healing and Retreat Centre for

Radical Cure we employ herbal substances to clean and purify the intestines,

liver, gallbladder and kidneys, and this takes a heavy load off the immune

system, and in fact allows all systems to operate at higher levels. We also

utilize a master herbal substance called Ayahuasca, a legal substance in Brazil

that has been used for hundreds of years by native Indian tribes, It purges

body, mind and emotion and amplifies all the work we do.

In the interior we introduce and use the most sacred of all

plant substances, Ayahuasca, which will intensify all efforts toward change and

purification. Ayahuasca is a powerful holistic purgative medicine capable of

great healing and transformation and has been regarded as the supreme holistic

plant medicine throughout the western Amazon. It is claimed to cure a wide range

of physical, psychological, and spiritual maladies. One cancer user described

it, " I felt the presence of the plant racing throughout my body, peeking and

poking into every nook and cranny in search of something to work on, to

straighten out, to put back in order, to polish. " At Flor de Ouro we use it in

conjunction with therapy as it works its magic upon the body and being.

Therapy aiming to eliminate causal factors has to include all

aspects of our human consciousness and thus at Flor de Ouro we create the ideal

environment to tackle this all at the same time. Our work really offers an

adventure in change and a great chance for radical cure. The treatment of all

levels of consciousness simultaneously calls for a form of intensive short-term

therapy, meaning I engage each patient deeply on the level of heart and being.

HeartHealth provides the basis for this work and is completely different from

traditional psychotherapy. In this process, and when we use Ayahuasca, we have

to meet and confront the deepest aspects of self, and this we cannot usually do

alone.

This work is extremely flexible and will mold and adapt itself to

each persons specific situation and needs. It is through intense, open and deep

communication that we arrive to the root cause of disease and disharmony and it

is through the same that we open a path full of answers and solutions. We offer

the most complete program, one that you can begin to explore in the comfort of

your home with virtual communication.

Flor de Ouro also provides a totally natural diet, clean air and

water, and an environment far from the stresses and pressures of modern day

life. It is a place that for most people calls forth change because just to go

there implies a change.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

I believe I am offering a work that is very different from most of

what is available in the medical and healing world today. Any feedback on the

above or questions are welcome and I can send in sample chapters on the

fundamentals of my work if requested until I get the site up and running. I hope

this offers a ray of hope or a option worth taking for many people who are open

and in need of such work.

Sincerely,

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

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Hi Sircus,

I really enjoyed your email.

Thanks - Les Catterall

Sircus wrote:

>

> Dear Patty, Pam, and Judy,

>

> I am going to begin today, in writing you three, my work and

writings

> on cancer. It is the reason I joined this group. I will be writing this email

as

> if I were writing a page for my site on the subject, ....

> :

> :

>

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Judy:

The oncologist said that Taxotere was chemo. I don't take chemo, but thanks,

anyways.

Pam

> > Dear Pam....I was so sorry to read of your situation.I'm sure you will get

many sending the " cure " . I just want to share something with you about what

happened to me. I did black salve (blood root) to a node in my neck and to some

skin mets on the chest when I felt desparate last spring-summer the inflammation

was awful and it fueled other cancer in the chest and neck to grow. At the worst

point I was finally in the hospital unable to even swallow water. I had pretty

much given up all hope. An Onocologist came to see me and said if you go on the

drug Taxotere your tumors will shrink in 7-10 days. It's not a cure but will buy

some time ( I think he said 70% of people respond). I had not agreed to have any

chemo since 85 when I had a few sessions and quit. I decided to go ahead just so

I could die at home and not in the hospital and maybe have time to say

goodbye,etc.

> > & -10 days later I was eating normally and feeling like a new person. I am

wondering if you could ask for this drug if you haven't had it???? I am on my

way to Germany today to try an experimental treatment in an effort to help

myself and so I can get off the chemo as I know that's not an answer for the

long run. Perhaps you've already had Taxotere I don't know but it may help you

like it did me and above all Pam I wish you relief and God's help in getting

through this time. My onocol. is a breast cancer specialist and he told me this

is the best drug they have to help 4th stage people.I wish I could do more or

say something that would ease your heart in some way. Talk to God is the only

thing I ever found to ease my heart when I was in such pain and fear.

> > Love, Judy Hoffman

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Sircus,

I really enjoyed your email.

Thanks Les, you sound like one of my old friends from college, they used to

always call me by my last name. Makes me laugh just to think of it! :-)))

Mark

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HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER

> USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES

No I have not, my question to you would be about your vulnerability, the

soft underbelly of your being, meaning your tears, your feelings, and where

are they and where they have been especially the year or so leading up to

your cancer. If you would like to respond I will in return. If you would

like to know something more about what I am talking about go to my site and

click on the link from the first page called The Heart is The Vulnerability

of Being. Or go to this site also, I just found it.

http://www.coping.org/growth/vulner.htm

Mark Sircus Ac., OMD

http://www.worldpsychology.net

[ ] Breast Cancer

> I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I have

> been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there

> and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have

> confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour approx

> 2 centimetres. - I would appreciate an urgent reply as

> consultant would now like me to go conventional.

