Re: OT: What's this about Obama saying he doesn't support vax choice?

[Guest guest]

Spreading rumor. . .I looked on the AOA blog where this allegation was

made. There is nothing there of any substance that would make the

allegation worthy of repeating, IMO. Internet road kill.

Lenny

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> I saw on the AOA blog that a few commenters wrote about Obama saying at

> some fund-raiser that he didn't think vaccines should be a choice. Are

> there any direct witnesses to this, links or substantiations?

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[Guest guest]

Well that's interesting because the author of the article on AoA,

Claudine Liss, says in the first sentence that she was the one who

personally asked Obama the question and was standing there for the

answer...

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> > I saw on the AOA blog that a few commenters wrote about Obama

saying at

> > some fund-raiser that he didn't think vaccines should be a choice.

Are

> > there any direct witnesses to this, links or substantiations?

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[Guest guest]

Sad, really sad. Hope there's a huge press backlash to his statement

that shakes things up. I can dream.

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> Well that's interesting because the author of the article on AoA,

> Claudine Liss, says in the first sentence that she was the one who

> personally asked Obama the question and was standing there for the

> answer...

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>

[Guest guest]

Selective vaccination is not the opposite of forced vaccination. It

forces parents to choose medical care (vaccines are essentially drugs)

without complete information.

The alternative to forced vaccination isn't selective vaccination -

it's safe vaccination, it's vaccination with truth, it's vaccination

with complete information. Where else in medicine is it okay to

deliberately hide information for the " greater good? "

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> > Well that's interesting because the author of the article on AoA,

> > Claudine Liss, says in the first sentence that she was the one who

> > personally asked Obama the question and was standing there for the

> > answer...

> >

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[Guest guest]

I found this statement from Obama during primaries from A-Champ posted

on the AOA site. So I think we don't have all the facts just yet as

Lenny points out:

Would you support a federal right for families and individuals to

choose for themselves which vaccines they will use?

I support screening for a wide variety of diseases and disorders. Early

diagnosis and early intervention are the best practice for most

illnesses. I believe that every American has the right to access these

screenings, and I believe that every American has the right also to

refuse these screenings voluntarily if they so choose. I also support a

thorough

and independent review of our nation's vaccination policies.

Sharon

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> > I saw on the AOA blog that a few commenters wrote about Obama

saying at

> > some fund-raiser that he didn't think vaccines should be a choice.

Are

> > there any direct witnesses to this, links or substantiations?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The human body has a built-in power of immunity.

I demand the right to rely on that natural built-in power, rather than any concoctions being pushed down our throats or into our veins by

the so called "medical authorities", drug manufacturers, drug salesmen or anyone else who is out to make a buck.

Bob Catalano

www.medicine-no.com

Re: OT: What's this about Obama saying he doesn't support vax choice?

Selective vaccination is not the opposite of forced vaccination. It forces parents to choose medical care (vaccines are essentially drugs) without complete information. The alternative to forced vaccination isn't selective vaccination - it's safe vaccination, it's vaccination with truth, it's vaccination with complete information. Where else in medicine is it okay to deliberately hide information for the "greater good?" > >> > Well that's interesting because the author of the article on AoA,> > Claudine Liss, says in the first sentence that she was the one who> > personally asked Obama the question and was standing there for the> > answer...> > > >>

[Guest guest]

You can read and download the responses of Obama and Biden to the A-CHAMP questionnaire at our new web site;http://autismactionnetwork.orgOn Sep 8, 2008, at 12:29 PM, showell48 wrote:I found this statement from Obama during primaries from A-Champ posted on the AOA site. So I think we don't have all the facts just yet as Lenny points out:Would you support a federal right for families and individuals to choose for themselves which vaccines they will use?I support screening for a wide variety of diseases and disorders. Early diagnosis and early intervention are the best practice for most illnesses. I believe that every American has the right to access these screenings, and I believe that every American has the right also to refuse these screenings voluntarily if they so choose. I also support a thoroughand independent review of our nation's vaccination policies.Sharon> >> > I saw on the AOA blog that a few commenters wrote about Obama saying at > > some fund-raiser that he didn't think vaccines should be a choice. Are > > there any direct witnesses to this, links or substantiations?> >> J. KrakowLaw Office of J. Krakow, P.C.1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110Garden City, New York 11530 (NYC) (fax) (Mobile)rkrakow@...

