Coffee

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> Hi Bee

> I once heard that coffee stimulates candida & should be avoided

during the candida cleanse. Is this correct? I have chronic fatigue

as well as chronic candida & coffee is the only thing that keeps me

alert at work. I have 2 cups a day. Is that ok?

==>Hi . Welcome to our group. My program is not necessarily

a " candida cleanse " because the only way to cure candida is by

building up the immune system. However, coffee contains caffeine

which is a stimulant, and all caffeinated products should be

eliminated - see this article on it:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn5.php

> Also where can I get a copy of your anti-candida diet?

==>There was an article " Candida Basics by Bee " emailed to you when

you joined. You can also read my more extensive article " How to

Successfully Overcome Candida " here:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_8.php

Also print out the article " Curing Candida, How to Get Started " ,

which on that menu too.

We are here to help you get through this so you too can be healthy!

After you've read please get back to us with questions and concerns.

Onward & upward.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have fungal sinisitis and find that when I drink decaff coffee my symptoms

soon after are much better could the coffee be a natural antifungal?

Many thanks

a xxxxxx

[Guest guest]

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> Hi, I have fungal sinisitis and find that when I drink decaff coffee

my symptoms soon after are much better could the coffee be a natural

antifungal?

==>I do not really know a. However drinking anything hot will help

alleviate congestion in the sinuses.

Bee

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Wow, are comments like this really necessary? English is my second language.

If I make grammatical errors will I be ridiculed? I can't see newcomers feel

welcomed when they read messages like this.

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>Doug

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It was meant as a light-hearted joke. *Note to self... no more

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It's ok Doug, chalk it up to brain fog!

Doug <organyze@...> wrote: It was meant as a

light-hearted joke. *Note to self... no more

attempts at light-hearted jokes*

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newcomers feel

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> Hi Bee

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> What is it in coffee that kills candidia ?

, I didn't write that coffee kills candida, but it is possible that

having an enema could kill off candida, and also that the enema may

create some healing/die-off/detoxifying symptoms. Actually die-off,

healing and detoxifying symptoms are all the same thing; there is no

difference between them.

Bee

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> Wow, are comments like this really necessary? English is my second

language.

> If I make grammatical errors will I be ridiculed? I can't see

newcomers feel

> welcomed when they read messages like this.

==>Dear a. Doug may have made a mistake, since his humour isn't

always understood, but I might also request that if you have a

complaint such as this one about Doug that you email me or one of the

moderators offlist.

TIA, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

I do so well with all other aspects of my diet I allow myself to drink

1-2 cups in the am. I do buy organic brands since coffee is highly

sprayed crop and so I want to minimize the toxins there. I also realize

that coffee being a major diuretic I have to make sure I take minerals

to make up for the ones I lose. I don't know about traditional cultures,

but my parents drank coffee all the time when they were younger. My mom

is 85 and going strong but can't drink it now, my dad, well he drank

himself to death with booze but the coffee never seemed to bother him.

razarieh wrote:

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> I was wondering how everyone feels about coffee. I LOVE my one cup in

> the morning. I have read so many different opinions/facts? about

> coffee and I am curious to see what you all have to say. Also I am

> interested in learning how coffee fit in to traditional cultures.

> Looking forward to your responses

> Debbie

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[Guest guest]

There are a few problems with coffee. First, if it's not organic

you've got the problem of people who can't read the directions

applying toxic pesticides to the coffee; I recently saw a film about

child labor and the stuff they used on coffee was so bad it was

sickening/killing and blinding the poor slave kids who were working

in the fields when it was applied.

That brings on the second problem of coffee - if you care about third

world people, the IMF/World Bank and friends are putting pressure on

them to create exports to pay off their debt (which the corrupt

politicians used on themselves and their friends but the country has

to repay). So instead of people raising food on their land that they

can eat, they raise export crops like coffee, cocoa, and sugar; then

depend on the price on the world market when it's ready to sell to

see if they earn enough cash to be able to eat for a whole year (and

that's IF they even understand enough about budgeting to make the

money last for a whole year) So people who would have been healthy

subsistance farmers are instead growing stuff for export that we

don't even need instead; and eating white rice, ramen noodles, etc.

instead.

