Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Thats correct , Lesley worked WITH the state board to tailored its expressive therapy program (equally with its traditional Counseling and Psych program) to fit the state's requirements for an LMHC. What they did in their insight and brilliance, and where the NT CAT failed imho, is they collaborated with the state rulemakers (not struck out on their own) so the degree and professionals fit the requirements. The end result and product fit the bill so to speak. This not only HELPED with hireability, but it also took care of the insurance reimbursement bit. This allowed sites to actually hire Expressive Therapists and be able to do so because they would be legal and the sites insurance would cover the workers. It only makes sense that Expressive Therapists are reimbursed the same way as Clinical Social Workers or other Mental Health Counselors. Sounds basically a good idea, but I am so confused why NY State would choose to put CAT's on their own like it is now. Insurance is archane and cumbersome enough to naturally resist change. I am curious how someone would figure insurance would make more space for another Clinician type rather than piggyback on previous efforts?? The professional identity will come later after you have an army of people out there doing it. It feels like this area is 8-10 years behind the curve in terms of acceptability and permeation of the Expressive Arts in clinical work. How did this happen?From: "NYCCAT " <NYCCAT >To: NYCCAT Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 4:19:28 AMSubject: Digest Number 1685 The New York Coalition of Creative Arts Therapies (NYCCAT) The New York Coalition of Creative Arts Therapies (NYCCAT) Messages In This Digest (6 Messages) 1. 2009 NADT Eastern Region Conference - Call for Papers From: Lucy McLellan 2a. Massachusetts is only thee hours away but a world apart From: Matt Kraus 2b. Re: Massachusetts is only thee hours away but a world apart From: Cheryl Dury 2c. Re: Massachusetts is only thee hours away but a world apart From: HV Psychodrama 3a. Art made by the mentally ill From: AlliHur@... 4. Responding to Member Questions From: brianamacwilliam View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. 2009 NADT Eastern Region Conference - Call for Papers Posted by: "Lucy McLellan" lucymclellan@... lucymclellan Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:56 am (PST) The Eastern Region of the NADT presents: The 2009 Eastern Regional Conference Forward Momentum: Research, Licensure and Visibility March 28, 2009~New York University The growth of drama therapy is vital and necessary to our development and professional standing in the mental health field. The 2009 Eastern Regional Conference invites participants to contemplate and share on areas that advance drama therapy forward into the future. Participants are encouraged to share their own work in the areas of research, licensure and public visibility, as well as new and innovative ways you are expanding the boundaries of our profession. Strong research is vital to our growth and inclusion in mental health initiatives. Participants are invited to brainstorm, dialogue and present on research that speaks to not only efficacy, but also embraces methods that suit our field, clients, and goals. What is being done? How are issues of methodology, control, spontaneity and artistry combined? What are the pathsfor future research considerations? What of multi-disciplinary research methods? The addition of the NY State LCAT license is a major achievement. What can be learned from this? What credentialing issues are other states and professionals facing? How do we begin to address the needs and interests of the profession post licensure? What has yet to be done? How has this affected the scope of practice? How can we address these issues as a strong and unified professional group? Lastly, participants are invited to explore increasing professional visibility. Many of our clients struggle with issues of not fully being seen. How are you visible at your own place of employment? How can we present ourselves more visibly to the world? What place does marketing have in our growth and advancement? How do we market ourselves and our work, and show our value to the mental health field and beyond? How are we harnessing the power of social networking and the internet/media? If you are interested in presenting your work at this conference, please submit a proposal by January 10, 2009 to markbeauregard@ gmail.com .Please specify conference proposal in subject. Proposal Guidelines: Please submit the following information no later than January 10, 2009: 1. Title of presentation 2. Names of Presenters 3. A brief biography of each presenter (30 words or less) 4. An abstract of the presentation (50 words or less) 5. A brief description of the presentation 6. Length of presentation (1 ½ hours, or 3 hours) 7. Specific needs such as room/chair setup, Audiovisual needs, etc. (not all requests may be possible). The Drama Therapy Fund is providing a stipend to defray expenses forpresenters who are traveling a distance to the conference. There are three$250 stipends to be awarded this year. If you are interested in thestipend, please apply by adding a page to your proposal expressing yourinterest and outlining your expenses forthe conference. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2a. Massachusetts is only thee hours away but a world apart Posted by: "Matt Kraus" krausmc@... krausmc Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:46 am (PST) I would recommend moving to the Boston area! Having recently graduated from Lesley University (Cambridge MA) as an Expressive Therapist, and then moved to Westchester this summer I can safely say the Boston (and surrounding) areas have way way more opportunities than Westchester (but maybe not NYC). Perhaps it is the effect of having Lesley interns doing internships for the past 25+ years, but that area is plentiful with opportunity, acceptance and the evolution of thought that has come (and is needed!) with our field. The Expressive Therapy program at Lesley is LMHC (Licensed Mental Health Counselor) certified with the state. Many many positions available are looking for an LMHC trained clinician. Many positions are also not caught up in this NY Recreational Therapist game we have to contend with. Since the school has worked with the state insurance board, all LMHC's are on track to get licensure, practice creative arts, be able to bill insurance, etc. Its odd that it is only three hours away, but worlds apart in the evolution of our trade. Honestly, my first impression from moving to Westchester is how behind the curve the employers in this area are with the idea that Expressive Arts are a useful tool to have with their clients/patients. I am not even touching upon the rigors, resistance and seemingly negative relationship CAT's have with the NY State Board. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: "NYCCATyahoogroups (DOT) com" <NYCCATyahoogroups (DOT) com> To: NYCCATyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:08:47 AM Subject: Digest Number 1684 The New York Coalition of Creative Arts Therapies (NYCCAT) The New York Coalition of Creative Arts Therapies (NYCCAT) Messages In This Digest (3 Messages) 1a. Creatice Arts Therapy Positions From: 1b. Re: Creatice Arts Therapy Positions From: 1c. Re: Creatice Arts Therapy Positions From: debbie stone View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Creatice Arts Therapy Positions Posted by: " " juliegalway@ yahoo.com juliegalway Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:59 am (PST) Dear All, I hope this finds everyone well. I've really enjoyed the insight I've had into how licensing works there, thanks to all the contributions. I'm concerned though, as I intend to return to New York with the goal of trying to find work as a creative arts therapist. I had to return to Europe (I'm a US citizen) to complete my MA, as I couldn't afford the cost of private tuition in the US. I found it difficult to to find information regarding whether my MA would be recognised in the States. I felt that the majority of Creative Arts Therapists I spoke with agreed I could practice but would have to get certified in the state I lived in. I would prefer to return to New York where I have friends and family. I could also relocate to another part of the US if opportunities were more plentiful. I could also further my education here in Europe if it's necessary to secure work in the States. I understand the economic climate isn't good at the moment. I appreciate the time you've taken to read this lengthy email and appreciate any advice offered. Dramatherapy trainee From: Tri-State Chapter <tristatechapter@ yahoo.com> Subject: Reminder - Dec 7th NYC Holiday Social To: "NADT" <LISTSERVLISTSERV (DOT) KSU.EDU>, "NYCCATlistserve" <NYCCAT@yahoogroups . com>, tristatechapter@ yahoogroups. com, "NYU" <nyudramatherapy@ yahoo.com> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 1:02 PM Just a friendly reminder about our upcoming Chapter meeting...Happy Thansgiving! PLEASE JOIN US... NADT's Tri-State Chapter invites you to attend our annual Holiday Social! Sunday, December 7 5:30pm-8:30pm 35 West 4th Street Room 303 We invite you to reflect on the past year look forward to 2009 among friends and colleagues. Refreshments will be provided - and please feel free to bring your favorite holiday treat to share! RSVP is encouraged (but not necessary) - tristatechapter@ yahoogroups. com We look forward to seeing you at the social! TRI-STATE CHAPTER Gaines, RDT, LCAT, MA, President Mark Beauregard, RDT, LCAT, MA, Vice President Peller, RDT, MA Recording Secretary Meredith Dean, MA, Corresponding Secretary Rees, RDT, MA, Treasurer Chloe Lara-Russack, Student Representative Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity a.. 1 New Files Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn. Yahoo! Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. Need to Reply? Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. 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We are also dedicated to enhancing public awareness of these artists' talents and concerns, their agencies' work, and on the use of art as a tool for healing, growth, and positive change Best-- Hurwitz, LPC, MSW, MA, ATR ************ **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolco m00000002) Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (9) 4. Responding to Member Questions Posted by: "brianamacwilliam" brianamacwilliam@... brianamacwilliam Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:19 pm (PST) To the Membership, Last week I introduced myself as a new member of the NYCCAT Board and indicated that I would bring before the board questions I have noted on the list serve and indicate on the list serve the board's input. Indeed these questions were addressed, and there was much to be said. Currently I am drafting a comprehensive "report" of what was discussed, and once completed and approved by the board members, I will share it with the membership.Thank you for your patience. Hope everyone had a safe and pleasant holiday weekend. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity 1 New Files Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn. Yahoo! Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Drive Traffic Sponsored Search can help increase your site traffic. Need to Reply? Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. Create New Topic | Visit Your Group on the Web Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar MARKETPLACE From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 hmmm... for some reason this never got posted. I hope this forward works, here's my answer from the other day! Kim Galway, LCAT, RDT-BCT Creative Therapy and Learning Center www.creativetherapykids.com CONFIDENTIAL OR PRIVILEGED: This communication contains information intended only for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. if you have received this in error, please notify the sender by telephone or by returning it via reply email and then permanently deleting the communication form your system. Thank you. Re: how to make space for us  Dear Kim, Which insurance companies are your clients submitting to? Walters Reminder - Dec 7th NYC Holiday Social To: "NADT" <LISTSERVLISTSERV (DOT) KSU.EDU>, "NYCCATlistserve" <NYCCAT@yahoogroups . com>, tristatechapter@ yahoogroups. com, "NYU" <nyudramatherapy@ yahoo.com> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 1:02 PM Just a friendly reminder about our upcoming Chapter meeting...Happy Thansgiving! PLEASE JOIN US... NADT's Tri-State Chapter invites you to attend our annual Holiday Social! Sunday, December 7 5:30pm-8:30pm 35 West 4th Street Room 303 We invite you to reflect on the past year look forward to 2009 among friends and colleagues. Refreshments will be provided - and please feel free to bring your favorite holiday treat to share! RSVP is encouraged (but not necessary) - tristatechapter@ yahoogroups. com We look forward to seeing you at the social! 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