Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Did he have to get the shot in two separate doses? That is what I was told here for na (5). That children under 9 have to get it two doses, 21 days apart. So it won't full strength until after the last dose. ne (na Poly MTX Remicade) > > > > The Pedi Rhematologist we go to in > > Nemours Clinic in Pensacola > > told us to get the > > H1N1 vaccine shot, not the nasal mist. > > > > JRA (16) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 So far he only got the first one. He has an appointment for the second. From: ne Y <susannefountain@...> Subject: Re: H1N1 vaccine Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 4:14 PM Did he have to get the shot in two separate doses? That is what I was told here for na (5). That children under 9 have to get it two doses, 21 days apart. So it won't full strength until after the last dose. ne (na Poly MTX Remicade) > > > > The Pedi Rhematologist we go to in > > Nemours Clinic in Pensacola > > told us to get the > > H1N1 vaccine shot, not the nasal mist. > > > > JRA (16) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 , with my chronic babesia and candida I am not confident I can fight off the new flu if it comes. I am waiting for it to be available in my town and will definitely get the shot. My immunity is just too low to take a chance on getting the swine flu. Doug From: <neweng57@...> Subject: [ ] H1N1 Vaccine Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 3:30 PM Hi All, I am wondering about whether people on this site are interested in getting the H1N1 flu shot when it becomes available and what the ups and downs may be? I think that their are good arguments from both sides and the risk of infection (through normal or vaccine) becomes especially prominent for people with underlying chronic infections. I myself am leaning on the side of getting the shot rather than not but am still not certain whether the shot would inhibit my immune system further or whether Rife/Buhner/ saltC would help me if I did not. I wonder what other people think of this combination? Rifes GB4000 seems to have a frequency for british swine flu which is probably different from todays variety but perhaps frequencies are similar. It is all very complicated and thank anyone for their input. Sincerely PS. I am sorry if this post is off-topic but not sure if it violates any rules of the chatroom?? I also understand that each person reacts differently due to many different underlying variables (severity of disease, proximity to others etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Doug - there's a huge ongoing discussion on lymenet about the H1N1 flu vaccine. Have you read any of it? People are concerned our immune systems are too weak to handle the adjuvants in the flu shot - mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde and lipid squalene, the latter which can cause severe auto-immune reactions. There are lists of things we can take to keep our immune systems strong during this time, if you do a search there for H1N1 protective supplements. You can also check out swineflu.mercola.com and www.healthfreedomusa.com for flu shot evals. Does not look good. I understand you're concerned, but you can protect yourself naturally, if you look at the supplement lists. The mercola site and healthfreedom site also list natural ways to protect. - Robin [ ] H1N1 Vaccine Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 3:30 PM Hi All, I am wondering about whether people on this site are interested in getting the H1N1 flu shot when it becomes available and what the ups and downs may be? I think that their are good arguments from both sides and the risk of infection (through normal or vaccine) becomes especially prominent for people with underlying chronic infections. I myself am leaning on the side of getting the shot rather than not but am still not certain whether the shot would inhibit my immune system further or whether Rife/Buhner/ saltC would help me if I did not. I wonder what other people think of this combination? Rifes GB4000 seems to have a frequency for british swine flu which is probably different from todays variety but perhaps frequencies are similar. It is all very complicated and thank anyone for their input. Sincerely PS. I am sorry if this post is off-topic but not sure if it violates any rules of the chatroom?? I also understand that each person reacts differently due to many different underlying variables (severity of disease, proximity to others etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I agree that it is a bad idea because of the adjuvants and because the vaccine is unproven until now. The strongly pro-vaccine bias (no info on risks) from our government is not making me enthusiastic either. Another issue is if Lymies are really at (higher) risk. I got the impression from earlier research that especially people with strong immune systems are at risk from H1N1, because they can die from their own immune response (haven't followed all the recent discussions though). If this is true, then maybe Lymies are less at risk than the general population because our immune systems have broken down, or they are to busy with other things. In my country the swine flue has just started to spread; officially it is called Mexican flue over here, because farmers and politicians are scared people will stop buying pig meat. Maybe I got it myself, suddenly had nearly 39C fever a few days ago with some general flue symptoms. During my Lyme years temperatures over 36.5C have been extremely rare. Taking the vaccine does not make much sense in this condition, so I don't have to worry about the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Not that it matters much, so feel free not to answer. But, I am wondering why one would need to keep a child home from school after a shot. If the effectiveness isn't as well in 3 days, or 2 weeks, what difference would that be from having the child at school before having the shot to start with. It seems to me that unless the shot lowers their