Atomizing is followed by droplet evaporation is elaborated.

[Guest guest]

Summary: The process is more than just atomizing, in that evaporation

then occurs. I was " reading " too technical the scientific definition of

the word 'atomize'. My bad.

Atomize makes droplets. Droplets then evaporate to individual molecules of the

oil.

As Carl asks, what is the molecular formula for the oil, so to calculate the

molecule size.

Or, here is how to do measure it

http://www.worsleyschool.net/science/files/molecular/thickness.html

At 11:58 AM 9/9/2009, xnavyfoxm wrote:

> In regards to that when diffusing the Thieves oil with tested diffusers the

Thieves oil is atomized and aerosolized at 200 to 700 picometers or .0002 to

..0007 microns

Ok, I realize where the confusion is coming from regarding

atomizing/aerosolizing and the size.

The process is actually two steps. The first step is atomizing with an atomizer

of some type.

There are about 5 ways to atomize to small droplet sizes. What atomizer type is

used to get so small?

These droplets then " evaporate " to become gaseous molecules.

It takes a while for this evaporation to occur. After the oil is

atomized, there will be adequate time for the droplet to evaporate.

Evaporation would take between 1 to 5 to 20 minutes, maybe 30-40

depending on average droplet size. It could be faster if the oil

is warmed up first.

Once evaporated, they will be small like burnt sulphur oxide molecules.

200 picometers is the size of an individual, single atom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecule#Molecular_size

One can not atomize this small. This size is called ionized

vapor or plasma. 700 pm I could believe as the oil molecule size.

[Guest guest]

Carl & ,

I will see about finding the chemicl composition of the essential oil blend,

however I am not sure if this would be a technically accurate representation of

the chemical composition of the essential oil blend. I will defer to both of

you as your knowledge in this area is much greater than mine. It would seem to

me that the size disparity is probably much greater in reality than what the

manufacturer specifications state they are.

As to my above statement about the representation of the chemical composition

of the essential oil blend. One there are no synthetic chemicals used during

distillation and if memory servers Young Living uses cold press techniques to

distill the essential oil. Again my knowledge on these aspects is limited and

this would be where my mother would answer best as she is a Registered

Aromatherapist. So if you need me to be more specific in the distillation

process let me know. The objective of the cold press distillation is to

preserve the chemical composition of the plant the oils are extracted from.

Which in the Thieves oil is Clove (Syzygium aromaticum), Lemon (Citrus Limon)

rind, Cinnamon (Cinnamomum verum) bark, Eucalyptus Radiata leaf, Rosemary

(Rosmarinus officinalis) leaf. So as to the chemical makeup of the thieves oil,

again I will attempt to see if there is a definition, however as far as I am

aware even a chemist (though I am stepping outside my area of knowledge once

again *smile*) would be hard pressed to tell you the full chemical makeup of the

extract from the different oils listed above, including the chemical

constituents that makeup the supporting structure for the essential oil itself

as well as how these would interact with each other and the chemical makeup of

that. Again, as said, I defer to those with more knowledge on this subject than

I have. I will state that if 200 picometers is the size of one individual atom

then based on my knowledge of how these essential oils are created this claim

that the diffuser would atomize to the specifications stated seems somewhat

outlandish. I would hazard a guess that the molecular size of the Thieves oil

in its composition would be something like 2-15nm or larger in size, but that's

only a guess.

Also you stated that it would be faster if warmed up, and in response to Carl

about the thermal fogger. It is my understanding that while heating the

essential oil up would potentially make this process faster and smaller, it

would also damage the constituent that help make the oil more effective. I

believe that this would get into a discussion about the differences in the

active ingredient vs. the whole plant. In other words chemist at this point,

again from my understanding, do not pay attention to the constituent in a plant

that make up the structure of the plant. They focus instead on the one aspect

of a plant which is deemed the active ingredient and can therefore be

synthesized and has a fixed chemical composition. If however you take the

entire chemical composition of the plant which would include the constituents,

and as a side note increase the size of the molecules, that would be the

difference between chemicals and essential oils. An example or allusion would be

that it would be like building a bridge over a river, but rather than build the

whole bridge you just built the side of the bridge with the keystone that

supports the path you would walk on to cross the bridge, no while you could walk

on the side and it does span the river it is far less effective then the whole

bridge. However this is a whole other discussion that I would really not be

qualified to get into.

Josh

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> Summary: The process is more than just atomizing, in that evaporation

> then occurs. I was " reading " too technical the scientific definition of

> the word 'atomize'. My bad.

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