Coffee

[Guest guest]

right, i see that but i don't understand it <g>. okay, now maybe i

understand. the swiss water process uses *green* beans and *hot* water. i

mistakenly had assumed it used roasted beans and cold water. so, apparently

the hot water more fully extracts the caffeine from the beans. good deal

although i'll probably stick with my fair trade organic french roast decaf.

oliver...

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:22 PM, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote:

> Oliver,

>

>

> > i agree that cold brew imparts a very smooth flavor. however, i'm not

> sure

> > that it is in fact low in caffeine.

>

> According to a study mentioned in the original thread, both the

> caffeine and acidity are quite a bit lower.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, yeah, I often make decaf or half decaf when I brew coffee. (And

always fair-trade, shade-grown, organic, locally roasted by a roaster

that delivers their beans to stores via bicycle. ) I usually have

little need for caffeine and I have no desire to become dependent on

it. But the taste and smell of good coffee is so incredible that I

drink it several times a week. My favorite way to drink coffee is

about 4 ounces of strong coffee and 8 ounces of half and half or cream.

, if you buy the Toddy I'll be curious how you like it. The

reviews did sound good to me but I figured I wouldn't make enough

coffee to justify buying such a device. Currently I just have a bunch

of coffee concentrate ice cubes in a bag in my freezer--very convenient.

Tom

[Guest guest]

I didn't read your article, but thought that coffee contains niacin,

considered a treatment for some heart attack patients. It also contains

oils which are bad for the heart, like many other plant oils. I've heard

that a paper filter, rather than a recyclable mesh one, can trap more of

these unhealthy oils.

Pulled that one way out of the memory fog, don't take it as gospel.

Desh

[Guest guest]

>hi all,

>so I see that there are a few brands online that use the swiss

waterprocess. But before I purchase it, I am wondering if there is

>anything we can use with it? I know there is information on the siteon how

to make almond milk, which I have, but I'm not sure I'm allowed

>to have it.

>Only other idea that I can think is the egg drink as a creamer(whoever

posted this idea this week - thanks!)

>

HI , almond milk is not recommended in the beginning of the program.

There is a recipe for fake cream in the recipe folders using gelatin, eggs,

and butter that is pretty good.

a

[Guest guest]

>

> >hi all,

>

> >so I see that there are a few brands online that use the swiss

> waterprocess. But before I purchase it, I am wondering if there is

> >anything we can use with it? I know there is information on the

siteon how

> to make almond milk, which I have, but I'm not sure I'm allowed

> >to have it.

>

> >Only other idea that I can think is the egg drink as a creamer(whoever

> posted this idea this week - thanks!)

>

> >

>

> HI , almond milk is not recommended in the beginning of the

program.

> There is a recipe for fake cream in the recipe folders using

gelatin, eggs,

> and butter that is pretty good.

>

> a

Hi a,

Thanks for the post. Actually that's a good idea. I suppose in my

head I was imagining like a cool whip consistency and never thought of

the fake cream as a coffee filler.

thanks again.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've been using Dandelion coffee and it taste great ...... no caffeine of

course but it's pretty good .... I miss my real coffee

" rachael.meehan " <remeehan@...> wrote:

>

> >hi all,

>

> >so I see that there are a few brands online that use the swiss

> waterprocess. But before I purchase it, I am wondering if there is

> >anything we can use with it? I know there is information on the

siteon how

> to make almond milk, which I have, but I'm not sure I'm allowed

> >to have it.

>

> >Only other idea that I can think is the egg drink as a creamer(whoever

> posted this idea this week - thanks!)

>

> >

>

> HI , almond milk is not recommended in the beginning of the

program.

> There is a recipe for fake cream in the recipe folders using

gelatin, eggs,

> and butter that is pretty good.

>

> a

Hi a,

Thanks for the post. Actually that's a good idea. I suppose in my

head I was imagining like a cool whip consistency and never thought of

the fake cream as a coffee filler.

thanks again.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've been using Dandelion coffee and it taste great ...... no

caffeine of course but it's pretty good .... I miss my real coffee

Yea - I understand completely. I haven't found dandelion coffee - but

I tried Teachino - wasn't thrilled with it and besides, its got carob

which is not allowed.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I know ..... I bought those coconut oil capsules (in a carob capsule) a

while and was taking those to work as it was very convenient for me. But when I

came to this site I found out that carob is not allowed so had to give them up.

" rachael.meehan " <remeehan@...> wrote:

I've been using Dandelion coffee and it taste great ...... no

caffeine of course but it's pretty good .... I miss my real coffee

Yea - I understand completely. I haven't found dandelion coffee - but

I tried Teachino - wasn't thrilled with it and besides, its got carob

which is not allowed.