>

> many thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

I have been successfully using Dr. 's LATEST methods for almost

4 years to treat my breast cancer, after I refused to have chemo,

radiation and tamoxifen.

Could you tell me what book(s) of Dr. 's you are using and give

me some idea of the extent of your program...for instance, did you

have your mercury amalgams, root canals etc. removed?

Could you describe the zapping you are doing, and where did you get

your zapper?

I can send you a lot of information, but so as not to overwhelm, if I

have some idea of where you are I can narrow things down.

> I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I

have

> been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there

> and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have

> confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour

approx

> 2 centimetres. HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER

> USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES - I would appreciate an urgent reply as

> consultant would now like me to go conventional.

>

> many thanks.

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-suzanne summers just cured her cancer with mistletoe injections,

(Iscodor). German and swiss Drs are familiar with them. I like oral

mistletoe.

-- In , " cursingblackjellybaby "

<cursingblackjellybaby@y...> wrote:

> I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I

have

> been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there

> and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have

> confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour

approx

> 2 centimetres. HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER

> USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES - I would appreciate an urgent reply as

> consultant would now like me to go conventional.

>

> many thanks.

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Correction: Suzanne Somers, supplemented her surgery and radiation

therepy with Iscador, she didn't solely use Iscador to cure her

cancer.

Virginia

> > I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I

> have

> > been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there

> > and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have

> > confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour

> approx

> > 2 centimetres. HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER

> > USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES - I would appreciate an urgent reply

as

> > consultant would now like me to go conventional.

> >

> > many thanks.

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I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing

a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have

been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those.

I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I

treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am

also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without

surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

Thanks!

Dolores

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> I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been

> doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables.

> I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more

> of those.

Consider the following diet additions:

Pancreatic Enzymes (protein digestion) http://www.drkelley.com/CANLIVER55.html

- As Per Kelley, the idea that one's pancrease is damaged (probably

due to

fluke parasites-Hulda ) and is no longer able to produce

enough

pancreatic enzyme to keep the body going. Addition of pancreatic

enzyme would help reduce the load on pancreous, and allow some

extra

enzymes into the bloodstream to de-cloak the cancer.

FlaxSeed Oil - As per many sources too numerous to mention. Our diet lacks in

omega 3

fatty acids. Omega fatty acids is the final part of the

humanization

process for protein. In otherwords, we can eat all the protein

we like,

turn our bodies into an acidic cancer haven from protein

digestion.

Fill out bodies full of amino acids, and still be starving for

protein due

to not enough Omega 3 fatty acids.

The above two items will get you protein, which is needed to fight cancer or

any disease.

Now we need to bond the protein together so it is stong, healthy. You know

what happens

if you lack vitamin C, your protein falls apart and you bleed to death, that's

scurvy.

MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) - The other half of vitamin C

This helps to further bond proteins together. This will make

internal

body membranes thin, flexable, more permiable, and stronger.

Also

helps to alkalize the body and helps body to detoxify as MSM

is also

a foreign protein scavenger. If you get bitten by some

unknown snake,

the hospital will inject with with MSM to de-activate the

snake venom.

> I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida.

> I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics.

> I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

The above is also good. Ensure the VitalZyme enzymes has a good does of

pancreatic enzymes.

> I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without

> surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

There is quite a few people that have been helped using the Budwig Protocols.

This is the combination of cottage cheese (similar in function to MSM) and

flaxseed oil. Budwig found that failure to stay on the diet for 5 years

resulted in cancer relapse that was unstoppable.

To me it would appear that the 5 years would allow the pancrease to heal

itself. But if you stop too soon, the Pancreatic flukes and Live Flukes would

continue to work on the pancrease until there was no more pancreatic enzymes

able to be produced. This would then allow cancer to reign supreme.

Regards,

---- Robb -----

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hi dolores

ditch the meat unless it is organic GRASS FED beef or bison. eat LOTS of

cruciferous veggies and green salads ( organic where possible) . Add indole 3

carbinol ( found in the cruciferous veggies)...at least 200mg 3x/day. Vitamin D

4000iu /day ( a BIG dose ..you need to have this monitored) vitamin A 100000

/day ( another big dose ..same caveat)..If estrogen receptor negative add about

1600 iu vitain E succinate( mixed tocopherols); CoQ10 about 200mg 2-3 x/day

;Congugated linolenic acid 5000mg/day;curcumin about 2500mg/day;;selenium

200mcg 2-3/day ( another big dose!). Use ground flax on your salad and in raw

dips.. Eat as clean and raw as possible. AVOID ALL sugar and white flour and

refined products and hydrogenated fats and oils. BE strict here!

get plenty of sunshine , fresh air and mild aerobic excercise ( walk don't

run)...quit watching the news, have more fun rent a few comedies and

LAUGH..have fun developing new raw food recipes from salad dressings to raw

food fruit pies etc....Don't talk to anyone who is depressing...

any way i hope this helps!

