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Micki,

Glad to hear your mom already seems to be improving. That's fantastic

and does happen sometimes, but remember, this is a 3 steps forward, 2

steps back treatment so if she suffers a setback (which I hope never

happens), don't get discouraged. As for the night sweats, that's a

pretty common thing and it will improve eventually, along with

everything else. And it was wise to cut back on the amount of Minocin

your mom was taking. Taking too much too fast can exacerbate a herx

reaction, plus increase the risk of side effects. The standard protocol

dose is 100 mg. Minocin 2X MWF and I wouldn't recommend exceeding that,

in fact, many people have to work up to being able to tolerate that

dosage. Just take it slow, be patient and keep up the good work.

a Peden

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> From: pryah@...

>

> Hello Everyone!

> Yoly so glad to here your doing so well!!...I took my mom to the Dr. on Friday

she has been doing so well for the last few days that we're almost certain that

the ap is working already! Could that be?? She was taking the antibiotics

every day for a while and started what we think was a herx...it lasted for three

days then I said for her to try it every other day and with in a couple of days

she started to improve. She was even able to twist her fore arms which she

hasn't been able to do for months and months! She still seems to be

improving...we're not getting our hopes up yet we know this is going to be a

long haul. I tried to get the Dr. to give her Mino with the Zitro,but he

wouldn't at this time...so she is on the Zitho mwf. She wanted to ask you guys

if any of you have a problem with night sweats...she will wake up just

drenched...this was happening before the AP too. Thanks to everyone for your

continuing support!! Micki

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From: Gillian Rowe:

" ...Now please tell me, do any of you have 'midnight sweats?'. "

Yes and I've ususally attributed them to the local fever,

especially in the skin on my legs because that's what comes

out from under the coverings first. But I've also woken with the

back of my neck (hair and nightshirt) damp.

If I'd mentioned it to my dr., I'd have been told it had to

do with " the change " since I'm in that age (58), but that doesn't

explain it after taking homrmone replacement for several years

or for those of you who are much younger!

It wouldn't hurt to have your hormones checked, however, because

we women can become " peri-menopausal " in our 30s.

" ... It also means that I have to change the bedding! "

Mine has never been that bad!!

" Perhaps it is just me? "

That's what a lazy dr. might say but you have too much company

for that to be true.

" Love and God Bless "

Ditto that from Patty Bacon in the frosty Pineywoods of East Texas

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Sweating is also the body's way of detoxification, especially when the

intestinal tract is not functionally to do its job of removing toxins from

the body...Joni

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>Subject: [ ] night sweats

>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:27:02 -0400

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> I remember someone posting about this.. What does night sweats mean?

Generally it means the body is detoxing from something it was exposed

to during the day.

Dana

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I'm sure it totally depends on the person, but for my son, it's a

sign of yeast. After a course of diflucan, when his body was free of

yeast for perhaps the first time ever, his night sweats totally

disappeared. They have come back only once, and it was during a yeast

flareup.

> I remember someone posting about this.. What does night sweats

mean? I

> have been waking up my son to give him charcoal at night... he is

always

> sweating. I have never noticed this before.

>

>

> Mom to 2 beautiful blue eyed boys - Noah (4, pdd and verbal

apraxia) and

> Luke (1, NT and unvaccinated)

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Dave;

I had night sweats for years. I was on one monthly shot 200mg for 16 years.

I would put a towell over my pillow and some mornings it would be soaked. Since

I now take weekly depo-t shots I have not had a night sweat since. I don't know

if it is from low T or high e2 but it is from an improper balance of one or the

other.

A doctor told me one time that was the body's way of ridding itself of poisions.

I don't know if that is true or not.

Kissie

Re: Just started Testin and I have a question.

>

>

>

>

>Dan and Jack,

>

>Thanks for the insight. As I said previously, I am now on day

>4 of the treatment and havent really felt any different yet.

>I'll sit tight for a few more weeks and see where I am at that time.

>

>As far as testing goes, I had my testosterone tested after

>some ongoing issues with decreased libedo, performance issues,

>night sweats. After some Google searching it kind of all came

>together. My test results are kind of confusing but the last

>line reads

>

>Testosterone, Total 242 L

>

>Oh, another question. What the heck do you guys do to mask

>that OVERPOWERING alcohal smell of the testim. Whew! Without

>a little cologne I would be tough to be around for a hour or so.

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>> I just started on Testin gel 4 days ago and was wonder how

>long I will

>> need to wait before I start seeing any results (ie increased libedo,

>> morning firmness, etc). Should I be seeing some results by now? If

>> not, how long?

