Guest guest Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 This was posted at another list I read. -- The following article was found at http://www.rense.com/general35/av.htm and I found it so interesting that I am repeating it here. Has anyone else tried this? Quote: Cure Breast Cancer By Avoiding All Milk Products By Prof. Jane Plant, PhD, CBE http://www.litopia.com/jplant/bio.htm The Daily Mail - UK (5-27-00) 2-26-3 Why I believe that giving up milk is the key to beating breast cancer... Professor Jane Plant is a wife, a mother, and widely respected scientist, who was made a CBE for her work in geochemistry. When she was struck by breast cancer in 1987 at the age of 42, her happy and productive existence seemed destined to fall apart. But despite the disease recurring a further four times, Jane refused to give in. As she describes in an inspiring new book, [Your Life In Your Hands] serialised by the Mail this week, she devised a revolutionary diet and lifestyle programme that she believes saved her life and can cut the chances of other women falling prey to the disease. Her theory remains a controversial one - but every woman should read it and make up her own mind. Today, she explains her personal breakthrough... I had no alternative but to die or to try to find a cure for myself. I am a scientist - surely there was a rational explanation for this cruel illness that affects one in 12 women in the UK? I had suffered the loss of one breast, and undergone radiotherapy. I was now receiving painful chemotherapy, and had been seen by some of the country's most eminent specialists. But, deep down, I felt certain I was facing death. I had a loving husband, a beautiful home and two young children to care for. I desperately wanted to live. Fortunately, this desire drove me to unearth the facts, some of which were known only to a handful of scientists at the time. Anyone who has come into contact with breast cancer will know that certain risk factors - such as increasing age, early onset of womanhood, late onset of menopause and a family history of breast cancer - are completely out of our control. But there are many risk factors, which we can control easily. These 'controllable' risk factors readily translate into simple changes that we can all make in our day-to-day lives to help prevent or treat breast cancer. My message is that even advanced breast cancer can be overcome because I have done it. The first clue to understanding what was promoting my breast cancer came when my husband , who was also a scientist, arrived back from working in China while I was being plugged in for a chemotherapy session. He had brought with him cards and letters, as well as some amazing herbal suppositories, sent by my friends and science colleagues in China. The suppositories were sent to me as a cure for breast cancer. Despite the awfulness of the situation, we both had a good belly laugh, and I remember saying that this was the treatment for breast cancer in China, then it was little wonder that Chinese women avoided getting the disease. Those words echoed in my mind. Why didn't Chinese women get breast cancer? I had collaborated once with Chinese colleagues on a study of links between soil chemistry and disease, and I remembered some of the statistics. The disease was virtually non-existent throughout the whole country. Only one in 10,000 women in China will die from it, compared to that terrible figure of one in 12 in Britain and the even grimmer average of one in 10 across most Western countries. It is not just a matter of China being a more rural country, with less urban pollution. In highly urbanised Hong Kong, the rate rises to 34 women in every 10,000 but still puts the West to shame. The Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have similar rates. And remember, both cities were attacked with nuclear weapons, so in addition to the usual pollution-related cancers, one would also expect to find some radiation-related cases, too. The conclusion we can draw from these statistics strikes you with some force. If a Western woman were to move to industrialized, irradiated Hiroshima, she would stash her risk of contracting breast cancer by half. Obviously this is absurd. It seemed obvious to me that some lifestyle factor not related to pollution, urbanization or the environment is seriously increasing the Western woman's chance of contracting breast cancer. I then discovered that whatever causes the huge differences in breast cancer rates between oriental and Western countries, it isn't genetic. Scientific research showed that when Chinese or Japanese people move to the West, within one or two generations their rates of breast cancer approach those of their host community. The same thing happens when oriental people adopt a completely Western lifestyle in Hong Kong. In fact, the slang name for breast cancer in China translates as 'Rich Woman's Disease'. This is because, in China, only the better off can afford to eat what is termed 'Hong Kong food'. The Chinese describe all Western food, including everything from ice cream and chocolate bars to spaghetti and feta cheese, as 'Hong Kong food', because of its availability in the former British colony and its scarcity, in the past, in mainland China. So it made perfect sense to me that whatever was causing my breast cancer and the shockingly high incidence in this country generally, it was almost certainly something to do with our better-off, middle-class, Western lifestyle. There is an important point for men here, too. I have observed in my research that much of the the data about prostate cancer leads to similar conclusions. According to figures from the World Health Organization, the number of men contracting prostate cancer in rural China is negligible, only 0.5 men in every 100,000. In England, Scotland and Wales, however, this figure is 70 times higher. Like breast cancer, it is a middle-class disease that primarily attacks the wealthier and higher socio-economic groups - those that can afford to eat rich foods. I remember saying to my husband-- 'Come on , you have just come back from China. What is it about the Chinese way of life that is so different. Why don't they get breast cancer?' We decided to utilize our joint scientific backgrounds and approach it logically. We examined scientific data that pointed us in the general direction of fats in diets. Researchers had discovered in the 1980s that only l4 % of calories in the average Chinese diet were from fat, compared to almost 36% in the West. But the diet I had been living on for years before I contracted breast cancer was very low in fat and high in fibre. Besides, I knew as a scientist that fat intake in adults has not been shown to increase risk for breast cancer in most investigations that have followed large groups of women for up to a dozen years. Then one day something rather special happened. and I have worked together so closely over the years that I am not sure which one of us first said: 'The Chinese don't eat dairy produce!' It is hard to explain to a non-scientist the sudden mental and emotional 'buzz' you get when you know you have had an important insight. It's as if you have had a lot of pieces of a jigsaw in your mind, and suddenly, in a few seconds, they all fall into place and the whole picture is clear. Suddenly I recalled how many Chinese people were physically unable to tolerate milk, how the Chinese people I had worked with had always said that milk was only for babies, and how one of my close friends, who is of Chinese origin, always politely turned down the cheese course at dinner parties. I knew of no Chinese people who lived a traditional Chinese life who ever used cow or other dairy food to feed their babies. The tradition was to use a wet nurse but never, ever, dairy products. Culturally, the Chinese find our Western preoccupation with milk and milk products very strange. I remember entertaining a large delegation of Chinese scientists shortly after the ending of the Cultural Revolution in the 1980s. On advice from the Foreign Office, we had asked the caterer to provide a pudding that contained a lot of ice cream. After inquiring what the pudding consisted of, all of the Chinese, including their interpreter, politely but firmly refused to eat it, and they could not be persuaded to change their minds. At the time we were all delighted and ate extra portions! Milk, I discovered, is one of the most common causes of food allergies. Over 70% of the world's population are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, which has led nutritionists to believe that this is the normal condition for adults, not some sort of deficiency. Perhaps nature is trying to tell us that we are eating the wrong food. Before I had breast cancer for the first time, I had eaten a lot of dairy produce, such as skimmed milk, low-fat cheese and yoghurt. I had used it as my main source of protein. I also ate cheap but lean minced beef, which I now realized was probably often ground-up dairy cow. In order to cope with the chemotherapy I received for my fifth case of cancer, I had been eating organic yoghurts as a way of helping my digestive tract to recover and repopulate my gut with 'good' bacteria. Recently, I discovered that way back in 1989 yoghurt had been implicated in ovarian cancer. Dr Cramer of Harvard University studied hundreds of women with ovarian cancer, and had them record in detail what they normally ate. I wish I'd been made aware of his findings when he had first discovered them. Following 's and my insight into the Chinese diet, I decided to give up not just yoghurt but all dairy produce immediately. Cheese, butter, milk and yoghurt and anything else that contained dairy produce - it went down the sink or in the rubbish. It is surprising how many products, including commercial soups, biscuits and cakes, contain some form of dairy produce. Even many proprietary brands of margarine marketed as soya, sunflower or olive oil spreads can contain dairy produce. I therefore became an avid reader of the small print on food labels. Up to this point, I had been steadfastly measuring the progress of my fifth cancerous lump with callipers and plotting the results. Despite all the encouraging comments and positive feedback from my doctors and nurses, my own precise observations told me the bitter truth. My first chemotherapy sessions had produced no effect - the lump was still the same size. Then I eliminated dairy products. Within days, the lump started to shrink. About two weeks after my second chemotherapy session and one week after giving up dairy produce, the lump in my neck started to itch. Then it began to soften and to reduce in size. The line on the graph, which had shown no change, was now pointing downwards as the tumour got smaller and smaller. And, very significantly, I noted that instead of declining exponentially (a graceful curve) as cancer is meant to do, the tumour's decrease in size was plotted on a straight line heading off the bottom of the graph, indicating a cure, not suppression (or remission) of the tumour. One Saturday afternoon after about six weeks of excluding all dairy produce from my diet, I practised an hour of meditation then felt for what was left of the lump. I couldn't find it. Yet I was very experienced at detecting cancerous lumps - I had discovered all five cancers on my own. I went downstairs and asked my husband to feel my neck. He could not find any trace of the lump either. On the following Thursday I was due to be seen by my cancer specialist at Charing Cross Hospital in London. He examined me thoroughly, especially my neck where the tumour had been. He was initially bemused and then delighted as he said, " I cannot find it.' None of my doctors, it appeared, had expected someone with my type and stage of cancer (which had clearly spread to the lymph system) to survive, let alone be so hale and hearty. My specialist was as overjoyed as I was. When I first discussed my ideas with him he was understandably skeptical. But I understand that he now uses maps showing cancer mortality in China in his lectures, and recommends a non-dairy diet to his cancer patients. I now believe that the link between dairy produce and breast cancer is similar to the link between smoking and lung cancer. I believe that identifying the link between breast cancer and dairy produce, and then developing a diet specifically targeted at maintaining the health of my breast and hormone system, cured me. It was difficult for me, as it may be for you, to accept that a substance as 'natural' as milk might have such ominous health implications. But I am a living proof that it works and, starting from tomorrow, I shall reveal the secrets of my revolutionary action plan. Extracted from Your Life in Your Hands, by Professor Jane Plant, to be published by Virgin on June 8 at £16.99. © Professor Jane Plant, 2000. _____ Jane Plant's conviction that dairy products can cause cancer arises from the complex chemical makeup of milk. All mature breast milk, from humans or other mammals, is a medium for transporting hundreds of chemical components. It is a powerful biochemical solution, designed specifically to provide for the individual needs of young mammals of the same species. Jane says: " It is not that cow's milk isn't a good food. It is a great food- for baby cows. It is not intended by nature for consumption by any species other than baby cows. It is nutritionally different from human breast milk, containing three times as much protein and far more calcium.' Breast milk, like cow's milk, contains chemicals designed to play an important rote in the development of young cattle. One of these, insulin growth factor IGF-1,causes cells to divide and reproduce. IGF-1 is biologically active in humans, especially during puberty, when growth is rapid. In young girls it stimulates breast tissue to grow and, while its levels are high during pregnancy, the hormones prolactin and oestrogen are also active, enlarging breast tissue and increasing the production of milk ducts in preparation for breast-feeding. Though the concentration and secretions of these hormones in the blood are small, they exert a powerful effect on the body. All these hormones are present in cow's milk. IGF-1 is identical in make-up, whether in human or cow's milk, but its levels are naturally higher in cow's milk. It is also found in the meat of cows. High levels of IGF-1 in humans are thought to be a risk factor for breast and prostate cancer. A 1998 study of pre-menopausal women revealed that those with the highest levels of IGF-1 in their bloodstream ran almost three times the risk of developing breast cancer compared with women who had low levels. Among women younger than 50, the risk was increased seven times. Other studies have shown that high circulating levels of IGF-1 In men are a strong indicator of prostate cancer. Interestingly, recent measures to improve milk yields have boosted IGF-1 levels in cows. Could IGF-1 from milk and the meat of dairy animals cause a build-up in humans, especially over a lifetime, leading to inappropriate cell division? Though we produce our own IGF-1, could it be that the extra amounts we ingest from dairy produce actually cause cancer? Jane Plant already knew that one way the high-profile drug tamoxifen, used in the treatment of breast cancer, is thought to work by lowering circulating levels of IGF-1. IGF-1 is not destroyed by pasteurization, but critics argue that it is destroyed by digestion and rendered harmless. Jane believes the main milk protein, casein, prevents this from happening and that homogenization, which prevents milk from separating into milk and cream, could further increase the risk of cancer-promoting hormones and other chemicals reaching the bloodstream. She also believes there are other chemicals in cow's milk that may be responsible for sending muddied signals to adult tissue. Could prolactin, released to stimulate milk production in cows, have a similar effect on human breast tissue, effectively triggering the same response and causing cells to become confused, stressed and start making mistakes in replicating their own DNA? Studies have confirmed that prolactin promotes the growth of prostate cancer cells in culture. Another hormone, oestrogen, considered one of the main risk factors for breast cancer, is present in milk in minute quantities. But even low levels of hormones are known to cause severe biological damage. Microscopic quantities of oestrogen in our rivers are powerful enough to cause the feminisation of many male species of fish. While oestrogen in milk may not pose a direct threat to tissues, it may stimulate the expression of IGF-1, resulting in long-term tumour growth. Jane, who has found growing support for her theories from cancer specialists, stresses that she is not setting out to attack more orthodox approaches. She intends her dietary programme to complement the best therapies available from conventional medicine, not to replace them. _____ Pure But Deadly - Is Milk Potentially Fatal? http://www.ostomyinternational.org/June2000/1124.html Dairy-free diet and breast/colon cancer IOA Archived Discussion Forum May 2000 Posted By Dungan on June 19, 2000 at 17:40:01: The following review appeared last week in the Irish Times. Has anyone out there opinions or experiences relevant to Prof Plant's approach? British scientist Jane Plant, who believes a dairy-free diet helped her recover from breast cancer, talks to Donovan Tempted by a cream bun, you talk yourself out of it with thoughts of all that unhealthy fat clogging up your arteries. You opt for a low-fat yoghurt instead, with skimmed milk in your tea, congratulating yourself on your sensible self-control. Think again. According to a ground-breaking new book about breast cancer (which kills over 600 women in Ireland annually), dairy products, whether low-fat or full cream, should be off everyone's menu overnight. (They are also culpable with regard to prostate cancer, so that really means everyone). Prof Jane Plant CBE, author of Your Life in Your Hands, was diagnosed with breast cancer 13 years ago. She was 42, a successful geochemist (she is now chief scientist of the British Geological Survey), and led, she thought, a healthy life. There was no history of breast cancer in her family. She discovered that " only five to 10 per cent of breast cancers are the result of inherited genes, and the disease may not always develop, even in those carrying the mutated gene. " Bamboozled by jargon and frozen with panic, she fell back on her scientific training to try and figure out how she had developed the disease, and how best to cure herself. She went on the Bristol diet, she had a mastectomy, she had radiotherapy, she had her ovaries irradiated (to induce menopause and eliminate oestrogen), she asked questions and did lots of research. To no avail. By the time of the cancer's fifth recurrence (it spread into the lymph), she was given a course of chemotherapy and three months to live. She had an egg-sized tumour on the side of her neck. Brainstorming one night with her fellow scientist husband about why, in the West, one in 10 women get breast cancer (one in 14 in Ireland), while in China it's only one woman in 10,000, the pair came up with the simple answer: Chinese people don't eat dairy products. Plant eliminated all dairy products (including goat and sheep) from her diet. Six weeks later, the tumour had disappeared. When I meet her she is a youthful-looking woman in her mid-fifties, quaffing mint tea and eating a tuna sandwich (no butter or mayonnaise). She has stayed on her dairy-free diet and has remained clear of cancer. Giving up dairy products was only part of a healthy regimen she had been following throughout her cancer, including taking folic acid and zinc supplements, drinking filtered water and never consuming anything that had been packaged in plastic (phthalates, harmful carcinogenic chemicals, leak from soft plastic into food). In spite of her best efforts it was only after she gave up all dairy products that the cancer disappeared. Sixty-three other women who had breast cancer and who came to her for advice, also recovered after giving up dairy products. So how, I ask, can dairy products-- beloved of both the Irish and British alike, not to mention the Americans whose diet is 40 per cent dairy-- have such a lethal effect? " Milk is designed as the perfect food for newborn animals. They can't eat ordinary food, they are dependent on milk to keep development and cell differentiation going. But milk contains a chemical-- insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1 -- which girls have naturally as teenagers to help their breasts develop. This chemical-- which is designed to stimulate cell growth-- can send the wrong signal to adult breast tissue. " She quotes studies in the US and Canada in 1998 which found that pre-menopausal women with the highest IGF-1 concentration in their blood had a far higher risk of developing breast cancer (similar studies have found a link between IGF-1 and prostate cancer). The drug Tamoxifen, prescribed for women with breast cancer, is thought to work by reducing circulating IGF-1 levels. " Over 70 per cent of the world's population are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, " she observes. " Lactose intolerance may be nature's early warning system: perhaps nature is trying to tell us that we're eating the wrong food. " Homogenization apparently only enables cancer-producing chemicals to reach the bloodstream quicker. Plant has done her homework: " Epidemiological studies have indicated a positive correlation between dairy product consumption and breast cancer risk going back two decades. Studies have found an increase in breast cancer risk among women who consumed milk (especially whole milk) and/or cheese. " In 1977 scientists examining the incidence of breast cancer in Japan found " a significant increase in both the consumption of dairy products and the occurrence of breast cancer in urban areas " . She quotes more research to suggest that " free oestrogens " -- found in commercial pasteurized whole cow's milk and in skimmed milk-- may stimulate expression of IGF-1 resulting in " indirect long-term tumour growth " . She lists dioxins and other damaging environmental chemicals, some of them carcinogenic, which are often fat soluble and end up " particularly concentrated " in milk. As for the argument that we need dairy products because they contain calcium, Plant quotes the World Health Organization's finding that countries which have low intakes of calcium do not have an increased incidence of osteoporosis: " Scientific studies into calcium absorption have shown that only 18 to 36 per cent of the calcium in milk is taken up by the body. " Now that we're convinced, what should we be eating instead? Plant recommends soya milk, herbal tea, humous, tofu, nuts and seeds, non-farmed fish, organic eggs and lean meat (not minced beef, which tends to be dairy cow) and plenty of fresh organic fruit and vegetables (in salads, juiced, or lightly steamed). But how can the average woman afford the time and energy it takes to source and prepare such food? " Your priority should be good food, not glop, " she stresses. " Put organic food first. Your health is more important than a new car. Anyway, I don't find it too costly-- after all, I don't buy any processed food, which is very expensive. " Her husband and two children have no problem following her diet. And although she travels a lot for her job, she finds that she is able to manage-- she includes many tips in her