[Guest guest]

It's the caffein that is the problem. This is an issue that is often

discussed here. You can do a search of archived messages at our group

website for more details.

Swiss water processed DeCaff coffee is ok to use in moderation.

jackie

>

> why is coffee bad to have on this diet?? im sure there is a very

> obvious answer... but i am really having trouble without it.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure of all the reasons coffee is bad, but I have read it kills off the

good bateria, possibly caffeine causes this.

[ ] coffee

why is coffee bad to have on this diet?? im sure there is a very

obvious answer... but i am really having trouble without it..

[Guest guest]

>

> why is coffee bad to have on this diet?? im sure there is a very

> obvious answer... but i am really having trouble without it.

==>Here's the article about why caffeine isn't good for you,

particularly when you are sick:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn5.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Have you tried green tea?  Very good for you and has caffeine in it.

From: snafflesnshelties <snaffles@...>

Subject: coffee

Dr

Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 4:25 AM

What do you have for your 'wake-up' drink in the morning?

I want to stop having a cup of coffee.

What are my options for a morning drink?

thank you

joyce

[Guest guest]

mind you, I've not had this drink, but I knew someone who used chickory --

roasted and ground -- as a substitute for his daily morning coffee and he loved

it. He said it tasted alot like coffee. I know there are some brands of coffee

that put chickory in and I've tried those and liked them.

Best,

Dana

Dr@...: snaffles@...: Fri, 26 Sep 2008

06:25:14 -0500Subject: coffee

What do you have for your 'wake-up' drink in the morning?I want to stop having a

cup of coffee.What are my options for a morning drink?thank youjoyce

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[Guest guest]

Have you heard for Lingzhi black coffee in which Ganoderma extract

added & its natural coffee ? It is coffee cum medicine. Reply if you

know health benifits of Ligzhi black coffee.

Avinash

>

>

> mind you, I've not had this drink, but I knew someone who used

chickory -- roasted and ground -- as a substitute for his daily

morning coffee and he loved it. He said it tasted alot like

coffee. I know there are some brands of coffee that put chickory in

and I've tried those and liked them.

> Best,

> Dana

>

>

>

> Dr@...: snaffles@...: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:25:14 -

0500Subject: coffee

>

>

>

>

> What do you have for your 'wake-up' drink in the morning?I want to

stop having a cup of coffee.What are my options for a morning drink?

thank youjoyce

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Crystal I have atrial fibrillation. In order to stop the episodes one of the

things I did was to eliminate all caffeine. That includes coffee, tea, decaf

coffee and tea, and chocolate and cocoa. I do dring herbal teas which are

caffeine free totally. It worked, the afib stopped and I'm off all of the

medication they put me on for it. If the caffeine is affecting you, it's

probably not a good idea to continue with it. By the way, I did it all instantly

without trying to wean myself off, since I consider that torture. : )

Roni

<>Just because something

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not there<>

From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...>

Subject: Coffee

hypothyroidism

Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:40 AM

I seem to recall something about it it's not okay to drink coffee during the

1st couple of hours of taking meds.  Did I dream that up?  Please explain!

It didn't pertain to me, but I'm trying not to drink pop and for most of my

adult life, I drank Dr pepper in place of coffee.  I didn't know coffee

could make you so fast!  My friend call me a typical newbie ; )

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[Guest guest]

Caffeine just helps me go as fast as my kids hahaha. As far as

decaffeinated drinks, don't they use formaldehyde to decaffinate teas and

coffees? To me that is worse than the caffeine!

CW

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-- Coffee

hypothyroidism

Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:40 AM

I seem to recall something about it it's not okay to drink coffee during the

1st couple of hours of taking meds. Did I dream that up? Please explain!

It didn't pertain to me, but I'm trying not to drink pop and for most of my

adult life, I drank Dr pepper in place of coffee. I didn't know coffee

could make you so fast! My friend call me a typical newbie ; )

CW

Traveling? Know someone who is? Use my travelocity site www.travelfhtm

com/crystalwright

[Guest guest]

And yet, caffeine can be some help when one has adrenal fatigue. If one

isn't making enough cortisol, the body will use adrenalin as a

replacement resulting in higher blood pressure or faster heart rate or

even a more erratic heart rate or all of the above. Caffeine is to some

degree a substitute for adrenalin, a substitute which has less negative

effects than adrenalin.

I know that when I used to take something with caffeine in it, my heart

rate and blood pressure would go down. I discussed this with several

doctors and they were clueless. When I self-diagnosed myself with

adrenal fatigue after getting some cortisol tests (both saliva and

blood) and started taking cortisol, my blood pressure and heart rate

decreased. My guess is that my body stopped needing the adrenalin to

compensate.