>>

>> Just as background Im am 36, healthy and a testosterone level (pre

>> Testin) of 240.

>>

>> Any info is appreciated.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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INTERESTING.! WHEN YOU SWITCHED TO EVERY WEEK SHOTS HOW MUCH DID YOU INJECT.

EACH TIME?I

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BT SWEATING. i WOULD WAKE UP WITH A WET PILLOW.

GEORGE

kissie2004@... wrote:

Dave;

I had night sweats for years. I was on one monthly shot 200mg for 16 years.

I would put a towell over my pillow and some mornings it would be soaked. Since

I now take weekly depo-t shots I have not had a night sweat since. I don't know

if it is from low T or high e2 but it is from an improper balance of one or the

other.

A doctor told me one time that was the body's way of ridding itself of poisions.

I don't know if that is true or not.

Kissie

Re: Just started Testin and I have a question.

>

>

>

>

>Dan and Jack,

>

>Thanks for the insight. As I said previously, I am now on day

>4 of the treatment and havent really felt any different yet.

>I'll sit tight for a few more weeks and see where I am at that time.

>

>As far as testing goes, I had my testosterone tested after

>some ongoing issues with decreased libedo, performance issues,

>night sweats. After some Google searching it kind of all came

>together. My test results are kind of confusing but the last

>line reads

>

>Testosterone, Total 242 L

>

>Oh, another question. What the heck do you guys do to mask

>that OVERPOWERING alcohal smell of the testim. Whew! Without

>a little cologne I would be tough to be around for a hour or so.

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>> I just started on Testin gel 4 days ago and was wonder how

>long I will

>> need to wait before I start seeing any results (ie increased libedo,

>> morning firmness, etc). Should I be seeing some results by now? If

>> not, how long?

>>

>> Just as background Im am 36, healthy and a testosterone level (pre

>> Testin) of 240.

>>

>> Any info is appreciated.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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I think the night sweating comes from the roller coaster ride caused by large

shots and too long between shots.

Kissie

Re: Just started Testin and I have a question.

>

>

>

>

>Dan and Jack,

>

>Thanks for the insight. As I said previously, I am now on day

>4 of the treatment and havent really felt any different yet.

>I'll sit tight for a few more weeks and see where I am at that time.

>

>As far as testing goes, I had my testosterone tested after

>some ongoing issues with decreased libedo, performance issues,

>night sweats. After some Google searching it kind of all came

>together. My test results are kind of confusing but the last

>line reads

>

>Testosterone, Total 242 L

>

>Oh, another question. What the heck do you guys do to mask

>that OVERPOWERING alcohal smell of the testim. Whew! Without

>a little cologne I would be tough to be around for a hour or so.

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>> I just started on Testin gel 4 days ago and was wonder how

>long I will

>> need to wait before I start seeing any results (ie increased libedo,

>> morning firmness, etc). Should I be seeing some results by now? If

>> not, how long?

>>

>> Just as background Im am 36, healthy and a testosterone level (pre

>> Testin) of 240.

>>

>> Any info is appreciated.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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I don't know if it is from low T or high e2 but it is from an improper

balance of one or the other.------

I think it is high E2, but I suppose drastic changes/drops in almost

any hormone can probably cause a sudden episode of sweating.

Typically in menopausal women, hot flushes and night sweats are the

direct result of plummeting estrogen levels while testosterone

deprivation causes muscle aches, migraine headaches, worsening of

arthritis, low energy, brain fog, and libido problems (the same

symptoms men report).

I fixed the estrogen deficiency first and with it went the night

sweats, even though I was still without testosterone. The

testosterone deficiency persisted another 6-8 months until I could

finally get a doctor to prescribe 2% T gel.

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I still get them if I let my E2 go to high. And this will turn into panic

attacks if I let it get to high. I would wake up at like 3am soaked from head

to toe my heart would be racing and my chest would feel like a heavy weight was

on it and I had a hard time breathing. I would feel like I could not move

frozen because if I moved it got worse my skin would be so hot that I could not

let my legs touch they would feel like they were burning. I was given Xanix .25

mgs to help but it never did I would suffer like this for 1 to 3 hrs. Now when

it happens I can get it to stop in less then 30 min.by taking one half of an

Arimidex.

Phil

kissie2004@... wrote:

Dave;

I had night sweats for years. I was on one monthly shot 200mg for 16 years.

I would put a towell over my pillow and some mornings it would be soaked. Since

I now take weekly depo-t shots I have not had a night sweat since. I don't know

if it is from low T or high e2 but it is from an improper balance of one or the

other.

A doctor told me one time that was the body's way of ridding itself of poisions.