immune system for 3 days after having it, it doesn't make any logical sense. One of the reasons that they won't let kids come to school until they have their vaccines, is to protect the child from large groups that could potentially expose them. Of course, you can always opt out by exemption, and then they send the unvaxed kids home during an epidemic, for those vaxes that are required. If there is a flu epidemic, they don't send unvaxed kids home, because than it may be half the whole school. Although, I know they shut schools down because of such epidemics. Anyway, just wondering at the logic. Kymberli > > > > The Pedi Rhematologist we go to in > > Nemours Clinic in Pensacola > > told us to get the > > H1N1 vaccine shot, not the nasal mist. > > > > JRA (16) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Robin, I will look that over thanks. I do not hear however of any adverse reactions to the H1N1 shot. Doug From: sfrobink@... <sfrobink@...> Subject: Re: [ ] H1N1 Vaccine Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 1:33 AM Doug - there's a huge ongoing discussion on lymenet about the H1N1 flu vaccine. Have you read any of it? People are concerned our immune systems are too weak to handle the adjuvants in the flu shot - mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde and lipid squalene, the latter which can cause severe auto-immune reactions. There are lists of things we can take to keep our immune systems strong during this time, if you do a search there for H1N1 protective supplements. You can also check out swineflu.mercola. com and www.healthfreedomus a.com for flu shot evals. Does not look good. I understand you're concerned, but you can protect yourself naturally, if you look at the supplement lists. The mercola site and healthfreedom site also list natural ways to protect. - Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Hi, I am writing an article about this and will post when I finish, but quickly I wanted to mention some points you may consider: 1) The administration has over-hyped the degree of H1N1 flu. Understand the the pharmaceutical industry donates billions of dollars to the campaign coffers of both major political parties and they expect something for all that money. In this case what they get is blanket immunity from any claims resulting from vaccine-injury. And they get an entire population held hostage to the jab. 2) In the United Kingdom over 40% of doctors have said they will not be vaccinated. 3) The Vaccine was rushed through without adequate testing. 4) Recall that in 1976 a similar situation prevailed - an " epidemic " which never materialized, a rushed-thru vaccine, huge numbers of people vaccinated, huge amounts of illness from the vaccine, eventually the vaccine withdrawn. In the meantime the drug companies made a fortune. 5) Dr. Graeme Laver, who was involved in the invention of a flu vaccine, has said that the vaccine he helped to create was ineffective and [that] natural infection with the flu was safer. " I have never been impressed with its efficacy, " said Dr. Laver. 6) Natural preventers of the flu: Vitamin D, and immune-builders like oil of oregano. (see Null.com for details) regards, ellen > > Hi All, > > I am wondering about whether people on this site are interested in getting the H1N1 flu shot when it becomes available and what the ups and downs may be? I think that their are good arguments from both sides and the risk of infection (through normal or vaccine) becomes especially prominent for people with underlying chronic infections. I myself am leaning on the side of getting the shot rather than not but am still not certain whether the shot would inhibit my immune system further or whether Rife/Buhner/saltC would help me if I did not. I wonder what other people think of this combination? Rifes GB4000 seems to have a frequency for british swine flu which is probably different from todays variety but perhaps frequencies are similar. It is all very complicated and thank anyone for their input. > > Sincerely > > > PS. I am sorry if this post is off-topic but not sure if it violates any rules of the chatroom?? I also understand that each person reacts differently due to many different underlying variables (severity of disease, proximity to others etc) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 We're seeing panic as well because of lack of availability... BTW, thanks guys for the canary bit > > > > Yeah your kids could get H1N1 and spread it to others who have also > > not been vaccintaed. A perfect scenario for an epidemic. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Quick update, My ARR is still pending1 Ugh!!!! BTW, my son's school has 4 cases of H1N1 and the vaccine is only avail. at the end of the month. The canary thinks that maybe she should just keep them home (schools not closing until enough kids and teachers sick, hey, have to keep the economy going) because I am in a unique situation. I'm home with this undiagnosed illness as it is. I know it is inevitable, we will most likely get H1n1 (if he hasn't been inoculated yet) but hey, I'd love to get my illness under control so I can be a fit mom (ie. not debilitated )tackling it in my household. I am presented with an unique opportunity to potentially " control " the if and when. It will be rough and most likely I won't be successful but hey, why not? The norm. will send their kids because they are working and don't really have a choice. They indicate it is a mild illness but I guess we really don't need this " illness " right now with mommy " out of commission " I was one of the first in our region to homeschool and it wasn't that bad. Again, I've stocked up on the necessities etc. but hey, let's see how long we can avoid it... I know about the waves etc. but hopefully if the majority get the vaccine or the illness itself, by then, I'll hopefully be on my way to some sort of recovery and I'll be able to manage the illness a little better. I'm dreaming, right? The system isn't working for me right now so why should I trust the system in controlling