book about what to bring with you on a trip (dried soya milk, herbal tea bags, kelp tablets for iodine, etc). She is about to start writing a new book, a guide for busy women who want to stay healthy. She advocates thorough and frequent self-examination of your breasts, and, if you do develop breast cancer, self-empowerment by working with your doctor " as a partner, not as a victim " . She is not a fan of the Louise Hay You Can Heal Your Life philosophy: " I do believe in positive thinking, but I'm also a scientist and I wanted a rational explanation. I have friends with diseases like MS who have read Hay's books and feel guilty because they can't adapt their mental attitude; or, if they have adapted, and the disease doesn't go away, they become distressed. " Plant, who is an advocate of acupuncture, has varying opinions of alternative therapies. She is suspicious of aromatherapy, found visualization didn't work, but took much comfort from cognitive therapy and hypnotherapy (both of which helped her to reduce the stress and anxiety caused by having cancer). Overall, however, it was her professional research as a geochemist into the links between disease and trace elements (such as selenium) in the environment in China and Korea that led to her insight about the role of dairy produce in her cancer. She finds the medical profession particularly shortsighted about the influence of environmental factors-- such as pollution and industrialization-- on disease: " I think public health has done a lot for the elimination of infectious diseases, but looking at the environment and nutrition could do the same for a lot of degenerative diseases. " Plant started writing Your Life in Your Hands for her daughter Emma (now 25). Emma's teen years were dominated by the fear that her mother was going to die: " The book's original title was What I Want My Daughter to Know, " recalls Plant. " The 63 women with breast cancer who followed my diet and survived their cancer encouraged me to publish the book. I was reluctant at first-- I knew I'd get flak for it, because science is an adversarial process. But morally, I felt if I had done the research and I had the information, I should share it with others. Men and women have the right to know what I know, and to draw their own conclusions. 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 This is interesting. She misses one key point: Chinese women USE their breasts, they don't give their babies formula ( which she did talk about in this article). Breastfeeding for 2-4 years offers a many-fold protection against breastcancer. Virginia -- In , <ebaker@n...> wrote: > This was posted at another list I read. > -- > The following article was found at > http://www.rense.com/general35/av.htm and I found it so interesting that > I am repeating it here. Has anyone else > tried this? > > Quote: > Cure Breast Cancer By > Avoiding All Milk Products > By Prof. Jane Plant, PhD, CBE > http://www.litopia.com/jplant/bio.htm > The Daily Mail - UK (5-27-00) > 2-26-3 > > Why I believe that giving up milk is > the key to beating breast cancer... > > Professor Jane Plant is a wife, a > mother, and widely respected scientist, who was made a CBE for her > work in geochemistry. When she was > struck by breast cancer in 1987 at the age of 42, her happy and > productive existence seemed destined > to fall apart. But despite the disease recurring a further four times, > Jane refused to give in. As she > describes in an inspiring new book, [Your Life In Your Hands] serialised by > the Mail this week, she devised a > revolutionary diet and lifestyle programme that she believes saved her > life and can cut the chances of other > women falling prey to the disease. > > Her theory remains a controversial > one - but every woman should read it and make up her own mind. > Today, she explains her personal breakthrough... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 I'm no expert; but it could be that the harmful affects of milk are eliminated by boiling and the vit c? [ ] Re: breast cancer This was posted at another list I read. -- The following article was found at http://www.rense.com/general35/av.htm and I found it so interesting that I am repeating it here. Has anyone else tried this? Quote: Cure Breast Cancer By Avoiding All Milk Products By Prof. Jane Plant, PhD, CBE http://www.litopia.com/jplant/bio.htm The Daily Mail - UK (5-27-00) 2-26-3 Why I believe that giving up milk is the key to beating breast cancer... Professor Jane Plant is a wife, a mother, and widely respected scientist, who was made a CBE for her work in geochemistry. When she was struck by breast cancer in 1987 at the age of 42, her happy and productive existence seemed destined to fall apart. But despite the disease recurring a further four times, Jane refused to give in. As she describes in an inspiring new book, [Your Life In Your Hands] serialised by the Mail this week, she devised a revolutionary diet and lifestyle programme that she believes saved her life and can cut the chances of other women falling prey to the disease. Her theory remains a controversial one - but every woman should read it and make up her own mind. Today, she explains her personal breakthrough... I had no alternative but to die or to try to find a cure for myself. I am a scientist - surely there was a rational explanation for this cruel illness that affects one in 12 women in the UK? I had suffered the loss of one breast, and undergone radiotherapy. I was now receiving painful chemotherapy, and had been seen by some of the country's most eminent specialists. But, deep down, I felt certain I was facing death. I had a loving husband, a beautiful home and two young children to care for. I desperately wanted to live. Fortunately, this desire drove me to unearth the facts, some of which were known only to a handful of scientists at the time. Anyone who has come into contact with breast cancer will know that certain risk factors - such as increasing age, early onset of womanhood, late onset of menopause and a family history of breast cancer - are completely out of our control. But there are many risk factors, which we can control easily. These 'controllable' risk factors readily translate into simple changes that we can all make in our day-to-day lives to help prevent or treat breast cancer. My message is that even advanced breast cancer can be overcome because I have done it. The first clue to understanding what was promoting my breast cancer came when my husband , who was also a scientist, arrived back from working in China while I was being plugged in for a chemotherapy session. He had brought with him cards and letters, as well as some amazing herbal suppositories, sent by my friends and science colleagues in China. The suppositories were sent to me as a cure for breast cancer. Despite the awfulness of the situation, we both had a good belly laugh, and I remember saying that this was the treatment for breast cancer in China, then it was little wonder that Chinese women avoided getting the disease. Those words echoed in my mind. Why didn't Chinese women get breast cancer? I had collaborated once with Chinese colleagues on a study of links between soil chemistry and disease, and I remembered some of the statistics. The disease was virtually non-existent throughout the whole country. Only one in 10,000 women in China will die from it, compared to that terrible figure of one in 12 in Britain and the even grimmer average of one in 10 across most Western countries. It is not just a matter of China being a more rural country, with less urban pollution. In highly urbanised Hong Kong, the rate rises to 34 women in every 10,000 but still puts the West to shame. The Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have similar rates. And remember, both cities were attacked with nuclear weapons, so in addition to the usual pollution-related cancers, one would also expect to find some radiation-related cases, too. The conclusion we can draw from these statistics strikes you with some force. If a Western woman were to move to industrialized, irradiated Hiroshima, she would stash her risk of contracting breast cancer by half. Obviously this is absurd. It seemed obvious to me that some lifestyle factor not related to pollution, urbanization or the environment is seriously increasing the Western woman's chance of contracting breast cancer. I then discovered that whatever causes the huge differences in breast cancer rates between oriental and Western countries, it isn't genetic. Scientific research showed that when Chinese or Japanese people move to the West, within one or two generations their rates of breast cancer approach those of their host community. The same thing happens when oriental people adopt a completely Western lifestyle in Hong Kong. In fact, the slang name for breast cancer in China translates as 'Rich Woman's Disease'. This is because, in China, only the better off can afford to eat what is termed 'Hong Kong food'. The Chinese describe all Western food, including everything from ice cream and chocolate bars to spaghetti and feta cheese, as 'Hong Kong food', because of its availability in the former British colony and its scarcity, in the past, in mainland China. So it made perfect sense to me that whatever was causing my breast cancer and the shockingly high incidence in this country generally, it was almost certainly something to do with our better-off, middle-class, Western lifestyle. There is an important point for men here, too. I have observed in my research that much of the the data about prostate cancer leads to similar conclusions. According to figures from the World Health Organization, the number of men contracting prostate cancer in rural China is negligible, only 0.5 men in every 100,000. In England, Scotland and Wales, however, this figure is 70 times higher. Like breast cancer, it is a middle-class disease that primarily attacks the wealthier and higher socio-economic groups - those that can afford to eat rich foods. I remember saying to my husband-- 'Come on , you have just come back from China. What is it about the Chinese way of life that is so different. Why don't they get breast cancer?' We decided to utilize our joint scientific backgrounds and approach it logically. We examined scientific data that pointed us in the general direction of fats in diets. Researchers had discovered in the 1980s that only l4 % of calories in the average Chinese diet were from fat, compared to almost 36% in the West. But the diet I had been living on for years before I contracted breast cancer was very low in fat and high in fibre. Besides, I knew as a scientist that fat intake in adults has not been shown to increase risk for breast cancer in most investigations that have followed large groups of women for up to a dozen years. Then one day something rather special happened. and I have worked together so closely over the years that I am not sure which one of us first said: 'The Chinese don't eat dairy produce!' It is hard to explain to a non-scientist the sudden mental and emotional 'buzz' you get when you know you have had an important insight. It's as if you have had a lot of pieces of a jigsaw in your mind, and suddenly, in a few seconds, they all fall into place and the whole picture is clear. Suddenly I recalled how many Chinese people were physically unable to tolerate milk, how the Chinese people I had worked with had always said that milk was only for babies, and how one of my close friends, who is of Chinese origin, always politely turned down the cheese course at dinner parties. I knew of no Chinese people who lived a traditional Chinese life who ever used cow or other dairy food to feed their babies. The tradition was to use a wet nurse but never, ever, dairy products. Culturally, the Chinese find our