Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 No kidding, Carolyn, I can relate. Can they say " Encephalitis " or even swelling of the brain? ? I doubt they could even say oxidative stress!! Sacramento, CA > > newsletter: http://tinyurl.com/4nd6fc and saw this, " It is unknown why children with autism have larger brains. " > > Heck, I know why my son had an episode of accelerated head growth and I'm not a clinition. He was vaccinated when I took him to the dr w/an almost 102 temp. His head was oversized at the next visit. > CGF > Kurt, Carolyn, and Little Kurt > Toledo, Ohio > visit http://www.asno.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 I am a little dubious about these head size measurements. When my kids were babies, their pediatrician measured their heads almost every "well baby visit", and there never seemed to be anything out of the ordinary. Aasa Subject: So, I was reading an article on head size in the AS...To: eoharm Received: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 3:34 AM newsletter: http://tinyurl. com/4nd6fc and saw this, "It is unknown why children with autism have larger brains." Heck, I know why my son had an episode of accelerated head growth and I'm not a clinition. He was vaccinated when I took him to the dr w/an almost 102 temp. His head was oversized at the next visit. CGF Kurt, Carolyn, and Little Kurt Toledo, Ohio visit http://www.asno. org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 I once had a therapist at my house working with my son...he was a TEACHH guy, didn't know anything about biomed. He lifted up my son's bangs and noted his veins in his forehead/temple area. He mentioned to me that every child with ASD he had worked with had veins you could see (not necessarily raised) in their forehead/temple area. HMMM...swelling of the brain? > > > > newsletter: http://tinyurl.com/4nd6fc and saw this, " It is unknown why children with > autism have larger brains. " > > > > Heck, I know why my son had an episode of accelerated head growth and I'm not a > clinition. He was vaccinated when I took him to the dr w/an almost 102 temp. His head > was oversized at the next visit. > > CGF > > Kurt, Carolyn, and Little Kurt > > Toledo, Ohio > > visit http://www.asno.org > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 > > I am a little dubious about these head size measurements. When my kids were babies, their pediatrician measured their heads almost every " well baby visit " , and there never seemed to be anything out of the ordinary. Me too. My DAN told me that my son (with autism) had a large head. And, it HAD registered in the 98th percentile throughout his first year. But, so had his height and weight. He is a big kid with big parents (his mother is 6' and dad is 6' 4 " ). My second NT unvaccinated son is the one who had the head circumference off the charts. And at the time - it terrified me after all you read about big heads and brains in kids with autism. But, he turned out just fine (he's 2 1/2 now). So, I don't know what to make of it... Much like the vein thing - my autistic son's teacher mentioned to me one day that he had a ridge in the middle of his forehead. I could feel it, too - but had never noticed it before (can't see it). She said that all of the autistic kids she worked with had the ridge. May be just coincidence, but I thought it was interesting. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 My humble opinion is that this speaks to the fact that our children are a diverse group- some have leaky gut, others suffer from viral issues, high candida, seizures, etc...but almost no two are uniform in their symptomology. So the neuroinflammation may not be a component in all cases...in my son's case, his head size was in the 90+ %, while his body size was more 50-70%- he looked like he had a " melon on a toothpick " - so I would say he may have had some issues there. But probably not all kids do, just as not all have measles in their guts. Just my 2 cents... > > > > I am a little dubious about these head size measurements. When my kids were babies, > their pediatrician measured their heads almost every " well baby visit " , and there never > seemed to be anything out of the ordinary. > > Me too. My DAN told me that my son (with autism) had a large head. And, it HAD registered > in the 98th percentile throughout his first year. But, so had his height and weight. He is a big > kid with big parents (his mother is 6' and dad is 6' 4 " ). My second NT unvaccinated son is the > one who had the head circumference off the charts. And at the time - it terrified me after all > you read about big heads and brains in kids with autism. But, he turned out just fine (he's 2 > 1/2 now). So, I don't know what to make of it... > > Much like the vein thing - my autistic son's teacher mentioned to me one day that he had a > ridge in the middle of his forehead. I could feel it, too - but had never noticed it before (can't > see it). She said that all of the autistic kids she worked with had the ridge. May be just > coincidence, but I thought it was interesting. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 > > > > > I am a little dubious about these head size measurements. When my > kids were babies, >their pediatrician measured their heads almost every " well baby >visit " , and there never >seemed to be anything out of the ordinary. And like anything else, there seems to be more than one 'thing' being grouped under the autism umbrella so it won't apply to everyone. But the head size thing is meaningful to me and my wife, because our son was diagnosed with cerebral palsy before autism - then they dropped the cp dx and changed the autism to pdd-nos. When he was originally diagnosed with CP they did an MRI and the ped. neurologist explained that his peripheral cerebral vesicles were enlarged (dilated) which interfered with his legs working properly. started walking just days before turning 2, and at 11 1/2 just learned to ride a bicycle this past w/e (yay!!) His head did look large to us though honestly I don't remember the doctors saying anything about it. His soft spot didn't close up for several years but finally did while still preschool age. Now he's got dry flaky skin on top of his head, as though his cradle cap never went away. Sound familiar to anyone out there? And finally, our son's situation is also different than most autism cases afaik because he had problems almost from birth - being hospitalized at 10 days of age for bronchitis. <sarcasm>Of course if you listen to the mercury nuts you might think that could have something to do with my wife being Rh-, but that can't be true, can it?</sarcasm> Marty -- Autism Homeschooler's discussion list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AutismHomeschool/ Drupal Development Blog: http://drupal.face2interface.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Kind of a no-brainer there. Both our kids looked like lollypops after a few series of vaccinations. They started out with big heads (familial benign macrocephaly, aka, big-headed family) but their heads then grew so much that even my mother freaked out-- even though she was quite accostomed to the trait and had formerly believed it bode high intelligence. > > newsletter: http://tinyurl.com/4nd6fc and saw this, " It is unknown why children with autism have larger brains. " > > Heck, I know why my son had an episode of accelerated head growth and I'm not a clinition. He was vaccinated when I took him to the dr w/an almost 102 temp. His head was oversized at the next visit. > CGF > Kurt, Carolyn, and Little Kurt > Toledo, Ohio > visit http://www.asno.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 This was the case with my son as well. He had a noticeable jump in head size between well baby visits, and his soft spot didn't close until he was 2 1/2...I just assumed it was encephalitis from the vaccines once I began researching vaccinations, and we discontinued vaccinations... I mean, doesn't it just seem a bit obvious???? Or is this just going to be another one of those "Autism just happens to show up at the same time as certain vaccines" stories??? I guess I already know the answer to that question-this morning when I came down for coffee I saw a news report about America having the most medicated children in the world, but they justified it by saying we have better abilities to diagnose. PUKE, Meg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 First of all, " CONGRATULATIONS, JOEL " !!! Ride that bike with all of your heart, kiddo...we're all proud of you!!! Marty, you mentioned that your son was affected from birth, but do you think the fact that he was hospitalized for 10 days with bronchitis might possibly have contributed to at least some of his health issues? Mercury in utero from the rhogam, then his Hepititis B, then a barrage of antibiotics for the first 10 days of his life. Who knows how the cummulative effects may have contributed to his overall health???? On the other hand, the antibiotics may have saved his life... who knows? I've talked to a few parents who don't believe in the vaccine- autism connection because their children were never vaccinated. Then I found out that one mom received Rhogam during her pregnancy and one had a preemie... so who knows what medication could have been administered that may have triggered autism? I know, it's hard to sort it all out. At any rate, it sounds like your little guy is a real figher! As far as the flaky scalp is concerned, have you looked into NAET? I don't know where you live, but one of the best Docs in the Country is Dr. Cheyl Leuthaeuser. She's located in Ohio, but sees patients as far away as California. Check out her website: www.integrativewellcare.com. You can e-mail her directly at drcheryl@.... > > > > > > I am a little dubious about these head size measurements. When my > > kids were babies, > >their pediatrician measured their heads almost every " well baby > >visit " , and there never > >seemed to be anything out of the ordinary. > > And like anything else, there seems to be more than one 'thing' being > grouped under the autism umbrella so it won't apply to everyone. But > the head size thing is meaningful to me and my wife, because our son > was diagnosed with cerebral palsy before autism - then they dropped > the cp dx and changed the autism to pdd-nos. > > When he was originally diagnosed with CP they did an MRI and the ped. > neurologist explained that his peripheral cerebral vesicles were > enlarged (dilated) which interfered with his legs working properly. > started walking just days before turning 2, and at 11 1/2 just > learned to ride a bicycle this past w/e (yay!!) > > His head did look large to us though honestly I don't remember the > doctors saying anything about it. His soft spot didn't close up for > several years but finally did while still preschool age. Now he's got > dry flaky skin on top of his head, as though his cradle cap never > went away. Sound familiar to anyone out there? > > And finally, our son's situation is also different than most autism > cases afaik because he had problems almost from birth - being > hospitalized at 10 days of age for bronchitis. > > <sarcasm>Of course if you listen to the mercury nuts you might think > that could have something to do with my wife being Rh-, but that > can't be true, can it?</sarcasm> > > Marty > > > -- > Autism Homeschooler's discussion list > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AutismHomeschool/ > Drupal Development Blog: http://drupal.face2interface.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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