Then the last point - coffee stresses your adrenals, and on top of

that it stops adrenaline from being broken down so it stays in

circulation longer, which leads to higher levels of bad cholesterol,

hardening of the arteries, ulcers, and all the other stuff that

stress causes.

So finding alternatives is a good choice (that said, I do buy organic

fair trade coffee and drink it from time to time).

Different cultures have different approaches to the " stimulant in the

morning to get you going " thing. My favorite is the Japanese

umeboshi plums (fermented in salt) with rice for breakfast. That

really gets me energized (but I do get hungry again in a couple of

hours). I've had good results from homemade kimchi on rice as well.

The Japanese tradition is to eat the umeboshi and rice with green tea

(another iffy import) and possibly an egg.

If you just like a warm beverage to put your cream and sugar in in

the morning, I really like roasted dandelion or burdock root tea.

These are local and sustainable.

--- In , " razarieh " <razarieh@...>

wrote:

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> I was wondering how everyone feels about coffee. I LOVE my one cup

in

> the morning. I have read so many different opinions/facts? about

> coffee and I am curious to see what you all have to say. Also I am

> interested in learning how coffee fit in to traditional cultures.

> Looking forward to your responses

> Debbie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi! Don't eat anything until one hour after you take your meds. If you can't

stop coffee cold turkey take it in moderation. Weak coffee is the best. I drink

weak coffee with lots of milk. Then I don't get sick. Moderation is the key word

in everything you eat or do. Don't eat anything that you know that you are

allergic too. The same thing with chocolate. Dark chocolate makes me sick, but I

can eat small amounts of milk chocolate. Dauphine999

Alina <alinasherwood@...> wrote: Hello.

I am new to this group.

5 months ago I learn I have hypothyroidism.

I was wonderying if drinking coffee like 20 minutes after taking the

medicine is going to affect any way?! I take my coffee just with a

little of sugar. I do this for a few days and last few days I feel

weird around 10 AM for 30 minutes. My hands and legs feel a bit numbed

and get a bit dizzy when I get up to walk.

Also 2 weeks ago I switched the brands of my levoT. I wonder if this

could be?

I'm going to have a blood test this week.

Thank you.

[Guest guest]

I used to be a coffee fiend. I cut down to one cup per day when I

realized I have exhausted adrenals/hypothyroid. If you have any issues

with thyroid/adrenals I think you have to try to give it up.

I just ordered some DandyBlend (http://www.dandyblend.com) which is a

coffee replacement beverage made from dandelion, chicory, beetroot,

etc. This is day 2 of no coffee.

The Dandyblend tastes really good -- like real coffee. And it's good

for you. I haven't had any withdrawal symptoms so far.

Ann Marie

On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:00 PM, razarieh wrote:

> I was wondering how everyone feels about coffee. I LOVE my one cup in

[Guest guest]

i've read that it is really high in antioxidants. i

wouldn't doubt that traditional people drank it or at

least other substances like it such as strong black

teas. it may not go back as far back as other

foods/beverages. though, to my understanding, a

bitter chocolate drink was a traditional to natives in

central america which seems similar to me. the

chinese doctor i took my boyfriend to recently said a

little coffee (like one cup a day) is ok. i hear that

the main teacher for jin shin jitsu in the united

states drinks a small cup of coffee everyday to keep

her meridians open. i think body type may make a

difference too. i personally can't drink it daily

because i feel too many affects from it--fatigue,

jitters, etc. every once in a while i can and am ok. i

think some people just tolerate it better (stronger

constitutions?).

sabine.

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I was in Italy this last summer for several weeks and those people drink

espresso all day long! I was concerned that I would not be able to

tolerate it and we were suppose to drink what they gave us. I did fine

with it and really looked forward to it every day. The Italians live

pretty long healhty lives in general but they do eat alot of really

fresh whole foods as well.

sabine luis wrote:

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> i've read that it is really high in antioxidants. i

> wouldn't doubt that traditional people drank it or at

> least other substances like it such as strong black

> teas. it may not go far bacback as k as other

> foods/beverages. though, to my understanding, a

> bitter chocolate drink was a traditional to natives in

> central america which seems similar to me. the

> chinese doctor i took my boyfriend to recently said a

> little coffee (like one cup a day) is ok. i hear that

> the main teacher for jin shin jitsu in the united

> states drinks a small cup of coffee everyday to keep

> her meridians open. i think body type may make a

> difference too. i personally can't drink it daily

> because i feel too many affects from it--fatigue,

> jitters, etc. every once in a while i can and am ok. i

> think some people just tolerate it better (stronger

> constitutions?).