Western preoccupation with milk and milk products very strange. I remember entertaining a large delegation of Chinese scientists shortly after the ending of the Cultural Revolution in the 1980s. On advice from the Foreign Office, we had asked the caterer to provide a pudding that contained a lot of ice cream. After inquiring what the pudding consisted of, all of the Chinese, including their interpreter, politely but firmly refused to eat it, and they could not be persuaded to change their minds. At the time we were all delighted and ate extra portions! Milk, I discovered, is one of the most common causes of food allergies. Over 70% of the world's population are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, which has led nutritionists to believe that this is the normal condition for adults, not some sort of deficiency. Perhaps nature is trying to tell us that we are eating the wrong food. Before I had breast cancer for the first time, I had eaten a lot of dairy produce, such as skimmed milk, low-fat cheese and yoghurt. I had used it as my main source of protein. I also ate cheap but lean minced beef, which I now realized was probably often ground-up dairy cow. In order to cope with the chemotherapy I received for my fifth case of cancer, I had been eating organic yoghurts as a way of helping my digestive tract to recover and repopulate my gut with 'good' bacteria. Recently, I discovered that way back in 1989 yoghurt had been implicated in ovarian cancer. Dr Cramer of Harvard University studied hundreds of women with ovarian cancer, and had them record in detail what they normally ate. I wish I'd been made aware of his findings when he had first discovered them. Following 's and my insight into the Chinese diet, I decided to give up not just yoghurt but all dairy produce immediately. Cheese, butter, milk and yoghurt and anything else that contained dairy produce - it went down the sink or in the rubbish. It is surprising how many products, including commercial soups, biscuits and cakes, contain some form of dairy produce. Even many proprietary brands of margarine marketed as soya, sunflower or olive oil spreads can contain dairy produce. I therefore became an avid reader of the small print on food labels. Up to this point, I had been steadfastly measuring the progress of my fifth cancerous lump with callipers and plotting the results. Despite all the encouraging comments and positive feedback from my doctors and nurses, my own precise observations told me the bitter truth. My first chemotherapy sessions had produced no effect - the lump was still the same size. Then I eliminated dairy products. Within days, the lump started to shrink. About two weeks after my second chemotherapy session and one week after giving up dairy produce, the lump in my neck started to itch. Then it began to soften and to reduce in size. The line on the graph, which had shown no change, was now pointing downwards as the tumour got smaller and smaller. And, very significantly, I noted that instead of declining exponentially (a graceful curve) as cancer is meant to do, the tumour's decrease in size was plotted on a straight line heading off the bottom of the graph, indicating a cure, not suppression (or remission) of the tumour. One Saturday afternoon after about six weeks of excluding all dairy produce from my diet, I practised an hour of meditation then felt for what was left of the lump. I couldn't find it. Yet I was very experienced at detecting cancerous lumps - I had discovered all five cancers on my own. I went downstairs and asked my husband to feel my neck. He could not find any trace of the lump either. On the following Thursday I was due to be seen by my cancer specialist at Charing Cross Hospital in London. He examined me thoroughly, especially my neck where the tumour had been. He was initially bemused and then delighted as he said, " I cannot find it.' None of my doctors, it appeared, had expected someone with my type and stage of cancer (which had clearly spread to the lymph system) to survive, let alone be so hale and hearty. My specialist was as overjoyed as I was. When I first discussed my ideas with him he was understandably skeptical. But I understand that he now uses maps showing cancer mortality in China in his lectures, and recommends a non-dairy diet to his cancer patients. I now believe that the link between dairy produce and breast cancer is similar to the link between smoking and lung cancer. I believe that identifying the link between breast cancer and dairy produce, and then developing a diet specifically targeted at maintaining the health of my breast and hormone system, cured me. It was difficult for me, as it may be for you, to accept that a substance as 'natural' as milk might have such ominous health implications. But I am a living proof that it works and, starting from tomorrow, I shall reveal the secrets of my revolutionary action plan. Extracted from Your Life in Your Hands, by Professor Jane Plant, to be published by Virgin on June 8 at £16.99. © Professor Jane Plant, 2000. _____ Jane Plant's conviction that dairy products can cause cancer arises from the complex chemical makeup of milk. All mature breast milk, from humans or other mammals, is a medium for transporting hundreds of chemical components. It is a powerful biochemical solution, designed specifically to provide for the individual needs of young mammals of the same species. Jane says: " It is not that cow's milk isn't a good food. It is a great food- for baby cows. It is not intended by nature for consumption by any species other than baby cows. It is nutritionally different from human breast milk, containing three times as much protein and far more calcium.' Breast milk, like cow's milk, contains chemicals designed to play an important rote in the development of young cattle. One of these, insulin growth factor IGF-1,causes cells to divide and reproduce. IGF-1 is biologically active in humans, especially during puberty, when growth is rapid. In young girls it stimulates breast tissue to grow and, while its levels are high during pregnancy, the hormones prolactin and oestrogen are also active, enlarging breast tissue and increasing the production of milk ducts in preparation for breast-feeding. Though the concentration and secretions of these hormones in the blood are small, they exert a powerful effect on the body. All these hormones are present in cow's milk. IGF-1 is identical in make-up, whether in human or cow's milk, but its levels are naturally higher in cow's milk. It is also found in the meat of cows. High levels of IGF-1 in humans are thought to be a risk factor for breast and prostate cancer. A 1998 study of pre-menopausal women revealed that those with the highest levels of IGF-1 in their bloodstream ran almost three times the risk of developing breast cancer compared with women who had low levels. Among women younger than 50, the risk was increased seven times. Other studies have shown that high circulating levels of IGF-1 In men are a strong indicator of prostate cancer. Interestingly, recent measures to improve milk yields have boosted IGF-1 levels in cows. Could IGF-1 from milk and the meat of dairy animals cause a build-up in humans, especially over a lifetime, leading to inappropriate cell division? Though we produce our own IGF-1, could it be that the extra amounts we ingest from dairy produce actually cause cancer? Jane Plant already knew that one way the high-profile drug tamoxifen, used in the treatment of breast cancer, is thought to work by lowering circulating levels of IGF-1. IGF-1 is not destroyed by pasteurization, but critics argue that it is destroyed by digestion and rendered harmless. Jane believes the main milk protein, casein, prevents this from happening and that homogenization, which prevents milk from separating into milk and cream, could further increase the risk of cancer-promoting hormones and other chemicals reaching the bloodstream. She also believes there are other chemicals in cow's milk that may be responsible for sending muddied signals to adult tissue. Could prolactin, released to stimulate milk production in cows, have a similar effect on human breast tissue, effectively triggering the same response and causing cells to become confused, stressed and start making mistakes in replicating their own DNA? Studies have confirmed that prolactin promotes the growth of prostate cancer cells in culture. Another hormone, oestrogen, considered one of the main risk factors for breast cancer, is present in milk in minute quantities. But even low levels of hormones are known to cause severe biological damage. Microscopic quantities of oestrogen in our rivers are powerful enough to cause the feminisation of many male species of fish. While oestrogen in milk may not pose a direct threat to tissues, it may stimulate the expression of IGF-1, resulting in long-term tumour growth. Jane, who has found growing support for her theories from cancer specialists, stresses that she is not setting out to attack more orthodox approaches. She intends her dietary programme to complement the best therapies available from conventional medicine, not to replace them. _____ Pure But Deadly - Is Milk Potentially Fatal? http://www.ostomyinternational.org/June2000/1124.html Dairy-free diet and breast/colon cancer IOA Archived Discussion Forum May 2000 Posted By Dungan on June 19, 2000 at 17:40:01: The following review appeared last week in the Irish Times. Has anyone out there opinions or experiences relevant to Prof Plant's approach? British scientist Jane Plant, who believes a dairy-free diet helped her recover from breast cancer, talks to Donovan Tempted by a cream bun, you talk yourself out of it with thoughts of all that unhealthy fat clogging up your arteries. You opt for a low-fat yoghurt instead, with skimmed milk in your tea, congratulating yourself on your sensible self-control. Think again. According to a ground-breaking new book about breast cancer (which kills over 600 women in Ireland annually), dairy products, whether low-fat or full cream, should be off everyone's menu overnight. (They are also culpable with regard to prostate cancer, so that really means everyone). Prof Jane Plant CBE, author of Your Life in Your Hands, was diagnosed with breast cancer 13 years ago. She was 42, a successful geochemist (she is now chief scientist of the British Geological Survey), and led, she thought, a healthy life. There was no history of breast cancer in her family. She discovered that " only five to 10 per cent of breast cancers are the result of inherited genes, and the disease may not always develop, even in those carrying the mutated gene. " Bamboozled by jargon and frozen with panic, she fell back on her scientific training to try and figure out how she had developed the disease, and how best to cure herself. She went on the Bristol diet, she had a mastectomy, she had radiotherapy, she had her ovaries irradiated (to induce menopause and eliminate oestrogen), she asked questions and did lots of research. To no avail. By the time of the cancer's fifth recurrence (it spread into the lymph), she was given a course of chemotherapy and three months to live. She had an egg-sized tumour on the side of her neck. Brainstorming one night with her fellow scientist husband about why, in the West, one in 10 women get breast cancer (one in 14 in Ireland), while in China it's only one woman in 10,000, the pair came up with the simple answer: Chinese people don't eat dairy products. Plant eliminated all dairy products (including goat and sheep) from her diet. Six weeks later, the tumour had disappeared. When I meet her she is a youthful-looking woman in her mid-fifties, quaffing mint tea and eating a tuna sandwich (no butter or mayonnaise). She has stayed on her dairy-free diet and has remained