( oh yea some have found that 2-20 mg of melatonin at night is helpful; i

usually a bit suspicious of using these hormones..but check it out)

jeff

[ ] Re: breast cancer

I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been

doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I

have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of

those.

I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida.

I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I

am also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without

surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

Thanks!

Dolores

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oh dolores ...i forgot to mention the Vitalzymes....if you are following the

program ... how many are you taking ? you must take a lot of them....say

15 3 x/day on an empty stomach...this runs into $

jeff

[ ] Re: breast cancer

I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been

doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I

have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of

those.

I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida.

I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I

am also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without

surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

Thanks!

Dolores

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Hi Dolores – I second Jeff’s suggestion of Indol 3 Carbinol – though I would

suggest 200 mg 4x/day (2 caps in the morning and two at night before bed).

Add 500 mg per day of calcium d’glucarate. And definitely eat organic!!

Once you start organic, you will not want to eat anything else.

Best to you,

Re: [ ] Re: breast cancer

hi dolores

ditch the meat unless it is organic GRASS FED beef or bison. eat LOTS of

cruciferous veggies and green salads ( organic where possible) . Add indole

3 carbinol ( found in the cruciferous veggies)...at least 200mg 3x/day.

Vitamin D 4000iu /day ( a BIG dose ..you need to have this monitored)

vitamin A 100000 /day ( another big dose ..same caveat)..If estrogen

receptor negative add about 1600 iu vitain E succinate( mixed tocopherols);

CoQ10 about 200mg 2-3 x/day ;Congugated linolenic acid 5000mg/day;curcumin

about 2500mg/day;;selenium 200mcg 2-3/day ( another big dose!). Use ground

flax on your salad and in raw dips.. Eat as clean and raw as possible. AVOID

ALL sugar and white flour and refined products and hydrogenated fats and

oils. BE strict here!

get plenty of sunshine , fresh air and mild aerobic excercise ( walk don't

run)...quit watching the news, have more fun rent a few comedies and

LAUGH..have fun developing new raw food recipes from salad dressings to raw

food fruit pies etc....Don't talk to anyone who is depressing...

any way i hope this helps!

( oh yea some have found that 2-20 mg of melatonin at night is helpful; i

usually a bit suspicious of using these hormones..but check it out)

jeff

[ ] Re: breast cancer

I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been

doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables.

I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having

more of those.

I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for

candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed

probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer

without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

Thanks!

Dolores

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Jeff – could you tell me more about the Vitalzymes. I found the website

www.Klaire.com <http://www.klaire.com/> that sells Vital-Zymes Forte

(Active Plant Enzymes) - caps

<http://www.klaire.com/product_details.php?product_id=37> . Are these those

you refer to? Are these part of ’s old program?

does produce his own pancreatic enzymes out in Texas.

Please tell me more.

Thanks,

Re: [ ] Re: breast cancer

oh dolores ...i forgot to mention the Vitalzymes....if you are following the

program ... how many are you taking ? you must take a lot of

them....say 15 3 x/day on an empty stomach...this runs into $

jeff

[ ] Re: breast cancer

I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been

doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables.

I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having

more of those.

I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for

candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed

probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer

without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

Thanks!

Dolores

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dolores..i agree with about the Calcium d- glucarate...good idea

jeff

[ ] Re: breast cancer

I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been

doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables.

I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having

more of those.

I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for

candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed

probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer

without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

Thanks!

Dolores

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linda

the vitalzyme are not the vital-zyme forte from Klaire labs. Vitalzyme is made

by World Nutrition in arizona check out http://www.vitalzym.com/ or

http://www.prohealthsolutions.com/vitalzym-faq.html for more info. they are very

similar to Wobenzyme a popular anti inflamatory enzyme preparation from europe.

You could also use Enymatic therapy's Mega zyme. or just straight pancreatic

enzymes a la the protocol

[ ] Re: breast cancer

I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been

doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables.

I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having

more of those.

I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for

candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed

probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes.

I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer

without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was.

Thanks!

Dolores

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Don't overlook I3C and DIM for hormonal related cancers.

Art

billsf9c <OOWONBS@...> wrote:

> I was looking for some info on Inflammatory breast cancer.

> I was diagnosed yesterday with it.The doctor put in a port for

chemo. This is a rare and fast moving cancer so I decided to have the

chemo.

> Email me or post if you want to.