I don't know if that is true or not.

Kissie

Re: Just started Testin and I have a question.

>

>

>

>

>Dan and Jack,

>

>Thanks for the insight. As I said previously, I am now on day

>4 of the treatment and havent really felt any different yet.

>I'll sit tight for a few more weeks and see where I am at that time.

>

>As far as testing goes, I had my testosterone tested after

>some ongoing issues with decreased libedo, performance issues,

>night sweats. After some Google searching it kind of all came

>together. My test results are kind of confusing but the last

>line reads

>

>Testosterone, Total 242 L

>

>Oh, another question. What the heck do you guys do to mask

>that OVERPOWERING alcohal smell of the testim. Whew! Without

>a little cologne I would be tough to be around for a hour or so.

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>> I just started on Testin gel 4 days ago and was wonder how

>long I will

>> need to wait before I start seeing any results (ie increased libedo,

>> morning firmness, etc). Should I be seeing some results by now? If

>> not, how long?

>>

>> Just as background Im am 36, healthy and a testosterone level (pre

>> Testin) of 240.

>>

>> Any info is appreciated.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Kissie:

How much is " a whole Indoplex w/ Dim " ?

> Re: Night Sweats

>

>

>I went to 100 mg shots weekly. It was not enough for me. I

>still had ED. I went to 150mg weekly and cured the ED problem.

>Don't need Cialis now. 150mg has become too much now so I

>backed it down to 130mg weekly and all is working well.

>

>I also take a whole Indoplex w/ Dim and a 750mg TMG daily at

>dinner time as Dr prescribed. Kissie

> Re: Just started Testin and I

>have a question.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Dan and Jack,

> >

> >Thanks for the insight. As I said previously, I am now on day

> >4 of the treatment and havent really felt any different yet.

> >I'll sit tight for a few more weeks and see where I am at

>that time.

> >

> >As far as testing goes, I had my testosterone tested after

> >some ongoing issues with decreased libedo, performance issues,

> >night sweats. After some Google searching it kind of all came

> >together. My test results are kind of confusing but the last

> >line reads

> >

> >Testosterone, Total 242 L

> >

> >Oh, another question. What the heck do you guys do to mask

> >that OVERPOWERING alcohal smell of the testim. Whew! Without

> >a little cologne I would be tough to be around for a hour or so.

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >

> >> I just started on Testin gel 4 days ago and was wonder how

> >long I will

> >> need to wait before I start seeing any results (ie

>increased libedo,

> >> morning firmness, etc). Should I be seeing some

>results by now? If

> >> not, how long?

> >>

> >> Just as background Im am 36, healthy and a testosterone

>level (pre

> >> Testin) of 240.

> >>

> >> Any info is appreciated.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:02:29 -0000, you wrote:

>

>I don't know if it is from low T or high e2 but it is from an improper

>balance of one or the other.------

>

>I think it is high E2, but I suppose drastic changes/drops in almost

>any hormone can probably cause a sudden episode of sweating.

And I think it comes from low E2. That's why women experience it also

with menopause. IMHO.

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And I

think it comes from low E2. That's why women experience it also

with menopause. IMHO.----

You are right; this was a typo. I meant to write

" I think it is LOW E2... " (which of course fits with the context of

the rest of my message as it relates to menopause.)

The sharp fall of estrogen associated with menopause is definitely

the most common cause, and appears to be unrelated to the

simultaneous fall in testosterone (at least in my case).

But that doesn't necessarily mean that low estrogen is the only

hormonal change that might cause this side effect.

Phil's experience with arimidex dispelling his symptoms suggest that

high E2 can cause night sweats. And when large doses of progesterone

are taken for fertility purposes, this too has the side effect of hot

flashes. So it is plausible that any drastic hormonal change might

result in this reaction.

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> Max has recently started having night sweats, (he will be eight in

January),

> and although he is still a restless sleeper, he no longer wakes up

three or

> more times a night. But for the last few months, even if he has

only been

> in bed an hour or two, he breaks out in a heavy sweat, and the

sheets are

> actually damp. Anybody else have this?

This is a common symptom of the body detoxing from something it has

encountered during the day. Have you done anything new recently? He

might not tolerate it.

It also may be that his body is now functioning better, so it is able

to detox from all the daily assaults, so whereas previously he did not

sweat, now he does.

Dana

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Not to take away from the awful sensation of a night sweat, but is it

possible his body is naturally trying to sweat out a toxin and at

night is the most logical time for it. Mercury and Copper, both

common in autistic/aspie kids comes out very nicely by sweating, which

is why so many people have far infrared saunas. Perhaps his sweats

are a good thing? Just food for thought.