clear of cancer. Giving up dairy products was only part of a healthy regimen she had been following throughout her cancer, including taking folic acid and zinc supplements, drinking filtered water and never consuming anything that had been packaged in plastic (phthalates, harmful carcinogenic chemicals, leak from soft plastic into food). In spite of her best efforts it was only after she gave up all dairy products that the cancer disappeared. Sixty-three other women who had breast cancer and who came to her for advice, also recovered after giving up dairy products. So how, I ask, can dairy products-- beloved of both the Irish and British alike, not to mention the Americans whose diet is 40 per cent dairy-- have such a lethal effect? " Milk is designed as the perfect food for newborn animals. They can't eat ordinary food, they are dependent on milk to keep development and cell differentiation going. But milk contains a chemical-- insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1 -- which girls have naturally as teenagers to help their breasts develop. This chemical-- which is designed to stimulate cell growth-- can send the wrong signal to adult breast tissue. " She quotes studies in the US and Canada in 1998 which found that pre-menopausal women with the highest IGF-1 concentration in their blood had a far higher risk of developing breast cancer (similar studies have found a link between IGF-1 and prostate cancer). The drug Tamoxifen, prescribed for women with breast cancer, is thought to work by reducing circulating IGF-1 levels. " Over 70 per cent of the world's population are unable to digest the milk sugar, lactose, " she observes. " Lactose intolerance may be nature's early warning system: perhaps nature is trying to tell us that we're eating the wrong food. " Homogenization apparently only enables cancer-producing chemicals to reach the bloodstream quicker. Plant has done her homework: " Epidemiological studies have indicated a positive correlation between dairy product consumption and breast cancer risk going back two decades. Studies have found an increase in breast cancer risk among women who consumed milk (especially whole milk) and/or cheese. " In 1977 scientists examining the incidence of breast cancer in Japan found " a significant increase in both the consumption of dairy products and the occurrence of breast cancer in urban areas " . She quotes more research to suggest that " free oestrogens " -- found in commercial pasteurized whole cow's milk and in skimmed milk-- may stimulate expression of IGF-1 resulting in " indirect long-term tumour growth " . She lists dioxins and other damaging environmental chemicals, some of them carcinogenic, which are often fat soluble and end up " particularly concentrated " in milk. As for the argument that we need dairy products because they contain calcium, Plant quotes the World Health Organization's finding that countries which have low intakes of calcium do not have an increased incidence of osteoporosis: " Scientific studies into calcium absorption have shown that only 18 to 36 per cent of the calcium in milk is taken up by the body. " Now that we're convinced, what should we be eating instead? Plant recommends soya milk, herbal tea, humous, tofu, nuts and seeds, non-farmed fish, organic eggs and lean meat (not minced beef, which tends to be dairy cow) and plenty of fresh organic fruit and vegetables (in salads, juiced, or lightly steamed). But how can the average woman afford the time and energy it takes to source and prepare such food? " Your priority should be good food, not glop, " she stresses. " Put organic food first. Your health is more important than a new car. Anyway, I don't find it too costly-- after all, I don't buy any processed food, which is very expensive. " Her husband and two children have no problem following her diet. And although she travels a lot for her job, she finds that she is able to manage-- she includes many tips in her book about what to bring with you on a trip (dried soya milk, herbal tea bags, kelp tablets for iodine, etc). She is about to start writing a new book, a guide for busy women who want to stay healthy. She advocates thorough and frequent self-examination of your breasts, and, if you do develop breast cancer, self-empowerment by working with your doctor " as a partner, not as a victim " . She is not a fan of the Louise Hay You Can Heal Your Life philosophy: " I do believe in positive thinking, but I'm also a scientist and I wanted a rational explanation. I have friends with diseases like MS who have read Hay's books and feel guilty because they can't adapt their mental attitude; or, if they have adapted, and the disease doesn't go away, they become distressed. " Plant, who is an advocate of acupuncture, has varying opinions of alternative therapies. She is suspicious of aromatherapy, found visualization didn't work, but took much comfort from cognitive therapy and hypnotherapy (both of which helped her to reduce the stress and anxiety caused by having cancer). Overall, however, it was her professional research as a geochemist into the links between disease and trace elements (such as selenium) in the environment in China and Korea that led to her insight about the role of dairy produce in her cancer. She finds the medical profession particularly shortsighted about the influence of environmental factors-- such as pollution and industrialization-- on disease: " I think public health has done a lot for the elimination of infectious diseases, but looking at the environment and nutrition could do the same for a lot of degenerative diseases. " Plant started writing Your Life in Your Hands for her daughter Emma (now 25). Emma's teen years were dominated by the fear that her mother was going to die: " The book's original title was What I Want My Daughter to Know, " recalls Plant. " The 63 women with breast cancer who followed my diet and survived their cancer encouraged me to publish the book. I was reluctant at first-- I knew I'd get flak for it, because science is an adversarial process. But morally, I felt if I had done the research and I had the information, I should share it with others. Men and women have the right to know what I know, and to draw their own conclusions. " Your Life in Your Hands by Jane Plant is published by Virgin at £16.99 in UK Dungan, Dublin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Most of this kind of falderal actually refers to commercially-produced, artificial hormone-laced, pasteurized milk from grain-fed cows that have been treated with antibiotics. When it is limited to this truly poison milk it is right on the money. The authors of such pieces, however, extrapolate it to all milk and milk products, including that from chemical-free grass-fed cows. Therein lies the error of their thinking. On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 11:40 PM, Mel wrote: > Quote: > Cure Breast Cancer By > Avoiding All Milk Products -- Neil Jensen: neil@... The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened. " -- Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Dear Patty, Pam, and Judy, I am going to begin today, in writing you three, my work and writings on cancer. It is the reason I joined this group. I will be writing this email as if I were writing a page for my site on the subject, so please, if some parts of it sound like I am promoting this work of mine, understand that I am. Obviously I believe in what I am doing and want to help people with it. In thinking of your recent communications and needs it gives me greater motive to write so in this I thank you for making this easier for me. Some of the material at the very bottom of this email were already written but I include it to complete the picture of what I am up to. The only limitation I have in offering the following is that my wife is going to have a baby sometime in May, so for about two months, starting then, I will not be free to travel to the center I will be talking about below. I have been working in the healing field for twenty years and have developed Biogenic Medicine as well as several new lines of psychology; specifically Listening Psychology and Communication Psychology, which are imbedded in my book World Psychology, and a Psychology of the Heart, which is expressed in another book called HeartHealth. I evolved Biogenic Medicine by combining the best and deepest aspects of Chinese medicine with color psychology. The systems combined give a tremendous ability to take diagnosis down to the level of the person, to the cause in them and in their consciousness. This does not mean that it excludes environmental factors like toxins taken in from polluted air, water, drugs, cigarettes, intense electric/magnetic fields, and very poor dietary habits that include many toxic chemicals in them. But it does mean we have to look at the specific reasons how and why a person has weakened their immune system to the point where cancer has taken hold of the body. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cancer and Flor de Ouro It is generally known that cancer does not usually develop in a healthy body with intact defence and repair functions. Cancer is a result of a damaged internal environment, which promotes cancer growth. This environment develops over a period of time due to multiple causes and conditions, which persist and remain chronically active even after removal of tumours by surgery, radiation, and/or chemotherapy. These causes, that remain constant after the fore named treatments, which do not touch upon the causes, are responsible for the formation of new tumours, which occur after local treatment in approximately every second cancer patient In the work and diagnosis I do it is not enough to make generalizations about these causes though we need to do that when writing about cancer in general. There are general causes and conditions that lead to the body's tendency to develop malignant tumours but there are also conditions that are very specific to each individual. Each individual is unique in how they tie their consciousness into a self-defeating knot. Meaning the cause is in them and thus they must change themselves, some part of themselves at least to change the cause. I am using consciousness in a very specific way here, but in short it is that pure life force that is flowing into us twenty-four hours a day that is being channelled through seven distinct levels or centres of awareness. There is the physical level, social, intellectual, emotional, conceptual, intuitive and imaginative levels of consciousness. So what we do with our imaginations for example is very important for it is the creative level of awareness. It has been said that cancer itself, on a very deep level, is caused when our imaginations are out of tune with our real beings, our real nature. In being out of tune or harmony, on this particular level, that we create a separation between our real selves with our minds. The body copies or mirrors this separation by creating or allowing the body to separate from itself. This is what cancer is, a colony of cells running a muck reproducing at a rapid rate operating in total opposition to the healthy colony of normal cells. The separation cannot last for the healthy cells cannot deal with the abnormal cells. Smack in the centre of this situation is the operation of the immune system whose job it is to kill off any foreign invasion, whether bacteria, virus or cancer cell. The health of the immune system is the key; its operation is the pivotal point for the start of cancer and for its elimination. Even in cancer patients there remains billions of healthy cells but when the immune system is repressed, it's key cells lose much of the virility, and this allows cancer cells the environment to get a foot hold in the system. It is