>

> sabine.

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I think that is true -- they are also much more relaxed and laid-back.

They don't stress about everything the way we do here.

Also, they don't have their food supply contaminated with tons of

soybean oil and other forms of soy. (Not sure about bromide and

fluoride.) Thus, they probably don't have the thyroid issues and

hormonal imbalances to the degree we do.

If you have hormonal issues, as many Americans do, you definitely want

to limit or eliminate your coffee. Unless you heal the adrenals, you

can't heal your thyroid.

Ann Marie

> I was in Italy this last summer for several weeks and those people

> drink

> espresso all day long! I was concerned that I would not be able to

> tolerate it and we were suppose to drink what they gave us. I did fine

> with it and really looked forward to it every day. The Italians live

> pretty long healhty lives in general but they do eat alot of really

> fresh whole foods as well.

[Guest guest]

Yeah back when I was really sick with exhausted adrenals, low thyroid I

was drinking on average 2-3 cups of coffee, 1 six pack of pepsi and then

2 glasses of wine every day. I did not have any water at all and the

rest of what I ate consisted of sugary and salty snacks and lots of

processed carbs and cheese, lots of cheese! I know coffee is my

addiction and I quit using it every few months to make sure I can stop

but then I usually after a few months start up again. I will quit again

soon since its summer and the need to have something hot is not as great.

inasnit@... wrote:

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> I think that is true -- they are also much more relaxed and laid-back.

> They don't stress about everything the way we do here.

>

> Also, they don't have their food supply contaminated with tons of

> soybean oil and other forms of soy. (Not sure about bromide and

> fluoride.) Thus, they probably don't have the thyroid issues and

> hormonal imbalances to the degree we do.

>

> If you have hormonal issues, as many Americans do, you definitely want

> to limit or eliminate your coffee. Unless you heal the adrenals, you

> can't heal your thyroid.

>

> Ann Marie

>

[Guest guest]

For anyone who loves the taste of coffee but finds its effects too

strong, I highly recommend cold brew coffee. You get less caffeine,

less unpleasant bitterness, and a more complex and full-bodied taste.

I posted about it on the group last summer if anyone missed it:

/message/93499

Tom

[Guest guest]

Thank you for advice!

I ussually don't drink more than 1 coffee/day.

I just was to the doctor, runned some blood test. The one for thyroid

did not came, but found out I don't have enough iron in my body.

Hello.

> I am new to this group.

> 5 months ago I learn I have hypothyroidism.

> I was wonderying if drinking coffee like 20 minutes after taking

the

> medicine is going to affect any way?! I take my coffee just with a

> little of sugar. I do this for a few days and last few days I feel

> weird around 10 AM for 30 minutes. My hands and legs feel a bit

numbed

> and get a bit dizzy when I get up to walk.

> Also 2 weeks ago I switched the brands of my levoT. I wonder if

this

> could be?

> I'm going to have a blood test this week.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HELP !!! I have exhausted adrenals and low thyroid too.

What have you done to heal this disabilitating problem ?

> >

> > I think that is true -- they are also much more relaxed and laid-

back.

> > They don't stress about everything the way we do here.

> >

> > Also, they don't have their food supply contaminated with tons of

> > soybean oil and other forms of soy. (Not sure about bromide and

> > fluoride.) Thus, they probably don't have the thyroid issues and

> > hormonal imbalances to the degree we do.

> >

> > If you have hormonal issues, as many Americans do, you definitely

want

> > to limit or eliminate your coffee. Unless you heal the adrenals,

you

> > can't heal your thyroid.

> >

> > Ann Marie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Salt is very good for the adrenals, especially the natural ones like

Celtic Sea Salt or Redmond's.

Many people swear by iodine for the thyroid - Lugol's, Sea-Adine,

atomidine, iodoral all have their fans.

Fasting is a good way to heal the adrenals and thyroid, see

www.juicefasting.org (.com?) I've done it twice now, and after the

second time really felt like I'd made some progress.

I read up on it awhile ago and the site I was reading also said

adrenal fatigue is closly linked to plain old fatigue - people trying

to do too much and not getting enough rest - physically or

emotionally. So allowing yourself to sleep in, be lazy; taking

vacations where you relax are all supposed to be helpful.

