Breast Cancer

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>

>

> The group FlaxSeedOil2/ has two

> people that can help you find testimonials. Do a search on the group

> for breast cancer. Don't use quotes around breast cancer.

>

> One is who has successfully used flaxseed oil and cottage cheese.

> I think her email is connected to Farkas, radjfarkas@y...

> If you are a member you may contact Farkas by clicking on his

> name in the second column on the messages page. This is where you will

> find I think.

>

> The second person in this group is Cheryl du Toit who knows of ten

> women and one man who have been successful with their breast cancer.

> Go to messages area and click on her name in the second column to

> contact her privately. I cannot make out her email.

>

> Many of these people are aware of the Parasite Cleanse and I am sure

> they have used it.

>

> posted by jrclark

I am a man who got rid of breast cancer in 1994 by following Dr.

's exact herbal regimen and clean-ups. I had had a nasty

malignant melanoma 7 years earlier. See my story at www.bestzapper.com.

Blessings!

Arthur Doerksen

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Hi ,

I don't know what Bill has in his summary. It sounds

interesting. Is there any chance that you could give us some key words

from the summary so we could have an idea of what he is recommending?

I do know that Bill had one incident where he was not as accurate in

his research as he could have been. When I first studied the Johanna

Budwig diet, I noticed a lot of mis-information on the Internet about

the diet. Bill said in his 1st book that it was ok to use

yogurt in the diet just as well as cottage cheese or quark. However,

based on Dr. Budwig's own writings, she never agreed that yogurt was

acceptable to use. I wrote to Bill about that and he wrote back that

he wasn't sure where he got that information. He thought it may have

been from the FlaxseedOil2 group in its early days back

in 2001. And someone may have said that yogurt was ok in those days.

However, now the FlaxseedOil2 Group is moderated by Wilhelm

Hansen, a native German, who has read many of Dr. Budwig's books as

written in the German language as well as the two English books

translated from Dr. Budwig's original. He said that Dr. Budwig wrote

that she was once asked about using yogurt and she said that she did

not answer. She only recommended quark or cottage cheese, possibly

due to the density of those cheeses and the way they blend with the

flaxoil.

Some people strain the yogurt to give it a texture more like quark or

cottage cheese or they use more of it, but Dr. Budwig did not

recommend using it at all.

So, that is what I know about Bill . He seems like a very

nice person, based on the email I received from him, and he has a

newsletter. I'm sure that his books have a lot of helpful

information. My one experience with him had to do with the inaccuracy

of the information he was offering about the Budwig Protocol. It may

seem like a small mistake, but it wasn't part of the formula that

actually healed people in Dr. Budwig's long practice, so we don't

know whether yogurt does the healing task or not when blended with

flaxoil.

Please share with us some of what is in his summary that you are

planning to follow and maybe someone will be able to give you more

input.

" <edsol1@c...> wrote:

> This is my first post here.

>

> My wife has breast cancer. We have tried several natural treatments,

> like Paw Paw Cell Reg with Immune Stimulator and Protease (Nature's

> Sunshine protocol); Essiac Tea; Samento, and Poly-MVA, plus

vitamins,

> minerals, raw diet, etc. All these products have helped her to keep

> her organism from further deterioration.

>

> She also took Chemotherapy (Xeloda) but had to stop the " treatment "

> after a couple of months because it was killing her.

>

> Now we have found Bill 's book " Cancer-Free – Your Guide

> to Gentle, Non-toxic Healing " .

>

> We are going to try all items in his Summary, but I would like to

ask

> if anybody in this list is familiar with his program.

>

> We will appreciate any help.

>

>

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Olson wrote:

> Hi ,

> I don't know what Bill has in his summary. It sounds

> interesting. Is there any chance that you could give us some key

words from the summary so we could have an idea of what he is

recommending?

>

, please excuse me for the terribly late reply (more than two

weeks), but I just have not had any time to seat down and write.

Here is Bill 's Summary

SUMMARY OF THE SELF-TREATMENTS

** Immune System Boosting – RM-10, Msr-3, Oncolyn, Beta Max

** Cottage Cheese/Flaxseed Oil – 1½ cups per day

** Heart Plus – from Our Health Coop

** Barley Power from Green Supreme, Inc. – 20 tablets per day

** Cancer-fighting Diet – (Books by: Quillin, Dyer,

Dr. Flavin-Koenig

** Vitamin, Mineral, Amino Acid, etc. compound – Daily Advantage

or ??

ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING:

o Protocel – No Heart Plus*

o Paw Paw – No Heart Plus*

o Onconat I

o Artemesinin – No Heart Plus*

o Crystal Calcium

o Exercise With Oxygen Therapy (EWOT)

o PC Essentials (for men)

o Red Raspberry Tablets

o The " Feel Better Fast! " combo – Not with

Protocel, Paw

Paw or Artemesinin*

Your combination of these will give you a 90% plus chance

of becoming cancerfree.

Your job….find the combination that works for you.

*There is nothing toxic about taking antioxidants with Paw Paw,

Artemisinin or Onconat

I…they simply make the treatment less effective.

The description of the above is found in detail in Bill 's

book Cancer Free.

Best regards,

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Hi

I wouldn't pay too much attention to statistics as I was diagnosed with the

same thing 2 years ago and am nowhere near death, where did you read that?

C

Toni s <ilt404@...> wrote:

Hi Thanks for your help on the Moss Reports. It is my best friend who has

breast cancer. She has had two pleural effusions in the last month and tests

showed cancer in the liquid drained from the lung. I have not told her but

researched on the internet and under ordinary circumstances patients with that

condition only have a prognosis of 3-6months. She is also hampered by the fact

that she lost her husband with a brain tumour just two weeks ago and is having

to cope with grief as well.

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Well that is wonderful news . You have made my day. I read about it

on a medical

website about pleural effusions. Could you tell me what happened with you. The

Doctors want to

put talc between the lung and the cancer to form scarring so the effusions wont

happen any more. Do you know anything about this? Did you do alternate

treatments and if so what. Have you got any advice for us?

Thanks

Toni

--- wrote:

I wouldn't pay too much attention to statistics as I was diagnosed with the same

thing 2 years

ago and am nowhere near death, where did you read that?

Toni s wrote:

Hi Thanks for your help on the Moss Reports. It is my best friend who has

breast cancer. She has had two pleural effusions in the last month and tests

showed cancer in the liquid drained from the lung. I have not told her but

researched on the internet and under ordinary circumstances patients with that

condition only have a prognosis of 3-6months. She is also hampered by the fact

that she lost her husband with a brain tumour just two weeks ago and is having

to cope with grief as well.

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After having 4 years of remissions, I was rediagnosed with lesions in my chest

wall and a 1.5 cent tumor on my right lung with pleural effusion. I had VATS

(video assisted thoracic surgery) where they resected the lung and put talc. I

then was talked into chemo which I was scheduled to have for a year, I stopped

it at 8 months. This was almost 2 years ago and my lungs are fine,

unfortunately, I still have the chest wall lesions :-( I refused any more chemo

and am now doing thing like juicing organic fruits and vegetables, cottage

cheese and flax and tons of supplements, I am having an MRI on Friday to see

what is going on! Good luck

Toni s wrote: Well that is wonderful news . You have made my day.

I read about it on a medical

website about pleural effusions. Could you tell me what happened with you. The

Doctors want to

put talc between the lung and the cancer to form scarring so the effusions wont

happen any more. Do you know anything about this? Did you do alternate

treatments and if so what. Have you got any advice for us?

Thanks

Toni

--- wrote:

I wouldn't pay too much attention to statistics as I was diagnosed with the same

thing 2 years

ago and am nowhere near death, where did you read that?

Toni s wrote:

Hi Thanks for your help on the Moss Reports. It is my best friend who has breast

cancer. She has had two pleural effusions in the last month and tests showed

cancer in the liquid drained from the lung. I have not told her but researched

on the internet and under ordinary circumstances patients with that condition

only have a prognosis of 3-6months. She is also hampered by the fact that she

lost her husband with a brain tumour just two weeks ago and is having to cope

with grief as well.

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Thanks for your reply . Was it painful after having the talc put in?

Was that part 100% successful? My friend was going to have the talc after the

second drainage she had two weeks ago. They were going to put it in where they

drain out but the drain came out during the night before and then they said they

couldnt do it. Evidently they just puff it through the tube. Do you know what

the talc is made of? They cant put the talc in now until fluid builds up again.

I am hoping it wont but its probably just wishful thinking. I am giving her

heaps of paw paw tea. Boiling up the leaves and drinking it several times a

day. I had another friend cured herself 20 years ago just doing that and oxygen

drops. My friend Ruth has lost a lot of weight. Did u lose weight?

