Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 >-Benedict is a nice >scientific two stage process, one that's seemed to work for me. >These numbers aren't gospel, but should give you a good starting >point. I agree, and tracking calories/portions/journalling has worked best for me. Another method is to chart how many calories you are eating now, and cut back by 300 calories a day. It's easier for me now on the Warrior Diet, because the daytime foods are really low in calories, and all my calories are in a big meal which is really satisfying (and personally I find it hard to overeat in one meal). Also, re the recent article on internally-produced Vitamin D and fat gain, and some other stuff I've read, I think part of the " starvation mode " problem might be lack of protein and calcium. I'm experimenting by snacking more on fish-rich kimchi ... calories matter but it is also important to get foods that WORK for you. If you eat foods that give you an insulin reaction, you will get too hungry. If you eat foods that you are allergic to, you will get a cortisol reaction and get REALLY hungry, plus your body wants to store fat then. Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 In a message dated 10/27/04 5:43:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jopollack2001@... writes: > In my case however, my weight gain is purely around my > middle, making me more of an apple shape. If it was a > healthy weight gain, it should be going on my hips and > thighs to make me a pear. ____ ~~~~> I had a pear-shaped teacher once in high school-- trust me, you don't want that. Shoot for an hour-glass instead (and an ass like a bowl of Jello, if you want :-) ) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 In a message dated 10/28/04 11:20:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, teresa.blazey@... writes: > Dr. Cowan says eat no more than 70 grams of carbohydrate a day. ____ ~~~~> For everyone, for women, or for people who want to lose weight? For my life style, that's insanely ridiculous. Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 In a message dated 10/28/04 2:26:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, slethnobotanist@... writes: > I agree with this wholeheartedly. I also wonder about > this " media image. " Most men I know do not at all like > this " media image. " So if women think that makes them > attractive to another man then perhaps they are being > sold a bill of goods. > > Back when I was working around both male and female > models, the general consensus among the guys was that > the women were WAYYYYYYYY to skinny no matter how > pretty their faces. ____________ ~~~~~~> Too skinny is pretty gross. I like enough muscle on the arms for some lateral tricep head definition and some shape to the bicep (not ripped, just some shape), a little bit of fat on the stomach for a cute little belly (not rolls, just a slim little belly), and a butt that does a little shaking. Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 In a message dated 10/28/04 5:05:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, slethnobotanist@... writes: > I see you were checking out Suze at the conference ;-) ____ ~~~~> Guess you're not the jealous type, huh? ;-) _____ > (although her butt is pretty hard these days) ____ ~~~~~>'s got a little Jello going. Nuttin' wrong wit dat. (Doesn't the " jello " make the boys say " hello " or something like that?) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Uh, sorry, that was a recommendation for a person--a woman, in my case (don't know the number he'd give for a man)--wishing to lose weight. B. He's got a chapter on it in his book and recommendations are (among others) no grain only sweetener up to a T of honey/day 2T coconut oil melted into water or tea 20 minutes before meals meals 3 times/day--no snacking. I think the original question was how not to gain on NT diet, though, not weight loss. 70 grams carbs or less/day is how I do it. On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:51:59 EDT, chrismasterjohn@... <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: > > In a message dated 10/28/04 11:20:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > teresa.blazey@... writes: > > > Dr. Cowan says eat no more than 70 grams of carbohydrate a day. > ____ > > ~~~~> For everyone, for women, or for people who want to lose weight? For my > life style, that's insanely ridiculous. > > Chris > > ____ > > " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a > heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and > animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them > make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, > which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of > the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray > ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those > who do them wrong. " > > --Saint Isaac the Syrian > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 --- Blazey <teresa.blazey@...> wrote: > Dr. Cowan says eat no more than 70 grams of > carbohydrate a day. You > can chart it on > > Fitday.com > > Milk definitely runs the numbers up, at least for > me. > > B. > This sounds like Dr. Lutz's, Life Without Bread. Hmmmm...tried that. Think I will stick with the WD, LOL! I mean after all, WHAT ABOUT BEER? <weg> ===== Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 At 05:11 PM 10/28/04 EDT, you wrote: > >In a message dated 10/28/04 5:05:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >slethnobotanist@... writes: > >> I see you were checking out Suze at the conference ;-) >____ > >~~~~> Guess you're not the jealous type, huh? ;-) >_____ > >> (although her butt is pretty hard these days) > >____ > >~~~~~>'s got a little Jello going. Nuttin' wrong wit dat. > >(Doesn't the " jello " make the boys say " hello " or something like that?) > >Chris I am SOOOOOOOOO glad I didn't spend as much time there as I'd originally planned. MFJ I wanna live! I wanna explore the Universe! And I wanna eat pie! ~Urgo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Must be jelly cuz jam don't shake like that. had to be said. B. On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:43:59 -0400, F. Jewett <mfjewett@...