I believe a possible sign of adrenal fatigue is that caffeine doesn't

give one the pick-me-up effect that other people get or that one used to

get. Caffeine also contributes to adrenal fatigue so taking it doesn't

make adrenal fatigue any better in the long run. What is required is to

give the adrenals a chance to recover and that requires cortisol

replacement to normal levels.

When I used to get PVCs regularly caffeine would paradoxically eliminate

them or limit them to many fewer. However, one cannot be on caffeine 24x7.

Steve

Roni Molin wrote:

> Crystal I have atrial fibrillation. In order to stop the episodes one of the

things I did was to eliminate all caffeine. That includes coffee, tea, decaf

coffee and tea, and chocolate and cocoa. I do dring herbal teas which are

caffeine free totally. It worked, the afib stopped and I'm off all of the

medication they put me on for it. If the caffeine is affecting you, it's

probably not a good idea to continue with it. By the way, I did it all instantly

without trying to wean myself off, since I consider that torture. : )

>

>

> Roni

> <>Just because something

> isn't seen doesn't mean it's

> not there<>

>

>

>

>

> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...>

> Subject: Coffee

> hypothyroidism

> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:40 AM

>

>

> I seem to recall something about it it's not okay to drink coffee during the

> 1st couple of hours of taking meds. Did I dream that up? Please explain!

> It didn't pertain to me, but I'm trying not to drink pop and for most of my

> adult life, I drank Dr pepper in place of coffee. I didn't know coffee

> could make you so fast! My friend call me a typical newbie ; )

> CW

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[Guest guest]

I did cigs that way too.

Roni

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From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...>

Subject: Coffee

hypothyroidism

Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 9:40 AM

I seem to recall something about it it's not okay to drink coffee during the

1st couple of hours of taking meds.  Did I dream that up?  Please explain!

It didn't pertain to me, but I'm trying not to drink pop and for most of my

adult life, I drank Dr pepper in place of coffee.  I didn't know coffee

could make you so fast!  My friend call me a typical newbie ; )

CW

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com/crystalwright

[Guest guest]

>

> Good morning Bee

>

> Just a question on coffee ....  As you know I've been on this program for just

over a year now and have been feeling great.  BUT I have to say, I've been

having a latte here and there. They have no sugar or sweetener of any kind but

they do have steamed milk. Do you think those coffees are going to cause me to

relapse?  I've been taking ginger (tea or in my foods)  on a daily basis for

quite some time  along with white tea and I feel it's helped me so much, however

I do like a coffee sometimes.

+++Hi Madonna. If you are having lattes they are your cheats, and if you are

only having 1 every 4 days or so it won't hurt you. It is better to avoid them.

>

> On a different coffee note LOL ,....   any idea on how to retain coffee enemas

longer?  I've been taking those weekly as well but rarely seem to retain them

for the 15 mins, I usually get to around 10 mins and have to release it. 

+++It isn't that important to retain the coffee enema. You will still get a

great deal of benefit even if you don't retain them at all, so don't be

concerned.

>

> Is anyone else experiencing a quick sudden weight gain for no reason? It's

weird, 2 weeks or so ago it seems overnight I gained 6 or so pounds and I can't

seem to get rid of it.  In the past, I gained weight easily and was a much

heavier person and I don't want to get back to that weight ever again.

+++I believe your body is " retracing " your past weight issues, so it can go up

and down as you progress on this program.

>

> Got my CLO Bee and I'm so happy. The service was great, had it in a few days.

+++That's wonderful!

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

***  Thanks Bee .... I'm going to limit the lattes to one a week as a cheat or

treat and when I feel like a coffee I'll half regular and half decaf just black

 .....

 

________________________________

+++I believe your body is " retracing " your past weight issues, so it can go up

and down as you progress on this program.

>

> Got my CLO Bee and I'm so happy. The service was great, had it in a few days.

+++That's wonderful!

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Good morning Bee

>

> Just a question on coffee ....  As you know I've been on this program for just

over a year now and have been feeling great.  BUT I have to say, I've been

having a latte here and there. They have no sugar or sweetener of any kind but

they do have steamed milk. Do you think those coffees are going to cause me to

relapse?  I've been taking ginger (tea or in my foods)  on a daily basis for

quite some time  along with white tea and I feel it's helped me so much, however

I do like a coffee sometimes.

>

> On a different coffee note LOL ,....   any idea on how to retain coffee enemas

longer?  I've been taking those weekly as well but rarely seem to retain them

for the 15 mins, I usually get to around 10 mins and have to release it. 

>

> Is anyone else experiencing a quick sudden weight gain for no reason? It's

weird, 2 weeks or so ago it seems overnight I gained 6 or so pounds and I can't

seem to get rid of it.  In the past, I gained weight easily and was a much

heavier person and I don't want to get back to that weight ever again.