Grip

>

> Max has recently started having night sweats, (he will be eight in

January),

> and although he is still a restless sleeper, he no longer wakes up

three or

> more times a night. But for the last few months, even if he has

only been

> in bed an hour or two, he breaks out in a heavy sweat, and the

sheets are

> actually damp. Anybody else have this?

>

>

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Thanks for the respones, he is probably detoxing from something. My family

doctor is an internist (who admits she knows little about autism, and we

have no autism specialists closer than 80 miles, and no pediatricians within

30 miles). She insisted on giving him a flu shot at his well-check up a

month ago. He has had four " meltdowns " since then, one where I actually had

to hold him tightly until he settled down. I called her the other day and

asked what was in the flu vaccine; was there thimerasol in it. She said no,

then I asked her to check the label. She came back and said yes. I just

about flipped, and I am changing doctors. I thought thimerasol was supposed

to have been taken out of flu vaccines years ago.(?) Her response was the

vaccince couldn't possibly be causing his meltdowns, but he hasn't had

tantrums like this for a couple of years.

Re: Night sweats

>

>> Max has recently started having night sweats, (he will be eight in

> January),

>> and although he is still a restless sleeper, he no longer wakes up

> three or

>> more times a night. But for the last few months, even if he has

> only been

>> in bed an hour or two, he breaks out in a heavy sweat, and the

> sheets are

>> actually damp. Anybody else have this?

>

>

> This is a common symptom of the body detoxing from something it has

> encountered during the day. Have you done anything new recently? He

> might not tolerate it.

>

> It also may be that his body is now functioning better, so it is able

> to detox from all the daily assaults, so whereas previously he did not

> sweat, now he does.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Max has recently started having night sweats, (he will be eight in

January),

> and although he is still a restless sleeper, he no longer wakes up

three or

> more times a night. But for the last few months, even if he has

only been

> in bed an hour or two, he breaks out in a heavy sweat, and the

sheets are

> actually damp. Anybody else have this?

>

>

Hello ,

Our 9 year old, BSAD (Aspgr or PDD-NOS), has had night sweats

and " nap sweats " , all of his life. These are not just a case

of " some kids just sweat more " as I was told; it is a dramatic,

sudden sweat, that will dampen blankets and hair.

I know another woman who couldn't find medical explanations either,

for concerns she voiced when her Autistic son did this, even in day

time.

If it makes you feel any better, we have specifically brought this

symptom to the attention of many specialists, who have not found a

cause, or certain explanation. My husband and some of the MDs

mentioned, think it may be some type of autonomic response of his

central nervous system, similar to the lowering in blood pressure a

person gets just before they faint, (there's a name for it, but I

can't think of it now), but they can't say for certain.

We are frustrated to have no explanation as to cause, yet I think

night sweating, and possible causes were mentioned on this web site,

or on some links, at least once in the few months I've been reading.

Somewhere, I read about a metabolic possibility, but I'll let that to

others who may be able to help both of us with this.

Sincerely,

Barbara Ann

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> Max has recently started having night sweats, (he will be eight in

January),

> and although he is still a restless sleeper, he no longer wakes up

three or

> more times a night. But for the last few months, even if he has

only been

> in bed an hour or two, he breaks out in a heavy sweat, and the

sheets are

> actually damp. Anybody else have this?

>

>

Hello ,

Our 9 year old, BSAD (Aspgr or PDD-NOS), has had night sweats

and " nap sweats " , all of his life. These are not just a case

of " some kids just sweat more " as I was told; it is a dramatic,

sudden sweat, that will dampen blankets and hair.

I know another woman who couldn't find medical explanations either,

for concerns she voiced when her Autistic son did this, even in day

time.

If it makes you feel any better, we have specifically brought this

symptom to the attention of many specialists, who have not found a

cause, or certain explanation. My husband and some of the MDs

mentioned, think it may be some type of autonomic response of his

central nervous system, similar to the lowering in blood pressure a

person gets just before they faint, (there's a name for it, but I

can't think of it now), but they can't say for certain.

We are frustrated to have no explanation as to cause, yet I think

night sweating, and possible causes were mentioned on this web site,

or on some links, at least once in the few months I've been reading.

Somewhere, I read about a metabolic possibility, but I'll let that to

others who may be able to help both of us with this.

Sincerely,

Barbara Ann

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>>She insisted on giving him a flu shot at his well-check up a

> month ago. He has had four " meltdowns " since then, one where I

actually had

> to hold him tightly until he settled down. I called her the other

day and

> asked what was in the flu vaccine; was there thimerasol in it. She

said no,

> then I asked her to check the label. She came back and said yes.