Is VATS just a very minor operation?

Thanks

Toni

--- wrote:

After having 4 years of remissions, I was rediagnosed with lesions in my chest

wall and a 1.5 cent tumor on my right lung with pleural effusion. I had VATS

(video assisted thoracic surgery) where they resected the lung and put talc. I

then was talked into chemo which I was scheduled to have for a year, I stopped

it at 8 months. This was almost 2 years ago and my lungs are fine,

unfortunately, I still have the chest wall lesions :-( I refused any more chemo

and am now doing thing like juicing organic fruits and vegetables, cottage

cheese and flax and tons of supplements, I am having an MRI on Friday to see

what is going on! Good luck

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Toni s wrote:

> Was it painful after having the talc put in? Was that part 100% successful? Do

you know what the talc is made of? Did u lose weight? Is VATS just a very minor

operation?

>

No, in fact, I never knew about the talc until after it was done. It has worked,

that's all I know! I haven't lost any weight, cancer has never done that to me

which is very good because I'm slender to begin with. She should eat some

cottage cheese and flax oil, that's good fat. VATS is a major operation. I was

in the hospital for 5 days and had 3 tubes coming out of my rib cage. I was

bedridden for a month after getting out of the hospital, but it worked!

C

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,

The best of health to you, also, in 2006. And the same to everybody in

the group.

And all of you 40 or older, make sure you get that annual mammogram! It

might save your life. Sue

On Sunday, January 1, 2006, at 09:49 AM, wrote:

> Sue,

>

> It's controversial to check the lymph nodes, even the sentinel node,

> if it's

> thought to be DCIS (since, by definition, this is cancer that has not

> spread), but, under certain circumstances, some physicians do.

>

> I'm glad they caught your cancer early, too.

>

> I wish the many women I know who have been affected by breast cancer

> hadn't

> been, but it's a relief to know that detection and treatment are much

> improved.

>

> The best of health to you in 2006!

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take 6 (ipt6) 3 times a day on an empty stomach. You may be surprised.

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_www.breastcancerchoices.org_ (http://www.breastcancerchoices.org)

Check out the Amazon discussion group.

Lynne

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Hi there

To fix one of cancer is a very huge undertaking. Firstly we have to change

our lifestyle, our diet, our thoughts, and also supplement to help the body fix

up damaged or missing things. And Of course we have to maintain this change for

a life time, which is perhaps the hardest thing of all.........and then to add

to all this we have to also make sure that the decided plan of action is working

as there is never ever a sure bullet for a person - we are all different and in

so saying - we all need different things. This is my opinion only. I think the

most important thing of helping ourselves with cancer is to research, reach and

educate ourselves. It is a overwhelming task but it is really worthwhile in the

end. You regain your health normally without hurting yourself too drastically,

Below is one of the first sites that I started my education on. It is simple

and very easy to understand. The gentleman on that site, Bob, helped me

greatly. He had been there and he had overcome his cancer and he had been cancer

free for six years when I overwhelmed him in my panick but he helped me through

lots.

Hope you were helped by the info

warmest regards Odette

here is the email address http://www.cancer-success.com

fmschwegler wrote:

I was just diagnosed with breast cancer Any suggestions or sites or natural

methods to rid myself

of this thing would be appreciated.

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Hi folks,

One thing I would recommend for maintaining positive thoughts and dealing with

anxiety is self-hypnosis. I used Gurgevich's home study course and I've

never felt so relaxed. I think different things work for different people. If

you are a " daydreamer " and you need a way to deal with anxiety and stay positive

I'd try self-hypnosis.

Best,

Bonnie

From: odette gaud

To fix one of cancer is a very huge undertaking. Firstly we have to change

our lifestyle, our diet, our thoughts,

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Hi, Belinda.

First thing I would do would be to get a second opinion. It is not at

all uncommon for pathologists to make mistakes. Not sure about how to

do that, as many members may feel that a second needle biopsy is

inadvisable.

I greatly appreciate that you do not want your mother going through

chemotherapy or radiation at her age. I hope the needle biopsy was not

too terribly painful for her, and I hope it did not spread cancer cells

to elsewhere in her body. You are SUCH a SMART WOMAN for coming here to

to ask questions BEFORE the doctors can do significant

damage to your mother.