>

> Got my CLO Bee and I'm so happy. The service was great, had it in a few days.

 

>

> thanks so much  Bee

> Cheers   Madonna

Hi Madonna

You don't want my full spiel and it seems like you answered your own question. I

would put no coffee in the common place and more in the uncommon place. Make

sure it is organic and the correct temp and check your other food intake for the

forbidden stuff and the unneeded weight will fall off as your body seeks

balance.

Neal

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is what I do. I drink black coffee (usually decaf) during the week.

Once a week I have a Matcha Latte (green tea latte) at Starbucks as my

weekly treat. Sounds like you're doing good!

--elizabeth

-----Original Message-----

***  Thanks Bee .... I'm going to limit the lattes to one a week as a cheat

or treat and when I feel like a coffee I'll half regular and half decaf just

black  .....

[Guest guest]

***  thank you Neal ... so you think the weight gain could be from the latte's? 

I know I maybe should not be having coffee and that is a weakness of mine.  Just

wondering at what point will we know when we're healed and if we can have coffee

again?   Yes, for the coffee enema's I use the  organic coffee.  I'm not having

any forbidden stuff with my diet except for the coffee as I follow the diet

pretty strict. The oils we take should not cause weight gain.  I don't mind the

diet at all as I feel great on it and know that it providing great nourishment

for my body. I've had a craving for cheesecake for months but will not give in

to have it.

take care Neal

madonna

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Hi Madonna

You don't want my full spiel and it seems like you answered your own question. I

would put no coffee in the common place and more in the uncommon place. Make

sure it is organic and the correct temp and check your other food intake for the

forbidden stuff and the unneeded weight will fall off as your body seeks

balance.

Neal

[Guest guest]

>

> ***  thank you Neal ... so you think the weight gain could be from the

latte's?  I know I maybe should not be having coffee and that is a weakness of

mine.  Just wondering at what point will we know when we're healed and if we can

have coffee again?   Yes, for the coffee enema's I use the  organic coffee.  I'm

not having any forbidden stuff with my diet except for the coffee as I follow

the diet pretty strict. The oils we take should not cause weight gain.  I don't

mind the diet at all as I feel great on it and know that it providing great

nourishment for my body. I've had a craving for cheesecake for months but will

not give in to have it.

>

> take care Neal

> madonna

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> Hi Madonna again

You answered your own question again I believe when you said coffee is your

weekness. " I know I maybe " The weight gain could also be what Bee said and that

be retracing your former weight. I used to have an ice cream sunday when I was

away from home on a trip. It tasted soooo good and then dropped me like a bad

habit. I finally woke up and realized that if I can survive the rest of the time

why consume it at all. Is a treat something we eat that we know is not

nourishing to our bodies? Maybe we should name it junk. I can see my daughters

grandmother handing some cookies to my daughter and saying " hi sweetie would

you like some junk " . I have now come a long way from that place and now like the

smell of the stuff and leave it at that. BTW my sense of smell has improved big

time. When at get togethers I often pick up a plate of tasty food, (and I'm

stretching using the word food) and smell it for fun and then place it back on

the table. People think i'm weird and then they consume that which I have just

smelled and I just stand there and smile.

You will know when you are healed and when you are healed you won't want a

stimulant like coffee because life is stimulating enough even if you are just

sitting and thinking.

I have had 1 sip of coffee in my 52 years and have studied the culture

extensively as I have had staff, family, friends drink it and have done service

work for a large coffee retailer and I have come to the conclusion it is

expensive, messy, unnecessary and highly addictive. I think it burn us up even

though we think it gives us energy. We use it to do the jobs we don't want to do

because it gives us a pick up. Better to flow with your own energy. I have

extended family members that can't even think what they would do without several

cups in the morning. Addicts they are and i'm glad I have removed from them.

I know, I know, you just want a latte occasionally not a weirdo's thoughts on

the subject.

Good job for coming as far as you have and continued success to you.

Neal

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Madonna,

I just wanted to share that I too have had sudden weight gain. I have actually

gained 40 pounds since January- up to 10 pounds some weeks! YIKES! I know Bee

tells us over and over not to worry about weight, but COME ON! This is twice

the amount of weight I gained during my first pregnancy! I should also say that

I am very strict with diet and work out more than anyone else I know.

soo....I'm going in for some testing on tuesday. I'll let you know what the DR.

says.

-Sara

>

> Good morning Bee

>

> Is anyone else experiencing a quick sudden weight gain for no reason? It's

weird, 2 weeks or so ago it seems overnight I gained 6 or so pounds and I can't

seem to get rid of it.  In the past, I gained weight easily and was a much

heavier person and I don't want to get back to that weight ever again.

>

> thanks so much  Bee

> Cheers   Madonna

>

>