also the key to cure because a totally operational immune system has the power to clean up just about any mess. It will go after cancer cells and destroy them in a war that it can win. There are really two aspects of human consciousness that comes into play in all of this, the heart, and the head, which just loves to separate itself from its own heart. The heart (not the physical pump) represents our being or vulnerable feeling nature that we are born with but forget all too easily in modern day life. Yet it is the source of health and the fountain of youth. We can only maintain contact with the heart and its life giving energies when we are in tune with the truth of our life and this is hard for most people to do. The heart is the key because its relative openness or closeness directly affects the immune system. Treating tumours alone does not treat the condition that is producing it, the underlying cancer disease. Consequently, there is a high rate of relapse. There is no medicine or alternative substance or magic bullet that has the same power over the entire state of our health than our minds and imaginations do when they are in tune with the life giving properties of our hearts. Yet at Flor de Ouro (Golden Flower) Healing and Retreat Centre for Radical Cure we employ herbal substances to clean and purify the intestines, liver, gallbladder and kidneys, and this takes a heavy load off the immune system, and in fact allows all systems to operate at higher levels. We also utilize a master herbal substance called Ayahuasca, a legal substance in Brazil that has been used for hundreds of years by native Indian tribes, It purges body, mind and emotion and amplifies all the work we do. In the interior we introduce and use the most sacred of all plant substances, Ayahuasca, which will intensify all efforts toward change and purification. Ayahuasca is a powerful holistic purgative medicine capable of great healing and transformation and has been regarded as the supreme holistic plant medicine throughout the western Amazon. It is claimed to cure a wide range of physical, psychological, and spiritual maladies. One cancer user described it, " I felt the presence of the plant racing throughout my body, peeking and poking into every nook and cranny in search of something to work on, to straighten out, to put back in order, to polish. " At Flor de Ouro we use it in conjunction with therapy as it works its magic upon the body and being. Therapy aiming to eliminate causal factors has to include all aspects of our human consciousness and thus at Flor de Ouro we create the ideal environment to tackle this all at the same time. Our work really offers an adventure in change and a great chance for radical cure. The treatment of all levels of consciousness simultaneously calls for a form of intensive short-term therapy, meaning I engage each patient deeply on the level of heart and being. HeartHealth provides the basis for this work and is completely different from traditional psychotherapy. In this process, and when we use Ayahuasca, we have to meet and confront the deepest aspects of self, and this we cannot usually do alone. This work is extremely flexible and will mold and adapt itself to each persons specific situation and needs. It is through intense, open and deep communication that we arrive to the root cause of disease and disharmony and it is through the same that we open a path full of answers and solutions. We offer the most complete program, one that you can begin to explore in the comfort of your home with virtual communication. Flor de Ouro also provides a totally natural diet, clean air and water, and an environment far from the stresses and pressures of modern day life. It is a place that for most people calls forth change because just to go there implies a change. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe I am offering a work that is very different from most of what is available in the medical and healing world today. Any feedback on the above or questions are welcome and I can send in sample chapters on the fundamentals of my work if requested until I get the site up and running. I hope this offers a ray of hope or a option worth taking for many people who are open and in need of such work. Sincerely, Mark Sircus Ac., OMD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Judy: Thanks! I'll phone my oncologist and ask her about Taxotere. Pam > Dear Pam....I was so sorry to read of your situation.I'm sure you will get many sending the " cure " . I just want to share something with you about what happened to me. I did black salve (blood root) to a node in my neck and to some skin mets on the chest when I felt desparate last spring-summer the inflammation was awful and it fueled other cancer in the chest and neck to grow. At the worst point I was finally in the hospital unable to even swallow water. I had pretty much given up all hope. An Onocologist came to see me and said if you go on the drug Taxotere your tumors will shrink in 7-10 days. It's not a cure but will buy some time ( I think he said 70% of people respond). I had not agreed to have any chemo since 85 when I had a few sessions and quit. I decided to go ahead just so I could die at home and not in the hospital and maybe have time to say goodbye,etc. > & -10 days later I was eating normally and feeling like a new person. I am wondering if you could ask for this drug if you haven't had it???? I am on my way to Germany today to try an experimental treatment in an effort to help myself and so I can get off the chemo as I know that's not an answer for the long run. Perhaps you've already had Taxotere I don't know but it may help you like it did me and above all Pam I wish you relief and God's help in getting through this time. My onocol. is a breast cancer specialist and he told me this is the best drug they have to help 4th stage people.I wish I could do more or say something that would ease your heart in some way. Talk to God is the only thing I ever found to ease my heart when I was in such pain and fear. > Love, Judy Hoffman > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Dear Patty, Pam, and Judy, I am going to begin today, in writing you three, my work and writings on cancer. It is the reason I joined this group. I will be writing this email as if I were writing a page for my site on the subject, so please, if some parts of it sound like I am promoting this work of mine, understand that I am. Obviously I believe in what I am doing and want to help people with it. In thinking of your recent communications and needs it gives me greater motive to write so in this I thank you for making this easier for me. Some of the material at the very bottom of this email were already written but I include it to complete the picture of what I am up to. The only limitation I have in offering the following is that my wife is going to have a baby sometime in May, so for about two months, starting then, I will not be free to travel to the center I will be talking about below. I have been working in the healing field for twenty years and have developed Biogenic Medicine as well as several new lines of psychology; specifically Listening Psychology and Communication Psychology, which are imbedded in my book World Psychology, and a Psychology of the Heart, which is expressed in another book called HeartHealth. I evolved Biogenic Medicine by combining the best and deepest aspects of Chinese medicine with color psychology. The systems combined give a tremendous ability to take diagnosis down to the level of the person, to the cause in them and in their consciousness. This does not mean that it excludes environmental factors like toxins taken in from polluted air, water, drugs, cigarettes, intense electric/magnetic fields, and very poor dietary habits that include many toxic chemicals in them. But it does mean we have to look at the specific reasons how and why a person has weakened their immune system to the point where cancer has taken hold of the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cancer and Flor de Ouro It is generally known that cancer does not usually develop in a healthy body with intact defence and repair functions. Cancer is a result of a damaged internal environment, which promotes cancer growth. This environment develops over a period of time due to multiple causes and conditions, which persist and remain chronically active even after removal of tumours by surgery, radiation, and/or chemotherapy. These causes, that remain constant after the fore named treatments, which do not touch upon the causes, are responsible for the formation of new tumours, which occur after local treatment in approximately every second cancer patient In the work and diagnosis I do it is not enough to make generalizations about these causes though we need to do that when writing about cancer in general. There are general causes and conditions that lead to the body's tendency to develop malignant tumours but there are also conditions that are very specific to each individual. Each individual is unique in how they tie their consciousness into a self-defeating knot. Meaning the cause is in them and thus they must change themselves, some part of themselves at least to change the cause. I am using consciousness in a very specific way here, but in short it is that pure life force that is flowing into us twenty-four hours a day that is being channelled through seven distinct levels or centres of awareness. There is the physical level, social, intellectual, emotional, conceptual, intuitive and imaginative levels of consciousness. So what we do with our imaginations for example is very important for it is the creative level of awareness. It has been said that cancer itself, on a very deep level, is caused when our imaginations are out of tune with our real beings, our real nature. In being out of tune or harmony, on this particular level, that we create a separation between our real selves with our minds. The body copies or mirrors this separation by creating or allowing the body to separate from itself. This is what cancer is, a colony of cells running a muck reproducing at a rapid rate operating in total opposition to the healthy colony of normal cells. The separation cannot last for the healthy cells cannot deal with the abnormal cells. Smack in the centre of this situation is the operation of the immune system whose job it is to kill off any foreign invasion, whether bacteria, virus or cancer cell. The health of the immune system is the key; its operation is the pivotal point for the start of cancer and for its elimination. Even in cancer patients there remains billions of healthy cells but when the immune system is repressed, it's key cells lose much of the virility, and this allows cancer cells the environment to get a foot hold in the system. It is also the key to cure because a totally operational immune system has the power to clean up just about any mess. It will go after cancer cells and destroy them in a war that it can win. There are really two aspects of human consciousness that comes into play in all of this, the heart, and the head, which just loves to separate itself from its own heart. The heart (not the physical pump) represents our being or vulnerable feeling nature that we are born with but forget all too easily in modern day life. Yet it is the source of health and the fountain of youth. We can only maintain contact with the heart and its life giving energies when we are in tune with the truth of our life and this is hard for most people to do. The heart is the key because its relative openness or closeness directly affects the immune system. Treating tumours alone does not treat the condition that is producing it, the underlying cancer disease. Consequently, there is a high rate of relapse. There