Yes, flu shots contain thimerosal. Try giving him lots of vitamin C

[as much as you can give without diarrhea] and 100mcg selenium per day.

>>I just

> about flipped, and I am changing doctors.

Good. And don't let any other doctor " force " you to give any more

vaccinations.

>> I thought thimerasol was supposed

> to have been taken out of flu vaccines years ago.(?)

Nope, flu shots still contain thimerosal, but there is a " trend "

towards removing it, as an " option " [still will have shots with

thimerosal, but you will be able to request one without, at higher cost].

Dana

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The affects of vacs/shots greatly well make a child

aggressive/meltdowns, this I believe is due to the gi/brain

connection/damage/pain. I truely believe with my son it could have

been also pancreatic pain. Also wanted to mention that the thermasol

is just the top of the iceberg when it comes to nuero toxins in

vacs, ie. anti freeze, formaldihyde(sp), aluminum, etc. Really work

on the intestinal healing, like Dana mentioned, vit. C etc. this in

turn well better the neuro also!One cannot function proporally with

out the (gi/brain working in healthy order together) At one point

with our son we couldnt even hold him when his episodes/meltdowns

was bad, we had to lay him on pillows until he got through it or we

would get cracked noses/ black eyes etc(I did get those sometimes

but it was worth being able to help comfort my son). We knew this

was a pain affect/expression coming from him(non verbal), better

improved gi(took months to get docs to listen and self treatments

for him) and this type of behaiviour(or it should be said,

expression of pain) completely stopped(rare now). Jennie<><

> >>She insisted on giving him a flu shot at his well-check up a

> > month ago. He has had four " meltdowns " since then, one where I

> actually had

> > to hold him tightly until he settled down. I called her the

other

> day and

> > asked what was in the flu vaccine; was there thimerasol in it.

She

> said no,

> > then I asked her to check the label. She came back and said yes.

>

>

> Yes, flu shots contain thimerosal. Try giving him lots of vitamin

C

> [as much as you can give without diarrhea] and 100mcg selenium per

day.

>

>

> >>I just

> > about flipped, and I am changing doctors.

>

>

> Good. And don't let any other doctor " force " you to give any more

> vaccinations.

>

>

> >> I thought thimerasol was supposed

> > to have been taken out of flu vaccines years ago.(?)

>

>

> Nope, flu shots still contain thimerosal, but there is a " trend "

> towards removing it, as an " option " [still will have shots with

> thimerosal, but you will be able to request one without, at higher

cost].

>

> Dana

>

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That's a sign of diabetes ... maybe you should have that checked out. My

friends autistic son also has diabetes and it started with night sweats.

Melinda

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From: " bergendee " <barbariska@...>

>

> Max has recently started having night sweats, (he will be eight in

January),

> and although he is still a restless sleeper, he no longer wakes up

three or

> more times a night. But for the last few months, even if he has

only been

> in bed an hour or two, he breaks out in a heavy sweat, and the

sheets are

> actually damp. Anybody else have this?

>

>

Hello ,

Our 9 year old, BSAD (Aspgr or PDD-NOS), has had night sweats

and " nap sweats " , all of his life. These are not just a case

of " some kids just sweat more " as I was told; it is a dramatic,

sudden sweat, that will dampen blankets and hair.

I know another woman who couldn't find medical explanations either,

for concerns she voiced when her Autistic son did this, even in day

time.

If it makes you feel any better, we have specifically brought this

symptom to the attention of many specialists, who have not found a

cause, or certain explanation. My husband and some of the MDs

mentioned, think it may be some type of autonomic response of his

central nervous system, similar to the lowering in blood pressure a

person gets just before they faint, (there's a name for it, but I

can't think of it now), but they can't say for certain.

We are frustrated to have no explanation as to cause, yet I think

night sweating, and possible causes were mentioned on this web site,

or on some links, at least once in the few months I've been reading.

Somewhere, I read about a metabolic possibility, but I'll let that to

others who may be able to help both of us with this.

Sincerely,

Barbara Ann

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> Hi

>

> Re head sweats.

>

> Our dietitian says it is a sign of PST deficiency. Our son used to

saturate

> the pillow nightly. He never does now

>

> Good luck

>

> :-)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Our dietitian says it is a sign of PST deficiency.

What does PST mean?

Hi Barbara Ann

PST stands for phenolsulphotransferase - an important chemical in a number

of cycles concerning salicylates and sulphation. Significant numbers of ASD

kids are deficient in it. Treatment includes Epsom salt baths and reduction

in foods containing salicylates.

Good luck

:-)

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