this disease in the schools? Anyhow, I'll contemplate my decision this evening. I've homeschooled them for kindergarten but grade 4 and 6 will be a little more challenging esp. when my patience/energy low. Luckily, they are smart cookies and I love having them around, well most of the time I'm having a pretty good afternoon, I don't know what I did differently?? The nap today worked wonders. (ps. salt intake not different?) Gosh, last night I was so discouraged/feeling terrible, my husband is most likely coming to my next endo. app in 10 days. So that's it, making the kids nuggets, i'm not touching them!! The nuggets that is.... I'm making them healthy quinoa/veggies to go with it! That's for me.. Chantal -anxiously awaiting the ARR!!! What a system.. > > > > > > Yeah your kids could get H1N1 and spread it to others who have also > > > not been vaccintaed. A perfect scenario for an epidemic. > > > > > > CE Grim MD > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I am finding the research about Vitamin D is fascinating. http://www.medicine.mcgill.ca/physio/whitelab/papers/VitaminD-Nov07.pdf Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Chantal BTW, my son's school has 4 cases of H1N1 and the vaccine is only avail. at the end of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I did not have mine vaccinated - we have enough problems without adding more.............. LOL ________________________________ From: jchabot <jchabot@...> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:26:01 PM Subject: [ ] H1N1 vaccine  I was just curious as to how many of you had your child vaccinated against H1N1 Thanks judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 We didn't want to vaccinate our daughter and our lyme doctor is telling her patients she Does not recomment it. If you would like some interesting info On it you can go to mercola .com and check his websit for H1N1 Vaccine info. Be well Elaina _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jchabot Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: [ ] H1N1 vaccine I was just curious as to how many of you had your child vaccinated against H1N1 Thanks judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 no way! we are taking homeopathic precautions rather than upset an immune system that is already compromised with lyme and asthma.... and at the end of the day it doesn't guarantee they won't get it!lots of people who have been vaccinated get it anyway.... peace From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@...> Subject: Re: [ ] H1N1 vaccine Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 1:28 PM  I did not have mine vaccinated - we have enough problems without adding more........ ...... LOL ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jchabot <jchabotsnet (DOT) net> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:26:01 PM Subject: [ ] H1N1 vaccine  I was just curious as to how many of you had your child vaccinated against H1N1 Thanks judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 We did not do the vaccine. Never have done the regular flu vaccine either. I asked 2 LLMD's they both recommended NO to the H1N1 vaccine. Dara > > I was just curious as to how many of you had your child vaccinated against H1N1 > Thanks > judy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 NO WAY!!! we are just very proactive with our health, lots of washing hands, sanitizing house, eating right, no sugar, and hand sanitizer for when we are out. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Elaina <lagassie@...> wrote: > > > We didn't want to vaccinate our daughter and our lyme doctor is telling her > patients she > > Does not recomment it. If you would like some interesting info > > On it you can go to mercola .com and check his websit for H1N1 > > Vaccine info. > > Be well > > Elaina > > _____ > > From: < %40> > [mailto: < %40>] > On Behalf Of jchabot > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:26 PM > < %40> > > Subject: [ ] H1N1 vaccine > > I was just curious as to how many of you had your child vaccinated against > H1N1 > Thanks > judy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks so much for all the replies!!! I am not for the shots, but my son's Lyme doctor suggested he get both. Hugs judy ________________________________ From: darabeth2003 <dara.alewine@...> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 5:38:49 PM Subject: [ ] Re: H1N1 vaccine  We did not do the vaccine. Never have done the regular flu vaccine either. I asked 2 LLMD's they both recommended NO to the H1N1 vaccine. Dara > > I was just curious as to how many of you had your child vaccinated against H1N1 > Thanks > judy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I will not have my daughter get it, already told the school, she has had problems with other 'shots' grown in eggs...she can injest them just can't be injected with them Sara > > I was just curious as to how many of you had your child vaccinated against H1N1 > Thanks > judy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hi Gretchen, Firstly; thanks for the info on the B6 and for recommending ginger for the morning sickness for my daughter...this has proven really helpful...you always amaze me! I have a question regarding the H1N1 vaccine for those of us with CMT. Here in Canada they are recommending that everyone be vaccinated and we have an overload of mixed opinions as to whether this is a good idea. I'm sure that in the US you have also received all the doomsday warnings via email of the dangers of the vaccine itself, which I try to ignore (being one of positive outlook) but I must admit, I am somewhat confused and perplexed as to whether to have the vaccine and more importantly whether my pregnant daughter (who also has CMT) should take it? I would appreciate hearing experiences and advise from other members. Thanks again for the valuable work you do....it is more appreciated than you know! Warmest wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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