is no medicine or alternative substance or magic bullet that has the same power over the entire state of our health than our minds and imaginations do when they are in tune with the life giving properties of our hearts. Yet at Flor de Ouro (Golden Flower) Healing and Retreat Centre for Radical Cure we employ herbal substances to clean and purify the intestines, liver, gallbladder and kidneys, and this takes a heavy load off the immune system, and in fact allows all systems to operate at higher levels. We also utilize a master herbal substance called Ayahuasca, a legal substance in Brazil that has been used for hundreds of years by native Indian tribes, It purges body, mind and emotion and amplifies all the work we do. In the interior we introduce and use the most sacred of all plant substances, Ayahuasca, which will intensify all efforts toward change and purification. Ayahuasca is a powerful holistic purgative medicine capable of great healing and transformation and has been regarded as the supreme holistic plant medicine throughout the western Amazon. It is claimed to cure a wide range of physical, psychological, and spiritual maladies. One cancer user described it, " I felt the presence of the plant racing throughout my body, peeking and poking into every nook and cranny in search of something to work on, to straighten out, to put back in order, to polish. " At Flor de Ouro we use it in conjunction with therapy as it works its magic upon the body and being. Therapy aiming to eliminate causal factors has to include all aspects of our human consciousness and thus at Flor de Ouro we create the ideal environment to tackle this all at the same time. Our work really offers an adventure in change and a great chance for radical cure. The treatment of all levels of consciousness simultaneously calls for a form of intensive short-term therapy, meaning I engage each patient deeply on the level of heart and being. HeartHealth provides the basis for this work and is completely different from traditional psychotherapy. In this process, and when we use Ayahuasca, we have to meet and confront the deepest aspects of self, and this we cannot usually do alone. This work is extremely flexible and will mold and adapt itself to each persons specific situation and needs. It is through intense, open and deep communication that we arrive to the root cause of disease and disharmony and it is through the same that we open a path full of answers and solutions. We offer the most complete program, one that you can begin to explore in the comfort of your home with virtual communication. Flor de Ouro also provides a totally natural diet, clean air and water, and an environment far from the stresses and pressures of modern day life. It is a place that for most people calls forth change because just to go there implies a change. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I believe I am offering a work that is very different from most of what is available in the medical and healing world today. Any feedback on the above or questions are welcome and I can send in sample chapters on the fundamentals of my work if requested until I get the site up and running. I hope this offers a ray of hope or a option worth taking for many people who are open and in need of such work. Sincerely, Mark Sircus Ac., OMD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Hi Sircus, I really enjoyed your email. Thanks - Les Catterall Sircus wrote: > > Dear Patty, Pam, and Judy, > > I am going to begin today, in writing you three, my work and writings > on cancer. It is the reason I joined this group. I will be writing this email as > if I were writing a page for my site on the subject, .... > : > : > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Judy: The oncologist said that Taxotere was chemo. I don't take chemo, but thanks, anyways. Pam > > Dear Pam....I was so sorry to read of your situation.I'm sure you will get many sending the " cure " . I just want to share something with you about what happened to me. I did black salve (blood root) to a node in my neck and to some skin mets on the chest when I felt desparate last spring-summer the inflammation was awful and it fueled other cancer in the chest and neck to grow. At the worst point I was finally in the hospital unable to even swallow water. I had pretty much given up all hope. An Onocologist came to see me and said if you go on the drug Taxotere your tumors will shrink in 7-10 days. It's not a cure but will buy some time ( I think he said 70% of people respond). I had not agreed to have any chemo since 85 when I had a few sessions and quit. I decided to go ahead just so I could die at home and not in the hospital and maybe have time to say goodbye,etc. > > & -10 days later I was eating normally and feeling like a new person. I am wondering if you could ask for this drug if you haven't had it???? I am on my way to Germany today to try an experimental treatment in an effort to help myself and so I can get off the chemo as I know that's not an answer for the long run. Perhaps you've already had Taxotere I don't know but it may help you like it did me and above all Pam I wish you relief and God's help in getting through this time. My onocol. is a breast cancer specialist and he told me this is the best drug they have to help 4th stage people.I wish I could do more or say something that would ease your heart in some way. Talk to God is the only thing I ever found to ease my heart when I was in such pain and fear. > > Love, Judy Hoffman > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hi Sircus, I really enjoyed your email. Thanks Les, you sound like one of my old friends from college, they used to always call me by my last name. Makes me laugh just to think of it! :-))) Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER > USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES No I have not, my question to you would be about your vulnerability, the soft underbelly of your being, meaning your tears, your feelings, and where are they and where they have been especially the year or so leading up to your cancer. If you would like to respond I will in return. If you would like to know something more about what I am talking about go to my site and click on the link from the first page called The Heart is The Vulnerability of Being. Or go to this site also, I just found it. http://www.coping.org/growth/vulner.htm Mark Sircus Ac., OMD http://www.worldpsychology.net [ ] Breast Cancer > I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I have > been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there > and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have > confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour approx > 2 centimetres. - I would appreciate an urgent reply as > consultant would now like me to go conventional. > > many thanks. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Hi, I have been successfully using Dr. 's LATEST methods for almost 4 years to treat my breast cancer, after I refused to have chemo, radiation and tamoxifen. Could you tell me what book(s) of Dr. 's you are using and give me some idea of the extent of your program...for instance, did you have your mercury amalgams, root canals etc. removed? Could you describe the zapping you are doing, and where did you get your zapper? I can send you a lot of information, but so as not to overwhelm, if I have some idea of where you are I can narrow things down. > I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I have > been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there > and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have > confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour approx > 2 centimetres. HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER > USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES - I would appreciate an urgent reply as > consultant would now like me to go conventional. > > many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 -suzanne summers just cured her cancer with mistletoe injections, (Iscodor). German and swiss Drs are familiar with them. I like oral mistletoe. -- In , " cursingblackjellybaby " <cursingblackjellybaby@y...> wrote: > I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I have > been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there > and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have > confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour approx > 2 centimetres. HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER > USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES - I would appreciate an urgent reply as > consultant would now like me to go conventional. > > many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Correction: Suzanne Somers, supplemented her surgery and radiation therepy with Iscador, she didn't solely use Iscador to cure her cancer. Virginia > > I was diagnosed in October 02 with breast cancer - since then I > have > > been using Dr. Hulda 's protocles the cancer is still there > > and the tumour is growing (very minimal growth) Consultants have > > confirmed Stage 1 bordering on stage 2 ductal carcinoma tumour > approx > > 2 centimetres. HAS ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS IN CURING BREAST CANCER > > USING DR. CLARK'S PROTOCLES - I would appreciate an urgent reply as > > consultant would now like me to go conventional. > > > > many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those. I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. Thanks! Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Quoting d'lores delrio <delrio@...>: > I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been > doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. > I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more > of those. Consider the following diet additions: Pancreatic Enzymes (protein digestion) http://www.drkelley.com/CANLIVER55.html - As Per Kelley, the idea that one's pancrease is damaged (probably due to fluke parasites-Hulda ) and is no longer able to produce enough pancreatic enzyme to keep the body going. Addition of pancreatic enzyme would help reduce the load on pancreous, and allow some extra enzymes into the bloodstream to de-cloak the cancer. FlaxSeed Oil - As per many sources too numerous to mention. Our diet lacks in omega 3 fatty acids. Omega fatty acids is the final part of the humanization process for protein. In otherwords, we can eat all the protein we like, turn our bodies into an acidic cancer haven from protein digestion. Fill out bodies full of amino acids, and still be starving for protein due to not enough Omega 3 fatty acids. The above two items will get you protein, which is needed to fight cancer or any disease. Now we need to bond the protein together so it is stong, healthy. You know what happens if you lack vitamin C, your protein falls apart and you bleed to death, that's scurvy. MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) - The other half of vitamin C This helps to further bond proteins together. This will make internal body membranes thin, flexable, more permiable, and stronger. Also helps to alkalize the body and helps body to detoxify as MSM is also a foreign protein scavenger. If you get bitten by some unknown snake, the hospital will inject with with MSM to de-activate the snake venom. > I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. > I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. > I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. The above is also good. Ensure the VitalZyme enzymes has a good does of pancreatic enzymes. > I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without > surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. There is quite a few people that have been helped using