As you are obviously aware, a 79-year-old body is not a 29-year-old

body. Such a body has already deteriorated from natural causes over the

years, and chemotherapy or radiation will exascerbate and hasten the

deterioration process. At the very, very least, by not allowing the

doctors to do their damage, your mom will be able to spend plenty of

quality time with you and the family before she passes on.

But I believe there are some valid things she can begin doing right

away.

Providing how she and you feel about her energy level and her

capability for staying with any particular protocol, she can:

begin the Budwig Protocol, which centers around eating flax oil,

cottage cheese, nuts and berries daily - (see the group

flaxseedoil2 and the files of this group for more information.)

/files

get some sunshine, fresh air and PLENTY of purified water daily (best

is 1/2 oz per pound of body weight daily, but get as close to that as

you can.)

take low-dose naltrexone nightly before going to bed

bounce gently on a rebounder(mini-trampoline) for 20 to 40 minutes a

day. The bouncing does NOT have to be vigorous. The feet do not even

have to leave the mat for the rebounder to have a significant effect.

get into therapy with a therapist trained in working with people

diagnosed with cancer. Sometimes working out emotional issues can have

a significant effect on healing.

eat plenty of green salads, raw fruits and vegetables. (Be CAREFUL if

your mom has been eating lots of processed foods all her life. RAW can

cause painful cramping. If she has been eating lots of cooked,

processed foods, start SLOWLY on the raw.)

take chlorella, alfalfa and blue-green algae and spirulina. These can

be purchased most cheaply at www.swansonvitamins.com.

Best wishes and best of health,

Elliot

>

> my mother had an needle biopsy on an swollen lymph node in her

> breast. It showed abnormal cells. what is the first step that we

should

> make concerning this. my mother is 79 years old and we don't want her

> going through any harsh treatments. does anyone know a good cancer

center in north carolina.

>

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Kay:

That sucks....but do what you got to do to get better. The sooner the better as

they say with cancer.

Marin

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I am praying for you every day Kay (Mares) and will continue to.

ie

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Kay,

Good luck, you're in my prayers....

Geri

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Good to hear from you Kay. Enjoy camping!

J. Warren

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You are in my prayers, Kay. A good friend of mine just finished with the

surgery and and all the treatments. She had a very bad year but hopefully it is

done. Good luck, I will be thinking of you. God Bless.

Debra From Canada

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Hi Kay,

 

Thanks for the update!  I'm so glad to hear you were able to get into the

surgeon's office so quickly.  That's great news.  Hopefully all will be ok with

the testing and you can have the surgery as scheduled.  Please keep us updated. 

As you can see from all the comments...your well-being matters to this group. 

You matter.

 

Continuing to send positive thoughts your way...

 

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Hello Everyone,

I want to thank those again who have been sending me thoughts and prayers...

I can't begin to tell you how much they have blessed me! ;-)

This Tuesday I go to speak with the surgeon and then follow with 3 more

tests to make sure I don't have cancer anywhere else in my body.

I'll let you know how it turns out.

Have a wonderful day!

Kay ~ on the Beautiful Oregon Coast

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Kay,

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

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Yeah!  That's wonderful news!!!!

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Kay,

That's fantastic the cancer did not get into your lymph nodes!!!!! You will

recover in no time. My sister had breast cancer nine years ago and also did not

have it spread to her lymph nodes and she is doing great!!! Eat lots of walnuts

and add flax meal powder to yogurt several times a week.  My ob/gyn recommends

that for healthy breasts.

Karon

Great news Kay. Perky new breasts! Radiation will make you tired,

from what my girlfriend experienced, but was easier to take than the chemo.

I'm sure you'll get lots of good advice, and it is very apparent you know

how to take care of yourself. Lots of love and hopeful thoughts coming your

way.

J. Warren

Hello Everyone!

First I want to thank all of you who have been praying and sending me

wonderful thoughts of love and encouragement. Thank you with all my heart!!!

The results are; I will have the cancerous lump taken out of my breast and

reduce the other breast at the same time. I'm told I will have " perky, nice

size, breast ;-) I will have radiation for 6 weeks. I don't have cancer

anywhere else in my body...Praise God!

Have a wonderful Evening!

Kay

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Dear Kay,

What wonderfull news!  I wish you all the best with the procedures ahead...and

of course: your wellbeing!!!)

I also had cancer 3 years back and went through serious surgery. The GOOD news

was - as in your case - that there was no cancer in my lymphsystem....What a

relief..I do really understand how you must feel.

Lots of love and sunshine from Denmark!

Anne