> Thanls

>

Sorry, .

I have little to offer but here it is:

Here is an ad that popped up In ps, after I posted this and it

faield, (This is a retype.) Maybe it will help someone.

http://www.procrit.com/oncology/side_effects/helpful_hints.html?

ref=2553

Ok, I read/post here rarely, but saved the list for future ref.

The future is now, now. A fellow list owner in ps has a wife

with IBC.

is this list's Home Page.

If you click it, on the left will be " Messages. "

Clicking that opens the archives, which are searchable.

See a Search window on the top right, enter

Inflammatory Breast

Leave off, " cancer. "

The search engine does not allow + or & and fancy searches or

exclusions, and " cancer " might retrieve nearly every post.

As a listowner elsewhere I and 2500 others watch YahOops. The search

turned up about 6 replies, and a retry " a minute later, " got more.

This can be normal. It seems to limit time for a seacrh, once in a

while. Still, at a glance there was little info, if the titles were

indicative.

Your decision seems sound. I wonder, if due to breast being so

lymphatic, if this is a migration issue, calling for an overall chemo

as well.. Chemo seems to be a general killer, and normal cells just a

little more resiliant. I would also use a multi tiered approach.

Dark skinned berries like blueberries, shittake mushrooms, limited

caloric diet, etc.

You must know that the folks who started the list, is (in Tempe

AZ???) a group who use a multi-facted approach. For IBC, this seems

wise.

If you come across somethimg and have the energy, I'd like to pass it

along to the listopwner's wife.

Thabks!

God Bless Y'all!!

BillSF9c

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also co Q 10 and calcium D glucarate and plain old vitamin c in mega doses

jeff

[ ] Re: breast cancer

Don't overlook I3C and DIM for hormonal related cancers.

Art

billsf9c <OOWONBS@...> wrote:

> I was looking for some info on Inflammatory breast cancer.

> I was diagnosed yesterday with it.The doctor put in a port for

chemo. This is a rare and fast moving cancer so I decided to have the

chemo.

> Email me or post if you want to.

> Thanls

>

Sorry, .

I have little to offer but here it is:

Here is an ad that popped up In ps, after I posted this and it

faield, (This is a retype.) Maybe it will help someone.

http://www.procrit.com/oncology/side_effects/helpful_hints.html?

ref=2553

Ok, I read/post here rarely, but saved the list for future ref.

The future is now, now. A fellow list owner in ps has a wife

with IBC.

is this list's Home Page.

If you click it, on the left will be " Messages. "

Clicking that opens the archives, which are searchable.

See a Search window on the top right, enter

Inflammatory Breast

Leave off, " cancer. "

The search engine does not allow + or & and fancy searches or

exclusions, and " cancer " might retrieve nearly every post.

As a listowner elsewhere I and 2500 others watch YahOops. The search

turned up about 6 replies, and a retry " a minute later, " got more.

This can be normal. It seems to limit time for a seacrh, once in a

while. Still, at a glance there was little info, if the titles were

indicative.

Your decision seems sound. I wonder, if due to breast being so

lymphatic, if this is a migration issue, calling for an overall chemo

as well.. Chemo seems to be a general killer, and normal cells just a

little more resiliant. I would also use a multi tiered approach.

Dark skinned berries like blueberries, shittake mushrooms, limited

caloric diet, etc.

You must know that the folks who started the list, is (in Tempe

AZ???) a group who use a multi-facted approach. For IBC, this seems

wise.

If you come across somethimg and have the energy, I'd like to pass it

along to the listopwner's wife.

Thabks!

God Bless Y'all!!

BillSF9c

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In various studies around the world Indole 3 carbinol (I3C) has proven very

helpful in a hormonal related cancer such as breast, ovarian, prostate etc. Some

people will use a related product called Diindolylmethane (DIM). Both are

extracted from vegetable sources. They seem to keep the so-called bad estrogens

under control.

Art B.

ww.alternative-cancer.net

Sharon <sharner@...> wrote:

I have a question for Stage IV breast cancer patients. My treatment on

Taxotere has failed after 3 months. I have mets to the right lung with

mediastinal and hilar involvement, which after Taxotere, has increased in

size and number, but I have no symptoms. Could someone give me some advice

on what has worked for them? I am going to the cancer this morning but also

scheduled a 2nd opinion in a very large facility in New York to get their

views as well.

Thanks in advance....Sharon

-- Re: [ ] RE: Question about honey?

SNIP:

So a small amount of sugar with an overall low-glycemic meal is OK, but

bread and

honey for breakfast is definitely out

Before the dx of BC in 1997, I didn't have a sweet tooth. I have currently

been NED since 2001, BUT I have this very bothersome sweet tooth that I do

indulge lots of times. Wondering what has caused the appearance of the

sweet tooth and WHY now? any suggestions?

Hugs,

Becky in Texas

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