> wrote: > > At 05:11 PM 10/28/04 EDT, you wrote: > > > >In a message dated 10/28/04 5:05:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >slethnobotanist@... writes: > > > >> I see you were checking out Suze at the conference ;-) > >____ > > > >~~~~> Guess you're not the jealous type, huh? ;-) > >_____ > > > >> (although her butt is pretty hard these days) > > > >____ > > > >~~~~~>'s got a little Jello going. Nuttin' wrong wit dat. > > > >(Doesn't the " jello " make the boys say " hello " or something like that?) > > > >Chris > > I am SOOOOOOOOO glad I didn't spend as much time there as I'd originally > planned. > > MFJ > I wanna live! I wanna explore the Universe! And I wanna eat pie! > ~Urgo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 This is the first intelligent comment on weight in this entire thread. Good for you Aven. As for me, I will just keep trying to keep on the weight I have. Still working on that nutrient dense food... I have decided that there are no nutrients in Southwest Idaho, and everything here is local... going to have to have my nutrients shipped in! >Now I'm heavier, eating >really good foods, and I feel good physically >and mentally. Now I think that the whole >concept of picking your goal weight >is wrong. If you eat right, your body will >settle at a healthy weight for you. >Would anybody try to pick a HEIGHT and >struggle to achieve it? > >Aven _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I'm actually following Weight Watchers while eating an NT diet because i am much too overweight (about 40 pounds) and needed some outside help and structure. I have learned how much less i need to eat than i originally thought. Also, i think for those of us who are used to high-carb/low fat diets, or veganism, etc., we want to eat until we fill full (so as not to starve within 45 minutes). With a more nutrient dense diet you don't need to get to that full filling. Naturally thin women eat amazingly little compared to me! Elaine > This is the first intelligent comment on weight in this entire thread. Good > for you Aven. As for me, I will just keep trying to keep on the weight I > have. Still working on that nutrient dense food... I have decided that there > are no nutrients in Southwest Idaho, and everything here is local... going > to have to have my nutrients shipped in! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Elaine, I am actually a whopping 110 pounds at 5'6 " . I have to strive to keep that much weight on... I still out eat most everyone I know...growing teenagers, men... But I have always followed a " healthy " diet... I have always been low fat, lots of fresh fruits and veggies... and struggled to keep my weight on. Even my top weight in my three pregnencies was a whopping 135. I have recently learned that raw fat is the key... it is how our bodies stay moisturized (no more hair, skin, or nail problems... no lotion or conditioner needed), it is what our bodies need for fuel ( lots more energy now), and it should be the main component to our diets. This is not to say FAT is good... but only the RAW FAT is NEEDED... and that is how to get the weight under control, and health going in the right direction. Make sure that your homemade butter is never cooked! Drink/ eat that cream without any heat being added! Enjoy that full fat raw milk! Eat your eggs raw, and enjoy the coconut...raw! Fat in our bodies actually collect the toxins and store them in a way that they do not further damage our bodies... Raw fat in our diet will help flush out those toxins so that there is no need to store them! And cooked fat sticks in our veins clogging things up and causing problems...not so with the raw fat. >From: Elaine <itchyink@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: weight >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:51:05 -0700 > >I'm actually following Weight Watchers while eating an NT diet because i am >much too overweight (about 40 pounds) and needed some outside help and >structure. I have learned how much less i need to eat than i originally >thought. Also, i think for those of us who are used to high-carb/low fat >diets, or veganism, etc., we want to eat until we fill full (so as not to >starve within 45 minutes). With a more nutrient dense diet you don't need >to >get to that full filling. Naturally thin women eat amazingly little >compared >to me! >Elaine > > This is the first intelligent comment on weight in this entire thread. >Good > > for you Aven. As for me, I will just keep trying to keep on the weight I > > have. Still working on that nutrient dense food... I have decided that >there > > are no nutrients in Southwest Idaho, and everything here is local... >going > > to have to have my nutrients shipped in! > > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 > Re: weight > > > > >--- ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote: > >> In a message dated 10/28/04 5:05:21 PM Eastern >> Daylight Time, >> slethnobotanist@... writes: >> >> > I see you were checking out Suze at the conference >> ;-) >> ____ >> >> ~~~~> Guess you're not the jealous type, huh? ;-) >> _____ >> > >Nawww....looooooooooook all you want....hehehe > >> > (although her butt is pretty hard these days) >> >> ____ >> >> ~~~~~>'s got a little Jello going. Nuttin' >> wrong wit dat. > >Well you know I started to mention that but didn't >think a night without dinner and sleeping on the porch >would be all that fun ;-0 > > > Ve-rrrr-y funny. Somebody might take you seriously. We already discussed 's butt before but feel free to continue discussing it here, although I doubt *she'd* be thrilled about it. hehe <g> Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 > Re: weight > > > > >--- ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote: > >> In a message dated 10/27/04 5:43:10 PM Eastern >> Daylight Time, >> jopollack2001@... writes: >> >> > In my case however, my weight gain is purely >> around my >> > middle, making me more of an apple shape. If it >> was a >> > healthy weight gain, it should be going on my >> hips and >> > thighs to make me a pear. >> ____ >> >> ~~~~> I had a pear-shaped teacher once in high >> school-- trust me, you don't >> want that. Shoot for an hour-glass instead (and an >> ass like a bowl of Jello, >> if you want :-) ) >> >> Chris > >I see you were checking out Suze at the conference ;-) >(although her butt is pretty hard these days) > > > Hey, hey there! Let's just stick to discussing *'s* butt since she's not here to defend herself. Leave my butt out of this! Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 > RE: weight > > >My suspicion is >> that a lot of women are underweight, but we think >> we're normal or even fat, >> due to the media image of normal weight. When we >> start eating nutrient dense >> foods, our bodies gratefully grab hold and start >> rebuilding. > >I agree with this wholeheartedly. I also wonder about >this " media image. " Most men I know do not at all like >this " media image. " So if women think that makes them >attractive to another man then perhaps they are being >sold a bill of goods. > >Back when I was working around both male and female >models, the general consensus among the guys was that >the women were WAYYYYYYYY to skinny no matter how >pretty their faces. I don't know if it's a regional thing, but if you bust open the personal ads in my area the majority of the men's ads that mention anything about figure say they are looking for a " slim " or " slender " woman. Some men out there clearly go for the media image. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 > Re: weight > > > > >--- Blazey <teresa.blazey@...> wrote: > >> Must be jelly cuz jam don't shake like that. >> >> had to be said. >> B. >> > >Hmmmm...so are you a jelly or jam girl? Truth be known >Sir Mix A Lot was telling the truth.... " OH MY GOD >BECKY, LOOK AT THAT BUTT! " > >Yup, that had to be said too ;-) > > Hunh...OK. I was gonna let you go on the comment about 's butt, but since you are openly asking another woman about the firmness of her butt right in front of me, it's no dinner and the porch for you after all, mister! It's going to be in the 20's tonight...wish you were here. Yup, *that* had to be said too. <weg> Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 , although I have read lots on the benefits of raw foods i never looked at raw vs. cooked fat this way. Where did you read this? That's very interesting, especially the bit about flushing toxins as opposed to storing them. I try to get my 3 tb of VCO a day, although i have been skimming the cream off my milk/kefir. But I can't resist raw butter! I will try to make sure i get more of my fat raw, just to see what happens. Elaine > > I have recently learned that raw fat is the key... it is how our bodies stay > moisturized (no more hair, skin, or nail problems... no lotion or > conditioner needed), it is what our bodies need for fuel ( lots more energy > now), and it should be the main component to our diets. This is not to say > FAT is good... but only the RAW FAT is NEEDED... and that is how to get the > weight under control, and health going in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 At 02:32 PM 10/28/04 -0700, you wrote: >--- " F. Jewett " <mfjewett@...> wrote: > >> Oh no, I know better than to take on the Brix Queen, >> I'm not going there! >> > >Hmmmm...well you know the title " Brix Queen " was >originally addressed to Suze in a very testy and not >so flattering post, but you know I kind of like it but >with the alternate pronunciation ( " brie " instead of > " bricks " ) > > Okay, but ... if she's gonna be the Brie Queen, can she do a decent Child imitation? MFJ I wanna live! I wanna explore the Universe! And I wanna eat pie! ~Urgo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 In a message dated 10/28/04 10:22:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, s.fisher22@... writes: > Hey, hey there! Let's just stick to discussing *'s* butt since she's > not here to defend herself. Leave my butt out of this! _____ ~~~~> Don't worry-- muscle's only tough when you're using it. You can get a good shake out of it if you aren't climbing the stairs. Bulk it up a bit more, and then it's all about knowing how to move it. I wonder if Beyonce gives lessons... I bet they would cost a lot. Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 In a message dated 10/28/04 10:24:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, s.fisher22@... writes: > I don't know if it's a regional thing, but if you bust open the personal ads > in my area the majority of the men's ads that mention anything about figure > say they are looking for a " slim " or " slender " woman. Some men out there > clearly go for the media image. ____ ~~~~~> Personal ads are short in space, so who knows what they mean? I would describe the body type I find most attractive as " slim " and " slender " as well, but I would object to " skinny. " There's a LOT of overweight people out there, and the chances of getting a fat person in a personal ad are probably much greater than getting a girl who's too skinny (even if most models are, most models are taken out of a *tiny* fraction of the population!), so it would probably mean erring on the side of safety to say in those few words that you want a " slender " woman than you want " a woman who isn't too skinny. " Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 In a message dated 10/28/04 10:33:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, s.fisher22@... writes: > Hunh...OK. I was gonna let you go on the comment about 's butt, but > since you are openly asking another woman about the firmness of her butt > right in front of me, it's no dinner and the porch for you after all, > mister! It's going to be in the 20's tonight...wish you were here. > > Yup, *that* had to be said too. <weg> _____ ~~~~> That's the problem with indoor pets. Are you going to build him a dog house? -- the trouble maker (sorry :-) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 --- Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote: > >I agree with this wholeheartedly. I also wonder > about > >this " media image. " Most men I know do not at all > like > >this " media image. " So if women think that makes > them > >attractive to another man then perhaps they are > being > >sold a bill of goods. > > > >Back when I was working around both male and female > >models, the general consensus among the guys was > that > >the women were WAYYYYYYYY to skinny no matter how > >pretty their faces. > > > I don't know if it's a regional thing, but if you > bust open the personal ads > in my area the majority of the men's ads that > mention anything about figure > say they are looking for a " slim " or " slender " > woman. Some men out there > clearly go for the media image. Well if I was running an ad I would put the same thing but not because I go for the " media image. " When I was DJaying and modeling I was on the east coast. When I was (and still) on the west coast men's preferences from my experience seem to run the same way. I can't prove it but I have a feeling this is one of those myths versus reality things. I know some men who like skinny but they were few and far between. And I've had countless conversations with women who think they are too big even when their man is telling them otherwise. The usual retort is " well *I* like to be smaller. " Sure, but that is not necessarily what most men like despite the media portrayal. ===== Kick the Habit: Don't Vote! http://tinyurl.com/439vl Eat fat, get thin... lift big, get small. " They told just the same, That just because a tyrant has the might By force of arms to murder men downright And burn down house and home and leave all flat They call the man a captain, just for that. But since an outlaw with his little band Cannot bring half such mischief on the land Or be the cause of so much harm and grief, He only earns the title of a thief. " --Geoffrey Chaucer, The Manciple's Tale __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Elaine, I have " played " with the importance of fats ever since I found information on mercola.com about it. I read about the raw fat distinction directly in Aajonus Vonderplanitz's books (primaldiet.com). Although I have not been able to find any medical studies that have actually tested this (yet), I have found pieces of it everywhere I look, and I can see the difference in myself and my family (whom I lovingly call my guinea pigs!). I hope it helps! L. --- In , Elaine <itchyink@s...> wrote: > , although I have read lots on the benefits of raw foods i never looked > at raw vs. cooked fat this way. Where did you read this? That's very > interesting, especially the bit about flushing toxins as opposed to storing > them. I try to get my 3 tb of VCO a day, although i have been skimming the > cream off my milk/kefir. But I can't resist raw butter! I will try to make > sure i get more of my fat raw, just to see what happens. > Elaine > > > > I have recently learned that raw fat is the key... it is how our bodies stay > > moisturized (no more hair, skin, or nail problems... no lotion or > > conditioner needed), it is what our bodies need for fuel ( lots more energy > > now), and it should be the main component to our diets. This is not to say > > FAT is good... but only the RAW FAT is NEEDED... and that is how to get the > > weight under control, and health going in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 At 02:49 PM 10/29/04 -0700, you wrote: >But since Suze is a woman of tremendous abilities and >talents, I'm sure imitating the late Mrs. Childs isn't >a problem. > > Wow, fairly decent job on the suckup there. Actually, I was referring to the accent. Although dropping a chicken once in a while might count too. MFJ I wanna live! I wanna explore the Universe! And I wanna eat pie! ~Urgo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 In a message dated 10/31/04 12:41:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, bberg@... writes: > That said, the Jello analogy really doesn't work for me. And who's ? _____ ~~~~> Sorry, that was an in-comment. She's on another list, and some of us had a joke going on about comparing butt sizes, only she thought her butt was too fat, and then Suze jumped in (on this list, iirc) to say she was trying to make her butt bigger to beat 's, before the WAPF conference, etc, etc. " Jello " and " jelly " are often used to denotechou got somethin ta shake. It's an " urban " thing, dawg. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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