> > >

> > > I think that is true -- they are also much more relaxed and

laid-

> back.

> > > They don't stress about everything the way we do here.

> > >

> > > Also, they don't have their food supply contaminated with tons

of

> > > soybean oil and other forms of soy. (Not sure about bromide and

> > > fluoride.) Thus, they probably don't have the thyroid issues and

> > > hormonal imbalances to the degree we do.

> > >

> > > If you have hormonal issues, as many Americans do, you

definitely

> want

> > > to limit or eliminate your coffee. Unless you heal the

adrenals,

> you

> > > can't heal your thyroid.

> > >

> > > Ann Marie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hope you feel better soon. Dauphine999

Alina <alinasherwood@...> wrote:

Thank you for advice!

I ussually don't drink more than 1 coffee/day.

I just was to the doctor, runned some blood test. The one for thyroid

did not came, but found out I don't have enough iron in my body.

Hello.

> I am new to this group.

> 5 months ago I learn I have hypothyroidism.

> I was wonderying if drinking coffee like 20 minutes after taking

the

> medicine is going to affect any way?! I take my coffee just with a

> little of sugar. I do this for a few days and last few days I feel

> weird around 10 AM for 30 minutes. My hands and legs feel a bit

numbed

> and get a bit dizzy when I get up to walk.

> Also 2 weeks ago I switched the brands of my levoT. I wonder if

this

> could be?

> I'm going to have a blood test this week.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tom-

> For anyone who loves the taste of coffee but finds its effects too

> strong, I highly recommend cold brew coffee. You get less caffeine,

> less unpleasant bitterness, and a more complex and full-bodied taste.

> I posted about it on the group last summer if anyone missed it:

I make cold-brewed water-process (fair trade organic) decaf -- even

less caffeine yet, and plenty of delicious coffee goodness.

-

[Guest guest]

Tom,

> For anyone who loves the taste of coffee but finds its effects too

> strong, I highly recommend cold brew coffee. You get less caffeine,

> less unpleasant bitterness, and a more complex and full-bodied taste.

> I posted about it on the group last summer if anyone missed it:

>

> /message/93499

Thanks for posting that thread again. I tried regular coffee a couple

of years ago on a regular basis and twice I almost passed out. It was

quite scary. But I think I will try the cold-processed approach.

I notice there is a cold-process brewer one can buy for only $30.

Since I don't want any mason jars on my counter I think I am going to

try this. The reviews over at Amazon for this type of coffee were 99%

positive.

http://www.amazon.com/Toddy-Cafe-Cold-Coffee-System/dp/B0006H0JVW

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the contrary, the prize in the contest of men is won by him who has

trained himself by the discharge of the duties of husband and father

and by the supervision of a household, regardless of pleasure and

pain. It is won by him, I say, who in the midst of his solicitude for

his family, shows himself inseparable from the love of God. "

- Clement of andria

[Guest guest]

i agree that cold brew imparts a very smooth flavor. however, i'm not sure

that it is in fact low in caffeine. as i understand it, caffeine is highly

water soluble (hence the swiss water decaffeination process) and the longer

the grinds are immersed the more caffeine dissolves into the brew. espresso,

somewhat anti-intuitively, has much less caffeine as compared to any other

brew means simply because the water is in contact with the grinds for a very

brief period.

oliver...

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@...> wrote:

> For anyone who loves the taste of coffee but finds its effects too

> strong, I highly recommend cold brew coffee. You get less caffeine,

> less unpleasant bitterness, and a more complex and full-bodied taste.

> I posted about it on the group last summer if anyone missed it:

>

> /message/93499

>

> Tom

>

[Guest guest]

Oliver,

> i agree that cold brew imparts a very smooth flavor. however, i'm not sure

> that it is in fact low in caffeine.

According to a study mentioned in the original thread, both the

caffeine and acidity are quite a bit lower.

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" And true manhood is shown not in the choice of a celibate life. On

the contrary, the prize in the contest of men is won by him who has

trained himself by the discharge of the duties of husband and father

and by the supervision of a household, regardless of pleasure and

pain. It is won by him, I say, who in the midst of his solicitude for

his family, shows himself inseparable from the love of God. "

- Clement of andria