[Guest guest]

Some Obama links of interest:

Side effects could be genetic

http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/local/article/0,2845,MCA_25340_5583098,00.ht\

ml

Genomics and Personalized Medicine Act. This bill, introduced by Sen.

Barack Obama, would establish an interagency working group to foster

research and the translation of that research into personalize

medicine. It would authorize $150 million for pharmacogenomics

research and translation of results into the clinical setting. It also

would provide a 100 percent tax credit for the development of these

tests—in effort to drive development quickly. The bill has workforce

provisions to train people in genetics and genomics. It also has

provisions related to the regulation of genomics and genetic tests.

http://www.nixonpeabody.com/publications_detail3.asp?ID=1461

Pandemic Flu Vaccination Program

http://obama.senate.gov/news/050606-grounding_a_pandemic/index.php

S. 1082 - On May 9, 2007, the Senate passed S. 1082, the Food and Drug

Administration Revitalization Act. The bill is focused primarily on

FDA and contains sections regarding user fees and drug safety

monitoring procedures. As amended, the bill also contains several

provisions of interest to NIH. First, the bill would expand the

Clinicaltrials.gov registry to include mandatory reporting of certain

drug and device clinical trials. The bill would also require that the

ClinicalTrials.gov website provide corresponding linkages to

peer-reviewed literature and certain publicly available FDA

information regarding the results of those trials. Second, S. 1082

includes provisions to reauthorize the Best Pharmaceuticals for

Children Act. Third, the bill contains provisions to expand research

on pediatric devices. Finally, an amendment offered by Senator Barack

Obama (D-IL) was added during floor debate, requiring the Secretary to

contract with the Institute of Medicine to make recommendations

regarding oversight and regulation of genetic tests. S. 1082 was

introduced on April 10, by Senator Kennedy (D-MA). See H.R.

2900. http://www.drugabuse.gov/DirReports/DirRep907/DirectorReport14.html

[Guest guest]

Yes, Obama does not answer the direct question, but does the weasle

dance. His response is about screening, but the question is not.

However, his anti-choice quote comes from only one source, Claudine

Liss, and the question she asked is not reproduced so that we can see

exactly what he is answering to. Before I would make any judgment,

for or against Obama on this, I would like to see corroborating

evidence of this position.

My hunch is that Obama will strive to seek some middle ground between

vaccine promoters and vaccine skeptics.

It is better politics to be pro autism, than it is to be anti-vaccine.

I suspect trying to force either candidate into an anti-vaccine corner

will produce unsatisfying results. Let us not forget that there are

far more people worried about autism, at the moment, than there are

people worried about vaccines; like it or not.

Lenny

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> > > I saw on the AOA blog that a few commenters wrote about Obama

> saying at

> > > some fund-raiser that he didn't think vaccines should be a choice.

> Are

> > > there any direct witnesses to this, links or substantiations?

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Well stated. Better even than being "pro autism" I am "pro child", specifically my own son (who has the label "autism" among other diagnoses) and those who are similarly situated.Yes, Obama does not answer the direct question, but does the weasledance. His response is about screening, but the question is not.However, his anti-choice quote comes from only one source, ClaudineLiss, and the question she asked is not reproduced so that we can seeexactly what he is answering to. Before I would make any judgment,for or against Obama on this, I would like to see corroboratingevidence of this position.My hunch is that Obama will strive to seek some middle ground betweenvaccine promoters and vaccine skeptics. It is better politics to be pro autism, than it is to be anti-vaccine.I suspect trying to force either candidate into an anti-vaccine cornerwill produce unsatisfying results. Let us not forget that there arefar more people worried about autism, at the moment, than there arepeople worried about vaccines; like it or not.Lenny> > >> > > I saw on the AOA blog that a few commenters wrote about Obama > saying at > > > some fund-raiser that he didn't think vaccines should be a choice. > Are > > > there any direct witnesses to this, links or substantiations?> > >> >> J. KrakowLaw Office of J. Krakow, P.C.1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110Garden City, New York 11530 (NYC) (fax) (Mobile)rkrakow@...

[Guest guest]

Until we have safe vaccinations, we should at the very least have a choice! Asking a politician to support safe vaccinations is letting him/her off too easy. Who wouldn't support safe vaccines?

jmo,

Lin

> > >> > > Well that's interesting because the author of the article on AoA,> > > Claudine Liss, says in the first sentence that she was the one who> > > personally asked Obama the question and was standing there for the> > > answer...> > > > > >> >>