Re: Re: Every Child By Two - why?

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It doesn't make any sense, does it? Last Friday, I finally got the vaccine exemption papers for my youngest kids. I wasn't looking forward to making the call, because I remembered too well how much the public health nurse hassled me the last time I tried to ask for the same papers a few years ago. I had to explain to her why I didn't want my kidney-damaged son to get thimerosal-containing vaccines. She had the audacity to tell me that he ought to get "with the program" because of his kidney problem, NOT KNOWING that thimerosal in vaccines can hamper or impede kidney function. Do your homework, and don't depend on the stuff you hear from health agencies. Aasa P.S., I was pleasantly surprised this time, ...the public health nurse gave me the exemption form with NO uncomfortable questions asked, AND she even attached notes about where to access Justices of the Peace to get these forms notarized for

FREE! Bless her soul! I love that woman, even though I never met her. She may not know it, but she made my trip to the immunology office - actually "pleasant".Whew!! Aasamerrywbee wrote: I'm also puzzled as to why in veterinary medicine, there seems to be a fair amount of willingness to accept the research that too many boosters are causing problems in dogs and cats, and that it is wiser to check titers and forego some

of the vaccinations if they are not needed. Every time I read an article in veterinary medicine, it just floors me because the CDC/FDA keeps screaming the opposite message when it comes to our kids. It's like Dr. Healy said, if you don't investigate the hypothesis because you don't like what the outcome might be, then what is that really saying about us and how we value our children? It's really puzzling.>> I wondered this morning if the idea behind "Every Child By Two" > was so to get the autism/Asperger's rate so high that they can claim > there is no epidemic because every child will have some form of the > disorder, which magically means that it ceases to be a real > "disorder" (what appears to have happened with hypothyroidism). > Still, I have a

hard time believing that they're really *that* evil*..> > It clearly is a response to 's rally, right down to the > "celebrity" at the middle of it (Peet - except that Peet is clearly > not at the middle of ECBT). With the (peer-reviewed?) evidence that > the BBB is not closed until about *two* (and what about the gut tight- > junctions?), it seems like what's needed is a campaign along the > lines of "Every Child *After* Two - Until then breastfeed! (and > supplement with zinc and A and D and all the rest of the things we > aren't getting enough of from our diet, and just put up with the > chickenpox and rotavirus if it happens).> > How stupid do they think we are? And I wonder how much further do > they *really* think they can push the human immune system before.. I > don't know - something worse than autism and SIDS happens.. (worse

> than SIDS? Who knows? Full-body autoimmunity? - > Syndrome (toxic epidermal necrolysis - as bad as it sounds)> > Jim>

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> I'm also puzzled as to why in veterinary medicine, there seems to be

> a fair amount of willingness to accept the research that too many

> boosters are causing problems in dogs and cats

>

And not in humans? One word - money... It's interesting you

mention vets, because when my older cat for boosters, I mentioned

over-vaccination (edging around the issue so to speak), and the vet

actually said that *she* thought that pets were getting too many, or

certainly were getting them too often, with no real prompting from me

about vaccinosis, etc.

This is the stray who has a grand-mal seizure (I think grand-mal -

certainly there is loss of consciousness and I think some amnesia

around too. I have no idea whether they were vaccine-induced -

fortunately they only happen from sleep)

I wonder how a ped would react if you marched into their office

with a 'newly autistic child' (horrible phrase), and announced you

thought they had suffered 'human vaccinosis'? Probably wouldn't even

know the word.

> and that it is wiser to check titers

>

They actually check titers? I mentioned this to the vet and they

admitted that the problem here is we have no idea really what is an

'appropriate' level of antibody repsonse. Then I just slipped in

something about us not really knowing if antibody response is a good

predictor (or any predictor) of cellular response..

> the CDC/FDA keeps screaming the opposite message when it comes to

> our kids

>

I read an article about how diabetic horses are given at least a

gram of cinnamon a day - as something in it is known to be an insulin

sensitizer/mimetic, or maybe have immune/beta-cell-proliferation

effects (I think I read something about it and NF-kB, although it's

not clear whether it's better to have NF-kB down- or up-regulated in

diabetes).. And I mentioned it on the (low-carb) diabetes board I

read, and the response was, " yeah, we treat our animals better than

we treat people " ..

Jim