the Budwig Protocols. This is the combination of cottage cheese (similar in function to MSM) and flaxseed oil. Budwig found that failure to stay on the diet for 5 years resulted in cancer relapse that was unstoppable. To me it would appear that the 5 years would allow the pancrease to heal itself. But if you stop too soon, the Pancreatic flukes and Live Flukes would continue to work on the pancrease until there was no more pancreatic enzymes able to be produced. This would then allow cancer to reign supreme. Regards, ---- Robb ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 hi dolores ditch the meat unless it is organic GRASS FED beef or bison. eat LOTS of cruciferous veggies and green salads ( organic where possible) . Add indole 3 carbinol ( found in the cruciferous veggies)...at least 200mg 3x/day. Vitamin D 4000iu /day ( a BIG dose ..you need to have this monitored) vitamin A 100000 /day ( another big dose ..same caveat)..If estrogen receptor negative add about 1600 iu vitain E succinate( mixed tocopherols); CoQ10 about 200mg 2-3 x/day ;Congugated linolenic acid 5000mg/day;curcumin about 2500mg/day;;selenium 200mcg 2-3/day ( another big dose!). Use ground flax on your salad and in raw dips.. Eat as clean and raw as possible. AVOID ALL sugar and white flour and refined products and hydrogenated fats and oils. BE strict here! get plenty of sunshine , fresh air and mild aerobic excercise ( walk don't run)...quit watching the news, have more fun rent a few comedies and LAUGH..have fun developing new raw food recipes from salad dressings to raw food fruit pies etc....Don't talk to anyone who is depressing... any way i hope this helps! ( oh yea some have found that 2-20 mg of melatonin at night is helpful; i usually a bit suspicious of using these hormones..but check it out) jeff [ ] Re: breast cancer I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those. I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. Thanks! Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 oh dolores ...i forgot to mention the Vitalzymes....if you are following the program ... how many are you taking ? you must take a lot of them....say 15 3 x/day on an empty stomach...this runs into $ jeff [ ] Re: breast cancer I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those. I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. Thanks! Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Hi Dolores – I second Jeff’s suggestion of Indol 3 Carbinol – though I would suggest 200 mg 4x/day (2 caps in the morning and two at night before bed). Add 500 mg per day of calcium d’glucarate. And definitely eat organic!! Once you start organic, you will not want to eat anything else. Best to you, Re: [ ] Re: breast cancer hi dolores ditch the meat unless it is organic GRASS FED beef or bison. eat LOTS of cruciferous veggies and green salads ( organic where possible) . Add indole 3 carbinol ( found in the cruciferous veggies)...at least 200mg 3x/day. Vitamin D 4000iu /day ( a BIG dose ..you need to have this monitored) vitamin A 100000 /day ( another big dose ..same caveat)..If estrogen receptor negative add about 1600 iu vitain E succinate( mixed tocopherols); CoQ10 about 200mg 2-3 x/day ;Congugated linolenic acid 5000mg/day;curcumin about 2500mg/day;;selenium 200mcg 2-3/day ( another big dose!). Use ground flax on your salad and in raw dips.. Eat as clean and raw as possible. AVOID ALL sugar and white flour and refined products and hydrogenated fats and oils. BE strict here! get plenty of sunshine , fresh air and mild aerobic excercise ( walk don't run)...quit watching the news, have more fun rent a few comedies and LAUGH..have fun developing new raw food recipes from salad dressings to raw food fruit pies etc....Don't talk to anyone who is depressing... any way i hope this helps! ( oh yea some have found that 2-20 mg of melatonin at night is helpful; i usually a bit suspicious of using these hormones..but check it out) jeff [ ] Re: breast cancer I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those. I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. Thanks! Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Jeff – could you tell me more about the Vitalzymes. I found the website www.Klaire.com <http://www.klaire.com/> that sells Vital-Zymes Forte (Active Plant Enzymes) - caps <http://www.klaire.com/product_details.php?product_id=37> . Are these those you refer to? Are these part of ’s old program? does produce his own pancreatic enzymes out in Texas. Please tell me more. Thanks, Re: [ ] Re: breast cancer oh dolores ...i forgot to mention the Vitalzymes....if you are following the program ... how many are you taking ? you must take a lot of them....say 15 3 x/day on an empty stomach...this runs into $ jeff [ ] Re: breast cancer I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those. I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. Thanks! Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 dolores..i agree with about the Calcium d- glucarate...good idea jeff [ ] Re: breast cancer I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those. I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. Thanks! Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 linda the vitalzyme are not the vital-zyme forte from Klaire labs. Vitalzyme is made by World Nutrition in arizona check out http://www.vitalzym.com/ or http://www.prohealthsolutions.com/vitalzym-faq.html for more info. they are very similar to Wobenzyme a popular anti inflamatory enzyme preparation from europe. You could also use Enymatic therapy's Mega zyme. or just straight pancreatic enzymes a la the protocol [ ] Re: breast cancer I have been diagnosed with breast cancer and refused surgery. I have been doing a mostly raw food diet with meat and some lightly steamed vegetables. I have been reading on the benefits of cruciferous vegetables and having more of those. I am also taking eniva minerals, essiac tea and treating my body for candida. I treat the Candid with Kolorex, garlic, caprylic acid and mixed probiotics. I am also taking VitalZyme enzymes. I was wondering if anyone has had success with treating breast cancer without surgery and would like to know what your protocol was. Thanks! Dolores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Don't overlook I3C and DIM for hormonal related cancers. Art billsf9c <OOWONBS@...> wrote: > I was looking for some info on Inflammatory breast cancer. > I was diagnosed yesterday with it.The doctor put in a port for chemo. This is a rare and fast moving cancer so I decided to have the chemo. > Email me or post if you want to. > Thanls > Sorry, . I have little to offer but here it is: Here is an ad that popped up In ps, after I posted this and it faield, (This is a retype.) Maybe it will help someone. http://www.procrit.com/oncology/side_effects/helpful_hints.html? ref=2553 Ok, I read/post here rarely, but saved the list for future ref. The future is now, now. A fellow list owner in ps has a wife with IBC. is this list's Home Page. If you click it, on the left will be " Messages. " Clicking that opens the archives, which are searchable. See a Search window on the top right, enter Inflammatory Breast Leave off, " cancer. " The search engine does not allow + or & and fancy searches or exclusions, and " cancer " might retrieve nearly every post. As a listowner elsewhere I and 2500 others watch YahOops. The search turned up about 6 replies, and a retry " a minute later, " got more. This can be normal. It seems to limit time for a seacrh, once in a while. Still, at a glance there was little info, if the titles were indicative. Your decision seems sound. I wonder, if due to breast being so lymphatic, if this is a migration issue, calling for an overall chemo as well.. Chemo seems to be a general killer, and normal cells just a little more resiliant. I would also use a multi tiered approach. Dark skinned berries like blueberries, shittake mushrooms, limited caloric diet, etc. You must know that the folks who started the list, is (in Tempe AZ???) a group who use a multi-facted approach. For IBC, this seems wise. If you come across somethimg and have the energy, I'd like to pass it along to the listopwner's wife. Thabks! God Bless Y'all!! BillSF9c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 also co Q 10 and calcium D glucarate and plain old vitamin c in mega doses jeff [ ] Re: breast cancer Don't overlook I3C and DIM for hormonal related cancers. Art billsf9c <OOWONBS@...> wrote: > I was looking for some info on Inflammatory breast cancer. > I was diagnosed yesterday with it.The doctor put in a port for chemo. This is a rare and fast moving cancer so I decided to have the chemo. > Email me or post if you want to. > Thanls > Sorry, . I have little to offer but here it is: Here is an ad that popped up In ps, after I posted this and it faield, (This is a retype.) Maybe it will help someone. http://www.procrit.com/oncology/side_effects/helpful_hints.html? ref=2553 Ok, I read/post here rarely, but saved the list for future ref. The future is now, now. A fellow list owner in ps has a wife with IBC. is this list's Home Page. If you click it, on the left will be " Messages. " Clicking that opens the archives, which are searchable. See a Search window on the top right, enter Inflammatory Breast Leave off, " cancer. " The search engine does not allow + or & and fancy searches or exclusions, and " cancer " might retrieve nearly every post. As a listowner elsewhere I and 2500 others watch YahOops. The search turned up about 6 replies, and a retry " a minute later, " got more. This can be normal. It seems to limit time for a seacrh, once in a while. Still, at a glance there was little info, if the titles were indicative. Your decision seems sound. I wonder, if due to breast being so lymphatic, if this is a migration issue, calling for an overall chemo as well.. Chemo seems to be a general killer, and normal cells just a little more resiliant. I would also use a multi tiered approach. Dark skinned berries like blueberries, shittake mushrooms, limited caloric diet, etc. You must know that the folks who started the list, is (in Tempe AZ???) a group who use a multi-facted approach. For IBC, this seems wise. If you come across somethimg and have the energy, I'd like to pass it along to the listopwner's wife. Thabks! God Bless Y'all!! BillSF9c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 In various studies around the world Indole 3 carbinol (I3C) has proven very helpful in a hormonal related cancer such as breast, ovarian, prostate etc. Some people will use a related product called Diindolylmethane (DIM). Both are extracted from vegetable sources. They seem to keep the so-called bad estrogens under control. Art B. ww.alternative-cancer.net Sharon <sharner@...> wrote: I have a question for Stage IV breast cancer patients. My treatment on Taxotere has failed after 3 months. I have mets to the right lung with mediastinal and hilar involvement, which after Taxotere, has increased in size and number, but I have no symptoms. Could someone give me some advice on what has worked for them? I am going to the cancer this morning but also scheduled a 2nd opinion in a very large facility in New York to get their views as well. Thanks in advance....Sharon -- Re: [ ] RE: Question about honey? SNIP: So a small amount of sugar with an overall low-glycemic meal is OK, but bread and honey for breakfast is definitely out Before the dx of BC in 1997, I didn't have a sweet tooth. I have currently been NED since 2001, BUT I have this very bothersome sweet tooth that I do indulge lots of times. Wondering what has caused the appearance of the sweet tooth and WHY now? any suggestions? Hugs, Becky in Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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