Re: Re: list of Docs -shoemaker or Lieberman

[Guest guest]

This is some of the best advise, and this is why I ALLWAYS listened and learned

from you!   There is no one size that fits all.  We all have are own eco systems

and each one completely different from the other.

I think this also applys to Dr's, Some poeple have had to switch Dr's becuase

some treatment is not aggressive enough.  or personality conflicts.  The best

thing we can do is list all the Dr's.  Most now are following Shoemakeers

protocol,   So here's my short list of doc's who treat to heal.

Shoemaker of course,

Dr grace Ziem, she's great if your mold and MCS

Dr jennette Hope,  (she's very good)  Mold patient herself

Dr Gray AZ, My favorite!!

Dr in Austin, Neurosurgeon for along time, figured he could help

patients with out surgery.  treats a lot of lyme patients to.  Has a patent on a

CNS test.

Thats my 2 cents

From: who <jeaninem660@...>

Subject: [] Re: shoemaker or Lieberman

Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 8:00 AM

 

I'm putting in my 2 cents on this one.

no.1 get out of the conaminated environment.

no. 2 advoidence, advoidence,advoiden ce.

no. 3 deep cleasing of sinus, and if you are haveing stomach and bowel problems,

get some food intolerance and allergy testing done.

only eat fresh foods, no canned,no corn, no cerals,grains.

mainly green veggies and white meat. wait several months and after you gain some

type of control over stomach problems, introduce something back in and see if it

affects you, possably even a day later. if it does, forget about eating it for a

long time.

no. 4 dont asume that you or anybody else can say that what worked for them

well work for you. no ecposure is the smie,

no one is damaged to the same levels, some well recover by just getting out with

a little time, some well not recover no matter what they try.

and this is true and even our own need to realize that even though they were

miserable and think they were the worst, theres always those that were damage in

ways that aren't going to heal or go away.

by toutting that one has the cure all, it's cutting out the ines that are

severly damaged. some have varely escaped death and may end up dieing from it

anyway. I really hate it when prople clain they have all the answers based on

their exposure and their recovery.

it just doesn't work that way.

I am against movies being made based on one persons experience becaouse that

pits us all in that bracket and thats just not true.

the end......... ...

>

> There are a lot of people on this board who know what has worked for them

> to get better. Much of it does not involve pharmaceuticals. I think it

> would be a good idea for people to share what has worked for them and then

> put this info in an organized manner. So that others can see what people have

> done.

>

> It wouldn't be giving medical advice or telling another what THEY should do

> to get better. It would simply be a sharing of what others know.

> Infra-red saunas, oxygen, vinager, garlic, enzymes, vegetable juices with

> antifungal properties, etc. Collectively, we know a lot!

>

>

> In a message dated 8/1/2009 11:32:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> dragonflymcs@ ... writes:

>

>

> Some just cannot get treatment from EI's Drs. Even if you have

> insurance there is no guarantee they will pay for them, or that it is

covered.

>

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

>